Hi.. I just got the new ibook (released in Nov) which has the ATI Radeon
7500 32MB card (12.1" screen). I've seen some posts on this list from
others who haven't been able to get this card to work properly but have
been able to get X to work.. I can't even get to that point
unfortunately.. this is
> You should probably post your config. You want to enable the
> framebuffer, to start with I believe. For the pci bus ID, use lspci
> and then convert from binary to decimal.
>
> e.g.
>
> 00:10.0 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RL
>
> equals 0:16:0
>
I checked using lspci a
Hi.. I'm still trying to get X to work on my ibook (the new one released
in Nov.). I rebooted (after trying to get X to work for a while) and now
the keyboard doesn't work... no response on the screen to any key
presses.. I read the keycodes problem at
http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes a
>
> The keycodes problem causes the wrong keys to appear, not none.
> Have you checked your keyboard cable?
I'm using an ibook so there's no cable right?
nirmal
> > /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz" but that didn't work either.. I
> > haven't upgraded to the benh kernel yet so I'm running Woody as of
> > now.. please let me know if you have any ideas on how to get the
> > keyboard to work...
>
> How do you start X?
>
Well, I can't get to that point actual
>
> Are you talking about the console login prompt or the xdm/gdm login
> box?
The console prompt itself.. since I wasn't able to do anything (since
xdm/gdm was having problems cos of the video card), I used the install
CD, executed a shell from the install program, mounted the Linux
partition on
> The interesting question is if the keyboard works _somewhere_, e.g. in
> MacOS X, OF, ... and whether you're aware of the usual caveats related
> to ADB vs. Linux keycodes.
>
Yes, the keyboard does work in Mac OS X and in Linux too when I finished
the install from the CDs and logged in using t
> You can find it at ppc.bkbits.com
> I used the commands
> #bk clone bk://ppp.bkbits.net/linuxppc_2_4_benh/
> then
> #bk commit
Hi, I'm trying (again) to get debian installed on my ibook3 (Nov 02).. I
installed woody but don't have the bitkeeper program bk. Can someone
tell me how I can downloa
> now, but this was not so until I updated the kernel module radeon.o,
> obtainable by adding
>
> deb http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk/ ./
>
> to sources.list and apt-getting drm-trunk-module-src (use to rebuild
> radeon.o).
Gary.. can you please outline the steps involved in rebuildi
Sandine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:50, Nirmal Govind wrote:
>
> > Gary.. can you please outline the steps involved in rebuilding and
> > updating kernel module radeon.o? Currently, when I start X using
> > "X", it crashes with a blan
Hi.. I had almost everything working fine on my ibook3... X was working
fine and KDE used to startup fine.. then I tried installing pmud and it
kind of screwed up some things I think.. right now, when KDE starts up,
it hangs while trying to "initialize system services". That's the second
flashing i
I forgot to mention.. this hanging occurs only when I startx as myself..
if I try startx as root, everything works just fine..
nirmal
The last time something like that happened to me (on a PC though), it
was my hard disk dieing.. so I'd say at the worst you'd probably have to
get a new hard disk.. and again, this is the worst case scenario..
hopefully it won't be this bad... I'm pretty sure it won't be your
"computer" (i.e. CPU e
Hi.. I get the following two messages when I start kde as a normal user. If i
start KDE as root I do not get these messages. I can't get KDE to work as a
normal user so I'm wondering imf this has something to do with it (from
/var/log/XFree86.0.log):
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved con
> That's related to DRI. That wouldn't have anything to do with starting
> KDE. What happens when you try starting KDE? Are you using a display
> manager (GDM, KDM, WDM, XDM, etc.), or running startx/startkde/etc. at
I don't use a display manager.. I login at the prompt and then use startx..
when
> Is your /tmp directory set with the right permissions? It should be
> owned by root, mode 1777 (a+rwxt). If not, fix it, and try again.
Yes, that looks alright.. I just checked and it's drwxrwxrwt.. when KDE
starts and hangs at the initializing system services point, if I
ctrl-alt-delete and get
Hi.. I finally got things working.. I found that my kde startup script
was redirecting tmp and socket to /dev/null and when I checked the
permissions, /dev/null was not a character device.. so I deleted it and
recreated /dev/null and KDE's up and running again!
Thanks everyone for your help..
nir
Hi.. I have three qns.. I have an ibook3 and I've finally got everything
working almost... a few qns:
1. Is the suspend/standby feature going to be fixed soon? Is there any
workaround to this for the time being?
2. Is there a way in which the trackpad is automatically disabled
if a mouse is detec
> Ben has said that he's working on prying the info out of ATI, but who
> knows who long that'll take...
Great.. thanks for letting me know.. hope they agree soon...
> use something else. I always used XMMS with the xmms-cdread plugin
> installed - it'll read the PCM stream from the disc and play
Hi.. where do I get debs for liba52-0.7.4 and libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13)? I'm trying
to install videolan for playing dvd's and it needs these libs.. I have libc6
but it's not >13.. I searched around but couldn't find >13 debs.. or do I need
to compile it from source?
Thanks,
nirmal
> OTOH, the stock woody version doesn't play encrypted dvd's. If your X
> isn't as squirrelly as mine those lines in your sources.list should
> let you install and compile from the source package and get around
> your versioning problems. (I'm using liba52-0.7.3 on x86 - my
> laptop's at home and
Hi.. how do I disable the trackpad? Any way of setting it so that it
will only be disabled if a mouse is connected/detected??
Thanks,
nirmal
Hi.. I'm trying to login to a remote Sun machine and start off an
application which would start the application's main window on my local
machine. I ssh'd into the machine and started the app but I get an error
saying "Cannot connect to X server" .. I did enable remote hosts using
xhost but no luck
Thanks everyone.. ssh with the -X option works well and I'm able to
start the appln. remotely...
nirmal
Hi... sorry this is off topic but thought the users on this list might
know the best.. how does one take care of the ibook to ensure that it
doesn't get scratched on the outside? I usually carry my laptop around a
lot.. I have the new ibook3 which has sort of a "glass" exterior and I
just noticed t
Thanks folks for the tips.. they were very helpful.
nirmal
Hi.. is there a program in debian that autodetects printers connected to
the network? I plug my ibook into the network at school and there are a
whole bunch of printers on that network which are at various locations
in the building.. in Mandrake, printerdrake used to autodetect all these
printers o
I forgot to add.. autodetection if I'm using Cups for printing... I
noticed printtool but that requires getting rid of Cups I guess...
Thanks,
nirmal
Hi.. I'm trying to apt-get openoffice.org but inspite of having added
the sources mentioned on
http://www.linux-debian.de/openoffice/mirrors.html I get the error
saying that openoffice.org-bin isn't installed. Why is it that this one
is not on the mirror? And what's the right place to get this from
Hi.. does anyone know if the modem that comes with the ibook3 works
under Linux?
Secondly, can someone point me to a howto on using the modem to go
online under Linux? Have only used ethernet to go online till now but
might have to use the modem while traveling..
Thanks,
nirmal
Hi... I have an ibook3 (w/ benh kernel) and the fan in this machine
seems to run quite often and with a pretty loud noise.. and it turns on
even if the machine is idle and if it's not doing any heavy work.. is
there any way to control the behavior of the fan and is this advisable?
I've noticed that
Hi.. I'm trying to get airport to work on my ibook2.. I have the benh kernel and
have airport, orinoco and hermes modules which load fine.. however, after
booting up, if I try "iwconfig eth1", I see that the ESSID is empty and the
card hasn't picked up the wireless network yet.. airport module is s
Thanks Claas... I disabled eth0 and now the wireless network is picked up..
however, when I try to start KDE with startx, it gets to "Initializing System
services" and hangs.. any ideas?
Thanks,
nirmal
Hi.. how do I go about upgrading packages which have dependencies and
which are necessary for other programs.. for e.g. I'm trying to upgrade
my version of gcc from 2.95 to 3.2 but if I download the individual gcc,
g++, g77 etc. packages and try dpkg on them I get lots of unmet
dependencies like bi
Hi.. I'm trying to get LyX (www.lyx.org) working on my ibook with the
benh kernel.. LyX uses Qt as a frontend so I downloaded and compiled qt
3.0.7 with gcc 3.2.1. I then compiled lyx with gcc 3.2.1.. compile goes
fine but when I startup lyx I get the following error:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/lyx-1.
> Why didn't you simply install libqt3-dev?
The LyX developers have it in the INSTALL file that it might be necessary to use
Qt compiled with the same compiler as LyX... so I compiled both of them...
> Indeed, but the undefined symbol smells like Qt to me. Is it picking up
> the libqt.so.3 you b
Hi.. is it possible to play region 2 DVDs (from the UK for instance) on the
ibook under debian?
Thanks,
nirmal
Thanks a lot.. I checked and it was using the wrong libqt.so.3 from the /usr/lib
directory instead of /usr/local/qt/lib.. I guess I have to set the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH? How do I do this for lyx to use the lib in /usr/local/qt/lib
without affecting the path to other libraries? Currenly LD_LIBRARY_PATH
thanks for the suggestions folks.. will try it out once the DVDs
arrive.. wanted to make sure I didn't buy DVDs that won't play.. :-)
nirmal
Thanks for the directions.
> The question remains: why not simply build against libqt3-dev? You
> probably need to get it from sid to build with g++ 3.2 though.
The reason I didn't do that was cos the LyX developers mention somewhere
in the docs that qt *may* need to be compiled with the same com
How do I view my linux partition from OS X? There's a utility called
explore2fs with which I used to be able to copy my linux files into
windows while I was booted up in Windows.. is there a similar utility
for OS X that lets one copy files from the linux partition?
Thanks,
nirmal
I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 3.1 using the following deb address:
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1/Debian stable main
But I can't seem to get apt-get to install kde using "apt-get install
kde".. what's the right way to do this?
Thanks,
nirmal
I just upgraded to testing from woody and there seems to be some
problem.. my computer (ibook2) just suspends (screen switches off) if
there is no activity for a couple of minutes.. I haven't setup pmud..
and I can't get it to come back up without rebooting the machine using
Ctrl-Command-Rebootbutt
Thanks for the tip John.. I finally managed to install kde3 but I must
say that it took me quite a few tries before I got it right..
nirmal
I'm trying to setup tetex again after I upgraded to testing from woody..
but there seems to be some problem with teh install... below are the
messages I get.. please let me know what I need to do..thanks.. nirmal
Selecting previously deselected package tetex-base.
(Reading database ... 77870 files
>
> kpsewhich is in tetex-bin, I'd start by filing a bug against that
> package.
I downloaded the 2.0.1-2 versions from the pool and all tetex packages
installed fine..
Thanks,
nirmal
I was trying to burn some audio files onto a CD-R from my hard disk using
xcdroast. The speed it was showing was around 4X while the writer is supposed
to write onto CD-R's at 16X and CD-RW's at 8X.. is this a limitation of the
xcdroast or is there some other setting I need to tweak beside setting
I was trying to burn some audio files onto a CD-R from my hard disk
using
xcdroast. The speed it was showing was around 4X while the writer is
supposed
to write onto CD-R's at 16X and CD-RW's at 8X.. is this a limitation of
the
xcdroast or is there some other setting I need to tweak beside setting
Hi.. I read on a couple of websites that some people were able to get
their suspend to work on ibook2... if you've been able to do this, can
you please report what version of dri-trunk, pmud etc. you're using...
Thanks,
nirmal
Hi.. I just tried upgrading the kernel on my ibook2 from 2.4.20-ben1 to ben8 (so
that I could get suspend working).. looks like I have a whole bunch of other
problems to solve now:
1. The keyboard mapping has all gone bad again.. I remember I had this problem
when I first installed Debian onto my
Hi.. I finally managed to upgrade my kernel properly..
So suspend works great on teh console.. while booted up in X, when it comes back
from suspend, the screen is all dark with some colors etc... I switched to a
console and back and the screen returned to normal.. think somene else also
reported
>
> Make sure /dev/apm_bios exist and APM emulation is compiled in your
> kernel. Tha way, X will suspend itself properly.
>
Thanks a lot Ben.. I compiled APM emulation and now it works great! well.. with
a slight quirk reported by some others.. when it comes back from suspend in X,
there's a sc
Hi.. I upgraded to unstable.. I'm now having trouble starting up opera..
I'm using opera shared QT version 6.12.. this is the error I get when
I try to start it up:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/lib/opera/6.12-20030305.2/opera
/usr/lib/opera/6.12-20030305.2/opera: relocation error:
/usr/lib/opera/6.12
Hi.. I'm trying to get the modem working on my ibook2.. I got the modem
detection utility from Marc Boucher's website and that says that there's no
Connexant modem. I have the USB modem module acm and I also modprobe'd
macserial.. am I missing something? Is there some documentation on the
procedure
Hi.. is there a pdf viewer for powerpc that shows the hyperlinks, contents
menu etc. in the document? gv, xpdf and kghostview don't seem to be able to
handle this.. and acroread isn't available for ppc.. any others?
Thanks,
nirmal
> qemu works with acrobat reader 5 here quite nicely. you just need to
> supplement the X libs a bit.
Can you elaborate a little on this? I have qemu installed but it gives an
error when I try to start Acrobat 5:
Error loading /usr/local/bin/acroread
The log file is empty..
I do have the binf
Hi.. I'm having trouble with the trackpad in the ibook 2.. it's very jumpy so
I can't seem to control it well.. and it also seems extra sensitive unlike
most other trackpads I've used.. is this something to do with the driver or
so? I'm running a benh kernel downloaded a couple of months back..
Yes, that's true.. it works OK on OS X.. and "inaccurate" is exactly the word I
was looking for.. :-) Wonder if there's any solution to this?
Thanks,
nirmal
On Sat, 10 May 2003 11:50:48 +0100, John Leach wrote:
> The trackpad on my own 15" PowerBook G4 seems to be rather jumpy.
> Describing it
Hi.. I'm trying to donwgrade my OS X from 10.2.* to 10.1.* (since I only have
the latter CD on me right now) so that I can change my Mac partition from UFS
to HFS+ in order to run maconlinux.. however the install hangs with a smiley
face and a spinning disc every time no matter how I try to start t
Hi.. I just reinstalled OS X on my Mac partition and now when I boot I get a
question mark for a second and then it shows me the screen where I need to
hit x for OS X or l for booting Debian... my original bootstrap partition was
on hda9 and Mac OSX on hda12, Debian on hda14... now it seems like
Thanks for the info on xset David.. I'll give it a try..
Jule - the problem you mention is something that bothers me too.. before you
know it. you're typing somewhere else in the document! I wonder if there's
some option to disable the trackpad if an external mouse is detected... I
almost alway
> but only because it's the first partition with a bootable file. When
> you re-run ybin, it will become re-blessed and be found more quickly.
Thanks Chris.. I ran mkofboot by itself and all's well now... thanks a lot..
Finally setup maconlinux and it works great!
nirmal
Don't you also need to get the dri-trunk modules of Daenzer? (I had to when I
installed it but don't know if the newer benh kernels need this or not.)
Please check one of the installation websites.. just search on google for
"install debian ibook" and you should be able to get to those..
nirma
Hi.. is there a free program for backing up specific folders on the hard disk
onto a CD or external hard disk? I mean something that doesn't overwrite files
that haven't changed etc. and only makes the necessary
addition/deletion/replacement... would be even better if there was something
that creat
Thanks for all the suggestions folks.. I quickly checked out all of them.. the
problem I have is that the directory I want to backup is around 1.5GB or so and
currently I use tar and then gzip to compress it into a single file which just
manages to fit on a 700MB CD. rsync doesn't seem to be able t
Hi.. I have the ibook2 and benh kernel 2.4.20-ben10 .. when I put the ibook to
sleep by closing the lid, the display and the backlight go off, then come on
again and then go off.. is this the same behavior in the latest kernel too?
Please cc me on the reply..
thanks,
nirmal
Thanks for the files Michel.. I saved them in the appropriate folders, changed
permissions to 755, stopped the pmud daemon and restarted it. Still have the
same behavior where the display goes off, then on and then off (and to
sleep).. am I missing some step or do I have to reboot or so?
Thank
Hi Ben,
I read a post of yours on debian-powerpc which said that the devel kernel tree
had the Ardis HFS+ support. I just rsync'd the devel tree and in the help for
the HFS+ support, it says that full read support exists. Ardis HFS+ is
supposed to have write support too, is the Help missing thi
> What tree did you rsync exactly ? Just checking the Configure.help entry,
> it seems it's the old one and wasn't updated.
Hi Ben,
I rsync'd the rsync.penguinppc.org::benh-devel kernel.. so it's just the help
file that's old and write support exists then?
thanks,
nirmal
>
> Yes. I'll fix that
>
Great! Thanks Ben..
nirmal
> Does /etc/init.d/pmud-utils status work? (is pmud-utils installed?)
Yes, that was the problem, didn't have pmud-utils.. so I got it to work in
2.4.20-ben10.. I then upgraded to Ben's current benh-devel kernel
(21-rc3-ben0) and now if I close the lid, the display goes off just once but
when it
Hi.. I have a USB pen drive and I used to mount this using mount -t vfat
/dev/sda1 /mnt/USBPen. However, I recently got a digital camera and setup the
usbdevfs in /etc/fstab. Now, when I plug in the USB Pen drive, it gets
recognized as a device in /proc/bus/usb/002. How do I get my machine to no
Hi.. does anyone know how I can connect my ibook running Debian PPC to a PC
running Windows XP so that I can transfer files between the two? Is there a
USB cable that can do this? Does the twisted ethernet cable work between a
Mac and a PC? Any help would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks,
nirmal
> run a ssh-server on the debian box (it should be running per default -
> check with: ps ax |grep sshd)
I have the sshd server running..
> get a ssh client for the windoze box (i use pscp - search using google)
> start the client an the windoze box and transfer your files
I connected the two
Hi.. is there some sort of a GUI that shows the available wireless networks
in the area? Reason I ask is I have a few networks at my workplace and they
have varying signal strengths.. so I need to often switch my wireless ESSID
based on where I am and how strong each signal is.. any tool that c
Hi.. I'm experiencing a weird problem.. usually when I close the lid of my
ibook (w/ benh10 kernel and the power management enabled in the kernel), the
computer goes into standby.. and when I open the lid, it comes back up..
sometimes (and I can't seem to identify a pattern) after the ibook is c
> I'm afraid there may be a problem with the PMU. I had similar symptoms
> on the previous PowerBook before I had to send it in to get the PMU
That doesn't sound good.. thanks for the info.. will google and see if there's
any way that it can be taken care of w/o sending it back to Apple..
nirmal
Hi.. my system just hung while I was typing a message in knode.. The relevant
messages from syslog seem to be the following:
Sep 7 10:09:28 ibook kernel: SysRq : HELP : loglevel0-8 reBoot tErm kIl
l saK showMem showPc unRaw Sync showTasks Unmount
Sep 7 10:09:31 ibook kernel: SysRq : Emergency S
Hi.. I'm using an Apple Airport card on my ibook (800Mhz, Nov 2002).. I have a
Netgear router at home that is connected to a cable modem.. I'm having a
weird problem where the signal strength randomly goes down to 0% from around
40%... the only solution I've been able to find is this - if I clos
Thanks for your reply Ben..
> I don't know if the signal stenght can be trusted in OS X :)
I see...
> is interpreted as a "low" signal. I think OS X will easily put 4 bars even
> with a rather weak signal
That's interesting.. I'll check on the Apple message boards and see if anyone
knows of a
> The problem is we don't really know what value returned by the card's
> firmware is 100 % ;)
Very tricky situation huh..
> or maybe you just use a tool to measure network speed at certain
> positions (in the worst case just copy some file over the network)
Yes, I can certainly find the averag
This is probably the most bizzarre computer thing I've seen.. turns out that
the signal strength is a function of the angle (wrt the keyboard) at which
the lid of the ibook is placed.. If I open the lid all the way, to the
maximum possible angle, the signal strength goes all the way to 0. If I b
Hi.. I tried hooking up the ibook to a projector yesterday using the external
display cable that comes with the ibook.. All I got was a white screen.. the
projector seems to have recognized the input from the computer as it said
"RGB 640x480 Computer Input".. but just a white screen. Does anyone
> If you are interested (of course it's true for everyone interested), I
> can send you, as examples, two XF86Config-4 : one for xinerama, and one
> for mirroring in 1024x768x16bits
Hi Eric.. yes, I'm very much interested.. can you please send them over? Also,
how does one use xinerama? And secon
Hi.. I've started experiencing a weird problem with the Combo drive in my
ibook.. for some reason, it keeps getting ejected.. I think the Shift key
triggered it but once it starts, an eject "process" seems to be constantly
running (I can see this with top, the PID keeps changing every second or
Does this persist over a reboot? If not, maybe the key that initiates
the eject (using something like acme, ikeyd, ... ?) was 'stuck', either
physically or due to the infamous kernel bug, and kept autorepeating?
Well, I did reboot but it came back.. none of the keys were stuck.. what
I noti
Sorry if this is a repost.. I sent this yesterday but it hasn't shown up
on the archive yet..
Does this persist over a reboot? If not, maybe the key that initiates
the eject (using something like acme, ikeyd, ... ?) was 'stuck', either
physically or due to the infamous kernel bug, and kept auto
Hi.. I've noticed that the XFree86 process on my ibook is taking up a
decent chunk of memory and some CPU and this seems to be slowing down my
machine a bit .. when I do 'top', XFree86 is a process that's constantly
at the top of the list.. the process itself, when I do a ps shows up as:
/usr/
Michel Dänzer wrote:
X server memory consumption is a FAQ and has recently been discussed
here, but the X server should normally never hog the CPU (and it doesn't
here) unless there are clients flooding it with requests. If there are
no suspect clients, does the CPU hogging prevail over an X s
Another related qn.. the memory usage statistic using top doesn't show
memory freeing up after I close some heavy duty programs like Openoffice
and mozilla that I had running.. so in effect, the memory usage grows
till almost 100% of the memory is used up but it never comes back down..
so I s
Don't look at memory usage of X, it is normal that top or ps report
very high amounts ; X does not really use this memory. Search google
for "XFree86 3dfx map memory", I think you will find the explanation.
Great.. I'll do that.. thanks..
nirmal
Vincent Bernat wrote:
If you have bought 640 MB of RAM, I suppose you want them to be used,
this ies exactly what Linux does. Unused memory is used for caching
purposes.
So I presume that memory is reallocated if I want to start up an app
even though the utilization is 100%.. somehow it j
This is not due to free memory, but to the way the scheduler works. This
probably seems related to free memory, as the more processes, the less
memory ;-)
Kernel 2.6 has a much nicer scheduler. (too bad, sleep still has
problems - at least for me).
Where do I get the source for the benh 2.6 kern
Hi. I'm trying to compile the 2.6-test6 kernel that I got from
rsync.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de::linux-2.5-benh/ .. I'm getting the
following error when I do a make (after make xconfig).
Thanks,
nirmal
In file included from include/linux/gfp.h:4,
from include/linux/slab.h:1
The copy at rsync.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de misses at least numa.h
Try 'source.mvista.com::linuxppc-2.5-benh' instead.
Uwe
Thanks Uwe.. I read on this list that the copy at the mvista mirror was
test2 .. has this been updated yet?
nirmal
Thanks...
I downloaded from mvista and tried compiling. Compile fails at the
following point:
CC drivers/net/pcnet32.o
drivers/net/pcnet32.c: In function `pcnet32_probe1':
drivers/net/pcnet32.c:1777: error: initializer element is not constant
drivers/net/pcnet32.c:1778: error: initialize
Known bug. Simply a forgotten closing } in an if clause in pcnet32_probe1.
See if you can spot it in the source, or look up a patch on linuxppc-dev.
Aah.. thanks for the tip.. figured out the missing } .. and the compile
continues.. :-)
Thanks,
nirmal
Hi.. I got a kernel error while I was backing up some files onto an
external USB hard disk.. I was able to recover by hitting x.. here's the
message from syslog.. any ideas on why this happened? I'm using benh-10...
Thanks,
nirmal
--
Nov 4 21:16:31 ibook kernel: Assertion failure in do_get_wr
Hi Greg.. I checked my linux setting with iptables -L and here's what I get:
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source destination
Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source destination
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt sourc
Sorry folks.. please ignore the earlier message.. it went to the wrong
list by accident..
nirmal
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