got quik set up on my PowerMac 7500 with a JFS root filesystem and
an ext2 /boot, and it works just fine. I didn't install it just recently
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Will i have to reinstall my Debian ?
No.
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machine is not an early iBook or G3 blue&white tower), select the
cute penguin, and boot into Linux, then rerun ybin?
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t one 9600 model that had
dual processors from the factory, so MP-safety most certainly is an
issue. Besides, he said he was testing it on an SMP box anyway - it'd
be hard to get a SWIM3 floppy controller on a NewWorld, since the core
chipsets in the NewWorlds don't have 'em.
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on my PowerBook and G3 B&W.
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y sure.
> (From what I can tell, the B&W G3 is exceptionally problematic for
> running Debian. Lucky me. Good thing it was cheap.)
Strangely I've run Debian on mine since I got it, and I've run Debian on a
G3 previously, and it's never given me any trouble.
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n 'netstat -lnp --unix' (as root), you should see the path to
mysqld.sock, or mysql.sock, or similar in the list, assuming mysqld is
running and has set up the UNIX domain socket (which it should by default).
Maybe it's using /etc/mysql/my.cnf from your old install, and it contains
a path to
nd reinstall the
kernel-image package (so that the initrd gets rebuilt), it should work.
It's not a foolproof answer, and it could be easier, but it can be made
to work; I was fortunately able to make use of it, so my Powerbook was
still useful while I waited for a new internal drive.
nd reinstall the
kernel-image package (so that the initrd gets rebuilt), it should work.
It's not a foolproof answer, and it could be easier, but it can be made
to work; I was fortunately able to make use of it, so my Powerbook was
still useful while I waited for a new internal drive
orld systems, have a chip known as "planb" that's
used for video input, and the traditional AWACS chip/driver is used for
audio input. Take a look and see if the distribution you're using
includes a kernel module called "planb", or if you build your own
kernel, enabl
( the root folder? ) on this system is:
Oh... you didn't install it the "proper" way. If it's in the FS root, try:
boot hd:,\yaboot
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exist. You should do 'boot hd:,\\yaboot' instead. Not specifying a
partition number will cause it to search for a volume with a filesystem
it knows, and \\ tells it "look in the blessed directory" - which trust
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ill fail trying to execute
illegal instructions.
I ran into that on my Pismo (not a G4, mind you) with an earlier
version, but to my knowledge IBM fixed that issue. I've run jBuilder on
top of it (with a couple class packs stolen from a Sun 1.4.2 JDK for
x86), and it works as fine as Ja
grade, but they seem to be having problems with the company they're
contracting with - I've been waiting for 2 months. Once they get that
straightened out though, I'm looking forward to having a 900 MHz Pismo -
with CPU frequency scaling, no less, and a 1 MB on-die L2 cache. Yummy.
Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
dmesg -n1 is doing the job. But isn't it possible to put that option
to an initscript other than rcboot.local? man syslogd doesn`t show
an equal solution.
man klogd
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u'd rather run a BSD, www.netbsd.org might be more
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t-based OS selector, similar to the graphical boot selector
you get by holding the Option key at boot.
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those and see how they work for you.
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SCSI controllers that Darwin/i386 actually can use? :) Its
hardware support on i386 is horribly anemic; and the hardware it _does_
use, it uses obscure features of, making virtualization solutions like
VMware not work. Though Darwin/i386 does run (though slowly) under qemu...
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u rerun 'ybin' after making the change?
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it probably won't be easy either. I'll answer what questions I can if
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ou really want to just use the ramdisk.
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ages in particular,
since the division of X into packages has changed substantially between
woody and sarge), so even if you just ask for that one package, you'll
probably have to install a signficant number of other packages. In that
case, you might check www.apt-get.org, or just consid
as simply comparing that to the reasons why Ethan
made such strict policies on how yaboot should be used, because of all
the bogus problem reports and "make it work!" e-mails I'm sure he's
received in the past.
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partition, OR ELSE" and other such stern warnings.
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ReiserFS to anybody - mostly because I've known too many people who've
used it (not specifically on PPC, just in general) and had entire
filesystems eaten because of it. It frankly amazes me when people
recommend it, so I try to warn off anyone who asks about it. :)
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, but I'll have to hand copy it - figured I'd find out first if
it was a known problem or not. This system runs 2.6 kernels that I build
just fie, but they have the CMD64x module built into the kernel instead
of loading a module for it.
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modes - it assumes 15bpp, and throws the colors way
out of whack.
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e you didn't do something like that? Maybe try
adding 'devfs=nomount' to the kernel command line when you're booting to
see if that's it.
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openfirmware boot prompt, does somebody
knows the syntax to boot Sarge installer cdrom from openfirmware ?
You should be able to type:
boot cd:,\\:tbxi
and that should get you going. If not, try:
boot cd:,\\yaboot
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appear. Click the icon for the OS you want to boot, then click the
right-arrow button to proceed.
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ough the source
before I finally figured out the switch I had to pass to get the help
text so that I could change settings without changing the source.
It is a pretty neat bit of hacking, though, and I appreciate the work
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lock (0,0)
You _can not_ mount by label from the kernel. You have to use an initrd
to do that. I'm guessing you have your own local-built kernel with no
initrd. Sorry, but that just won't work without an initrd...
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he if (beep->buf == NULL) check,
and now I can play audio and an attempted terminal beep won't stall out
audio playback in progress, and the beep returns normally after playback
stops. Other than that, it's nice to have a working terminal beep again.
Thanks for the patch.
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fused afterward - apparently due to both drives trying to respond to
commands. I'd say make sure that, if the drive is on the same ATA bus,
to make sure that it's set as slave. If you don't know what cable select
is for, you should NEVER NEVER NEVER use it!
Just thought my experience mi
rently the author has never heard of big-endian systems). If you
want my patches, let me know.
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have you got? If it's not a system where the display is built into the
logic board/not replaceable, have you upgraded the video card, and if
so, what kind of video card do you have?
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. I've had it resize ext2 and
ext3 filesystems before, so I'm quite sure about that.
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messed up in images? (they turn
yellow/green) I've _only_ noticed this on PowerPC systems, never on an
x86. I don't know if it's a PowerPC or big-endian bug in the image
handling library, and it seems to happen quite irregularly.
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e DOM
Inspector package installed along with it, if that matters.)
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Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
Thanks for the tip. I couldn't find mol-drivers-macosx though:
Do you have 'non-free' in your sources.list along with 'main'? You have
to have it, because the MacOS X support code contains a modified BootX
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o 2 GB in size. Of course, I
think that means you can't have yaboot on a DVD with ISO9660 and HFS,
but I'm expecting scripts aren't yet available to make the CD using HFS+.
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RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
Yes, this is the eth1394 driver at work.
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reversed. If you find a patch that fixes this, send it to the
maintainer.
Actually, the "heuristic" for IDE disks is to load every IDE controller
driver it knows, and then load the 'ide-detect' module. For SCSI
controllers it's a bit more discerning, but not for IDE.
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I've installed using the LordSutch mini-ISO images (that's what those
are), and I never had a problem. How exactly did you make the bootstrap
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under the BSD license, but was
relicensed from the BSD license to Apple's APSL license (which is
considerably more restrictive).
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articular error, but the command you're issuing
shouldn't work anyway (so it's not surprising that it doesn't).
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not that 'netiquette assumes (properly, in this case) that the list is
English speaking - that's just the way it is.
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ackage, it
should install a version of the 'wish' interpreter that should work for you.
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s attached. It makes USB, Ethernet, FireWire, audio, DRI and
everything else on the system function. The system in question is
running 2.6.5 (vanilla, from kernel.org), and works just fine.
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ard, not a
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many to choose from..."
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er runlevels on Debian (that's 2, 3, 4 and 5). Only Red
Hat (and SuSE, and Mandrake, and other RH-derived distros) follow in
that tradition - and that's because they actually run the display
manager through an inittab entry.
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what Ben was
talking about re: reiserfs (even on x86), so I haven't used it. The only
unfortunate thing is that I haven't seen a Debian install disc that
includes JFS utilities. I had to use FireWire target disk mode with my
x86 system, back up, repartition, and restore, but I'm quite
release the keys. It should boot normally.
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ird... I know ext3 support is built in (I was using ext3
until just recently, then I switched to JFS). How much memory do you
have in your system? Are you sure you don't have "funky" memory? Or some
otherwise faulty hardware? Other than the CPU speed, your system should
be
have an AirPort card in mine, along with the built-in 10/100 Ethernet,
and everything works fine (except for the obvious ones - IrDA and DRI).
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build them statically into the kernel, so it'll
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Pismo. 2.6.4 sleeps and wakes up perfectly.
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Debian
Well, the problem is that your 'yaboot' is named 'yaboot.txt'. However,
you should specify an absolute path, like 'boot hd:3,\yaboot.txt'. Try
that and see if it works (it should).
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rtitions, you
can triple boot (I've done it before, on a G3 tower and an older round
iBook). However, having OS 9 and OS X on a single partition _will not_
work without booting into whichever is blessed and using the Startup
Disk control panel to bless the appropriate system folder.
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the colors end up way out of whack in X under MOL in 16bpp mode.
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so, in the future, you
should mention which PowerBook G3 you have - there are actually 5 of
them, and they're all fairly different - some are OldWorld, some are
NewWorld, some have USB, some have ADB, some have SCSI, one has FireWire...)
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re, to fix
my mistake.
I'm not saying that multiple partitions is a bad thing, but stuffing a
whole bunch of subtrees on one filesystem right away, as I said before,
is silly, and I really think you shouldn't do it. (Yes, I will continue
to offer this advice. Thanks. Feel free to ignore me.)
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y - that would be
bad).
P.S. Are there any good reasons for choosing ext2 filesystems over ext3,
or vice versa?
Go with ext3. If the system crashes, or whatever, you don't have to sit
and wait while fsck runs on the filesystem.
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- Erm, can't follow: What software am I supposed to use?!?
Um, xmms with the xmms-cdread package should work fine. I've used it on
my Pismo, and a round iBook I had previously, and it always worked fine.
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he digital audio off the CD, and plays it back the
conventional way.
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see what network devices the system knows. If there's
still no Ethernet device, you may need to build your own kernel with the
SunGEM driver either built in, or as a module.
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'boot
/AAPL,ROM', which will load the Mac ROM, which will load miBoot from the
floppy (may need to hold F after pressing Enter at the OF prompt).
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disabled'. If it says 'Direct rendering enabled', then the problem is
something in the client side, and you should see what 'glxinfo' says.
and thus I do not have the DRI working and no 3d accel:-(
See above. Those messages aren't relevant.
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an OF 2.x system can look at /proc/device-tree/packages/
and see if they have an 'elf-loader' package and prove me wrong, but
this was my understanding.
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recent system, they just segfault on
> startup...
Not true. I have a couple of those games, and they run just fine on my
Pismo (running Debian sid). You might need the patches, but you can
still download them.
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Powerbook Pismo, and they're working great with the
gnome-themes-extra package (which includes several SVG themes). If
anyone wants to try them, add the following to your sources.list:
deb http://platinum.heliacal.net/~demon/gnome2.4-ppc/ ./
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tion was to stop
portmap, and make /etc/init.d/portmap not executable, to keep it from
starting at all. Apparently it's actually a FAM bug, and supposedly
rebuilding it will produce a version that will work better.
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d drivers for them. 'apt-cache show discover' will give you more
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ver? I've fought with the dmasound driver in the kernel before,
so if I could use the ALSA driver instead, and still be able to suspend
my laptop, I'd definitely prefer that.
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ces?
> 5--How do I know that I need i2c-keywest?
For a Pismo, you don't. It's needed for PowerBook G4s and iBooks with
DACA, Tumbler/Texas, and Snapper audio chips, where the mixer control is
done via an I2C bus.
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to make a couple hacks to the source to get it to build clean
though, and the SWIM3 floppy controller driver doesn't presently build
right (it prevents a successful build). I'm rather surprised that I had
to tweak the source, especially at this late stage, to get it to build
successfully.
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nt for
the DACA mixer-control code when I wrote that stuff. (Frankly, I was so
happy to have mixer control at the time, balance control didn't really
cross my mind.) I'm guessing no one's played with it since then.
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river for that one. Use the 'fbdev' driver and don't specify a
BusID at all. (Run 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86' if you used
debconf to configure your XF86Config-4, as I'm guessing you did.)
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in",
you should be able to add a printer. How is the printer in question
attached to your computer? Serial port, USB, network?
>I know a hard way of printing again, that is re-installing the whole
> system. Frankly, I'm trying to avoid that.
Not a solution. Though it sounds like you're missing something.
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p a tty to the modem port.
The 7300 can be configured to use the system console for OpenFirmware,
according to http://www.penguinppc.org/projects/quik/quirks.shtml -
however the 7200 can't (because apparently OpenFirmware doesn't know how
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You probably need to build and install the modules for ALSA, and make
sure that the appropriate driver (snd-powermac, I think?) is loaded.
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boot cd:,\\:tbxi
>
> but it can't found the device!?!?
>
> What's wrong?
Is the CD-ROM in your master on the secondary IDE channel? If not, the
'cd' devalias in OF will not work. You'll have to navigate the OF device
tree manually. 'dev / ls' will get you started there.
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xactly the
same as the x86 counterparts, other than an OF ROM.
> If it's some other PPC machine, don't know..
If it also has an OpenFirmware implementation, odds are it'll just work.
If not, then probably no.
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OSX. Will yaboot only boot OSX using the two stage boot process?
Yes, because the Forth bootscript that ybin generates and blesses is
what puts up the multiboot menu - yaboot itself just loads Linux
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etZ/lunN/generic, if you're using devfs),
and make sure that the user you're ripping as has permission to to read
and write to that device. (Ripping with SCSI drives is done by issuing
raw SCSI commands - you're using IDE-SCSI, so same thing applies.)
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Cort is going on, and linuxppc_2_4_benh is Ben's tree (where the really
experimental stuff is). The rsync is just a regular snapshot of the
BitKeeper tree.
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y barely knows Linux at all - getting a distro like Debian on a
well-supported NewWorld can be occasionally trying. Installing it on a
NuBus system can be a bear. (Besides the fact that the kernel is at best
sporadically maintained for them.)
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ort.
> > If I reboot I'm dead in the water right?
> > I don't have the MACOS installation disks
He needs to stop what he's doing, go get a Mac System 7.5/7.6 or System
8 CD, reinstall a small MacOS partition, then install Linux from there.
If he continues on as he's going, he'll have a perfectly good Linux
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commercial software (which I'm not sure is even available anymore -
probably not), you certainly can't do TCP/IP via PhoneNet. Get a
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ounting an HFS+ filesystem made by MacOS will always show what you
described, because MacOS makes a thin HFS wrapper around the HFS+
filesystem, for the sake of older MacOS versions. You can use the
'hfsplus' package to read and write HFS+ filesystems completely in
userspace (not transparent
.apt-get.org/) would provide that. Don't expect big things
from it though - you're probably not going to get huge performance gains
with, say, QuakeII. But if lspci, or the board itself, says the card is
just a Mach64, don't bother, you're not going to get any 3D
acceleration, because it's not in the hardware.
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