Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Colin Walters
[ I'm on the list, so no need to CC: me posts ] Wilhelm *rafial* Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So far, so good. Closing it makes it sleep. [...] > > > >Does anyone know if there is support for this for the tibook? > > This works fine on my TiBook as long as I am in X when I put

Re: anyone used freely available MacOS 7.5?

2001-04-19 Thread Charles Sebold
On 26 Nisan 5761, Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: >> Comments, anyone? how bad is 7.5.5? > > 7.5.5 was okay. Don't go near any of the earlier 7.5's with a ten > foot pole. 7.6, and especially 7.6.1 were really good... I wouldn't go that far. 7.5.3 (r2 for PCI Power Macs) was really good. 7.5.5

Re: anyone used freely available MacOS 7.5?

2001-04-19 Thread Chris Tillman
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:15:41PM -0700, Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: >> > Comments, anyone? how bad is 7.5.5? >From further down on the page where you linked is the bad news: --- Note that self-mounting Disk Images require Mac OS version 7.0.1 or later. If you are using a version of Mac OS

Re: anyone used freely available MacOS 7.5?

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:15:41PM -0700, Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Comments, anyone? how bad is 7.5.5? > > 7.5.5 was okay. Don't go near any of the earlier 7.5's with a ten foot > pole. 7.6, and especially 7.6.1 were really good... They have it set up as 7.5.3 is available for download

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:44:24PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > To have a central macos image, you just need to mmap( ..., MAP_PRIVATE, ), > > so your changes are made copy-on-write. (You might want to do this within > > the program instead of leaving it to the kernel, so you could write change

Re: anyone used freely available MacOS 7.5?

2001-04-19 Thread Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
> Comments, anyone? how bad is 7.5.5? 7.5.5 was okay. Don't go near any of the earlier 7.5's with a ten foot pole. 7.6, and especially 7.6.1 were really good... -raf

BenH kernel weirdness

2001-04-19 Thread Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
I compiled and updated to yesterdays BenH 2.3.4pre3 from an older BenH 2.3.3, because Ben had alluded to adding some basic power management stuff for the TiBooks. I have to say that the new kernel seems to run significantly cooler than the old one (I 'book was getting hot enough that I started to

anyone used freely available MacOS 7.5?

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Cordes
Someone told me that an old version of MacOS, 7.5, is available for free from Apple: http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11258. This is interesting for me because I bought my computer with MacOS on it, but I don't have a way to reinstall MacOS, so I'm afraid of screwing it up if I br

Re: .sit files

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:31:08PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:51:17AM -0500, W. Crowshaw wrote: > > Actually, it doesn't hurt anything if the MacOS HFS FS is mounted on the > > kernel > > and hmount'ed with hfsutils. I access the HFS FS both mounted and hmounted > > al

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:35:53PM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:56:46AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > (though vmware has an interesting > > system where the disk image is no larger then the ammount of data it > > holds, it grows as you add data, until you hit the precon

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:56:46AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > (though vmware has an interesting > system where the disk image is no larger then the ammount of data it > holds, it grows as you add data, until you hit the preconfigured > limit). Can't you achieve the same result fairly easily

Re: Mac disk partitioning (was: Floppy-less booting)

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:58:59PM -0700, Tovar wrote: > > Drive Setup is a very weak program, that AFAIK allows only integral > numbers > > of M to be typed in. > > thats why you should NOT use drive setup to create linux partitions. > please read and follow: > > http://www.

Re: .sit files

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:51:17AM -0500, W. Crowshaw wrote: > Actually, it doesn't hurt anything if the MacOS HFS FS is mounted on the > kernel > and hmount'ed with hfsutils. I access the HFS FS both mounted and hmounted > all the time. then you have been lucky. the kernel will NOT be aware of

Re: MOL .debs (was: Power Management et. al.)

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:07:16AM +0200, Michel Lanners wrote: > On 18 Apr, this message from Ethan Benson echoed through cyberspace: > > i was going to look at this again to see what i could come up with. > > one really tricky problem is it seems you often MUST recompile the mol > > modules agai

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Lanners
On 19 Apr, this message from Michael Schmitz echoed through cyberspace: >> Most problematic seem >> to be the hdparm stuff. I've had my kernel complain a few times about >> DMA IRQ timeout, resting IDE buses, and some such, when I experimented >> with sleep. > > Did it stay hung forever, or did o

Fwd: Part 7: Innovation in Device Driver Development

2001-04-19 Thread Mike Fedyk
It looks like we'll be getting more drivers faster :) Hopefully, they won't have to sign NDAs or release binary-only drivers. Mike - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Linux and Windows 2000 Interop, Part 7: Innovation in Device Driver Development By Robert Williams Device driv

Mac disk partitioning (was: Floppy-less booting)

2001-04-19 Thread Tovar
> Drive Setup is a very weak program, that AFAIK allows only integral numbers > of M to be typed in. thats why you should NOT use drive setup to create linux partitions. please read and follow: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt you need to create o

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > closing my cover, and sometimes the throbbing led comes on after about > > 10-15 seconds; other times it seems to never come on. It also seems > > to take a long time (30secs-1m) to wake up after making it sleep this > > way. > > The problem here is, I think, f**k'ed up scripts to pmud. Look i

Re: .sit files

2001-04-19 Thread W. Crowshaw
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:02:48AM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:55:26AM -0400, Michael D. Crawford wrote: > > It is a Mac OS application, and therefore has a filetype, > > creator code, and resource fork. While you might be able to extract the > > bitstreams of all thes

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Lanners
On 18 Apr, this message from Benjamin Herrenschmidt echoed through cyberspace: >>So far, so good. Closing it makes it sleep. Now, here's my question: Is > there >>a way to make it >>a) wake up on a LAN connection and/or >>b) wake up at a certain time, thus still allow it to execute cron jobs for

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Lanners
On 19 Apr, this message from Colin Walters echoed through cyberspace: >> So far, so good. Closing it makes it sleep. [...] > > Does anyone know if there is support for this for the tibook? I tried > closing my cover, and sometimes the throbbing led comes on after about > 10-15 seconds; other ti

Re: MOL .debs (was: Power Management et. al.)

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Lanners
On 18 Apr, this message from Ethan Benson echoed through cyberspace: > i was going to look at this again to see what i could come up with. > one really tricky problem is it seems you often MUST recompile the mol > modules against the exact kernel source of the running kernel. > otherwise they don'

Re: problem booting hard disk after floppy/NFS install on a 7200/90

2001-04-19 Thread Landry BRUNEL
I tryed this before your mail as the ultimate solution, and now it's OK. Thank you for yuor help, Landry. Philipp Kaeser wrote: > > [landry's request didn't go to the list, so if anyone > else has a good clue what to do with that troublesome > Mac, please let him know [and not *me*, thnx :) ]

OpenOffice/LinuxPPC

2001-04-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hi there, I've built the latest OpenOffice snapshot (625) for Linux/PPC platforms. The packages can be downloaded at http://philikon.de/files/oo_linuxppc Cheers, Phil. P.S.: Please CC responses to me as I am not a subscriber to all lists -- Philipp von Weitershausen [ *pronounce: "fun

Re: problem booting hard disk after floppy/NFS install on a 7200/90

2001-04-19 Thread Philipp Kaeser
[landry's request didn't go to the list, so if anyone else has a good clue what to do with that troublesome Mac, please let him know [and not *me*, thnx :) ] > Thanks for the info. > After many tests with the tricky OF, I think I had lost the mac, no > prompt and no boot at all, the screen goes of

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Ethan Benson writes: > someone made an ITP for mol several monthes ago, but i don't think > anything ever came of it.. That's because shortly after said ITP I upgraded to MacOS 9.1, which completely hosed mol on my system. The whole thing only became stable again about two weeks ago, and I

Re: Trouble booting Debian on Firewire iBook

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:28:43AM -0500, Brian Dunnette wrote: > Okay, fixed the partition type, then ran 'ybin -C /target/etc/yaboot.conf -m > /target/etc/ofboot.b', which returned several 'yaboot.conf: line too long' > (or > something like that) errors; then, when I try to do the 'boot hd:9'

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:09:27PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > MOL emulates a virtual machine. So MacOS code cannot access anything > outside of this emulated environement. The only security risk I can > see is around the fake "drivers" used to communicate between MOL and > MacOS. I d

Re: .sit files

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:02:48AM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > > Agreed! They should use macbinary, or gzipped macbinary (since most people > have an extractor capable of handling gzip). there is only two files for bootx that even require macbinary, the extention and the application. document

Re: dhclient

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > I just connected my Pismo to my new employer's network. They have DHCP so I > just started dhclient. The program told me that CONFIG_PACKET and > CONFIG_FILTER is not set. It *is* set though. Then I had a closer look at it > and saw that there is dhclient-2.0.x a

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> >hehehe, well what got me thinking, is mol runs with root privileges >full time. and macos has no security whatsoever.. so does this mean >that an errant MacOS app can screw with things on the linux side that >would ordinarily be privileged? i would guess not, but its fun to >think about. >

dhclient

2001-04-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hi there, I just connected my Pismo to my new employer's network. They have DHCP so I just started dhclient. The program told me that CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER is not set. It *is* set though. Then I had a closer look at it and saw that there is dhclient-2.0.x and dhclient-2.2.x. The dhclien

Re: g77 issues

2001-04-19 Thread Dave Love
Please read the g77 manual and its references about floating point and IEEE arithmetic conformance. It even had physicist input -- computational scientists need to understand the issues. Please don't follow up to all these lists. I doubt debian-sparc, where I'm reading it, cares.

[OT] Disclosure

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
Someone here recently asked what Ethan was doing for a living (seeing as he usually replies within minutes at any time of the day) and he didn't want to tell. But I found out: http://bensonsworld.co.uk . Ethan, be grateful for the money you got from me! And please stop that rental pricing bullsh

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Andre Berger
* Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2001-04-19 09:51 +0200: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:48:01AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [...] > my idea is to take the module sources from mol and put them in thier > own package, say mol-modules-src or something. this package should > depend on kernel-heade

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:19:40PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > In the 0.9.57 announcement they talk about less dependency on the kernel - > wonder if that will help for these issues? They say 'it might be necessary to > recompile MOL from the source in certain cases' for 2.4 kernels... intere

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
Ethan Benson wrote: > i was going to look at this again to see what i could come up with. > one really tricky problem is it seems you often MUST recompile the mol > modules against the exact kernel source of the running kernel. > otherwise they don't work. > > on my system when i upgraded to 2.2.

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:08:08PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Cool, thanks. But looking at sysctl.conf(5) I think it should be > dev.mac_hid.*, shouldn't it? it seems to work either way. i have slashes instead of dots in mine and it seems happy. > Dunno why I though /etc/sysctl.conf was

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:33:19AM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > > > I have this in a startup script to get the middle button on F11 and the > > > right one on F12 : > > > > > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation > > > echo 87 > /proc/sys/dev/

Re: g77 issues

2001-04-19 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:50:34AM +0100, Nick Bailey wrote: > Ionut Georgescu wrote: > > > PS command line: g77 -g -pg -o programm *.f > > PPS gcc -v: > > Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-linux/2.95.3/specs > > gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (Debian release) > > I'm interested... I

Sample XF86Config-4 ?

2001-04-19 Thread Craige McWhirter
If anyone is running XFree86 4 one the Beige G3's in anything >256 colour and >= 1024x768 would you be able to drop me a copy of your XF86config-4 file? I'll be buggered if I can get any decent colour / res combo that makes it useable. Ta. -- Cheers, Craige.

Re: g77 issues

2001-04-19 Thread Nick Bailey
Ionut Georgescu wrote: > PS command line: g77 -g -pg -o programm *.f > PPS gcc -v: > Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-linux/2.95.3/specs > gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (Debian release) I'm interested... I don't know enough FORTRAN to test this out, but I have been seeing Scilab (w

Re: .sit files

2001-04-19 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > Seriously: I've never had any luck with unsit or macunpack or the like. > > .sit files are essentially useless on the Linux side. > > > > Then why does bootx come packaged on the 2.2r2 CD as a .sit file? I'm Maybe because BootX is a MacOS application, and it is generally assumed that if you u

g77 issues

2001-04-19 Thread Ionut Georgescu
The purpose is to compute the following expression: enfer= 1.3058750148074976d0 entmp = 0.093822912209640966d0 enpct = -2.2021424321973448d0 tfermi = 1.0d0/(dexp((enpct-enfer)/entmp)+1.0d0) The problem is the following. With a small test programm, the result is a

Re: Trouble booting Debian on Firewire iBook

2001-04-19 Thread Brian Dunnette
Okay, fixed the partition type, then ran 'ybin -C /target/etc/yaboot.conf -m /target/etc/ofboot.b', which returned several 'yaboot.conf: line too long' (or something like that) errors; then, when I try to do the 'boot hd:9' bit, I get: parsing DEFAULT CATCH!, code=70 at %SRR0: ff80b648 %SRR1

Re: Trouble booting Debian on Firewire iBook

2001-04-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:57:02AM -0500, Brian Dunnette wrote: > Well, now I get: > > MAC-PARTS: specified partition is not valid can't open hd:9,\\:tbxi > ok > > Any ideas? > > (tried running ybin -b /dev/hda9, still didn't work...) sounds to me like you mixed up type with name when creating

Re: Trouble booting Debian on Firewire iBook

2001-04-19 Thread Brian Dunnette
Well, now I get: MAC-PARTS: specified partition is not valid can't open hd:9,\\:tbxi ok Any ideas? (tried running ybin -b /dev/hda9, still didn't work...) Thanks, Brian Dunnette On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 06:03:24AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 07:13:44PM -0500, Brian Dunn

Re: Airport quality levels?

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:26:11AM +0200, Michel Lanners wrote: > Something that should be avoided: hanging the base staion onto a > vertical surface with Apple's bracket. This reduced receive level by 10 > dB for me! > > I suppose the problem lies in the polarization of the electromagnetic > wave

Re: Airport quality levels?

2001-04-19 Thread Michel Lanners
Hi all, On 18 Apr, this message from Michel Dänzer echoed through cyberspace: > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"public" Nickname:"HERMES I" > Frequency:2.442GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed > Access Point: 00:40:96:38:53:3C > Bit Rate:11Mb/s RTS thr:off Fra

Re: .sit files

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:55:26AM -0400, Michael D. Crawford wrote: > It's not just that you _should_ unpack BootX on the Mac side, it's that > you have to. No you don't. When I bought my Mac second hand, it had a _minimal_ install of MacOS 9 on it. When I say minimal, I mean no web browser, n

Re: Power Management et. al.

2001-04-19 Thread Wilhelm *rafial* Fitzpatrick
> So far, so good. Closing it makes it sleep. [...] Does anyone know if there is support for this for the tibook? This works fine on my TiBook as long as I am in X when I put it to sleep. Sleep on the TiBook was failing in console a while back, I don't know if BenH has fixed it yet. Anyway