you'll
out-insult me." Scott Legrand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "You
may be wrong here, little one." Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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--
egrep patterns are full regular expressions; it uses a fast
deterministic algorithm that sometimes needs exponential space. Unix
manuals
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y is documentation any
different?
Frankly, I am puzzled: so far, every example you have given
immediately brings to mind an almost exact equivalent from the
program code side of software; and you do not seem to have made your
case that software is indeed different.
manoj
--
Wh
discussion. Is it too much to ask?
Oh, the irony. You want to be respected by tohse you call
zealots and bigots?
manoj
--
lisp, v.: To call a spade a thpade.
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oftware serves all
these purposes?
manoj
--
"If you want to know what happens to you when you die, go look at some
dead stuff." Dave Enyeart
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:53:01 +0200, Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Quoting Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Not at all. I don't care being wrong. I just request being
>> > respected within a serious discussion. Is it too much to as
erful power you have developed - and
terrified at the thought that so much hideous and bad music may be put
on record forever." Arthur Sullivan, on seeing a demonstration of
Edison's new talking machine in 1888
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t least consider ethically acceptable, I would very much
like to discuss that with members of the FSF that approach the
discussion in a spirit of good will.
manoj
--
Wisdom is knowing what to do with what you know. Winter Smith
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s too important not to ship. Not
shipping such non free code would be a major disservice to our users,
and would lose Debian important market share, and we can't possibly
let scruples stand in the way of market share, can we?
manoj
--
We have nowhere else to go... this is all we h
the code is not free, then we do have a problem to resolve.
>> and would lose Debian important market share, and we can't possibly
>> let scruples stand in the way of market share, can we?
> I couldn't care less about market share. I do care about the social
> contract, though, which says 'Our priorities are our users and free
> software'.
And you think our users are best served by non-free software?
manoj
--
RADIO SHACK LEVEL II BASIC READY _
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t like to see
tarnished for the merely sake of meeting a release date.
manoj
--
Most people can't understand how others can blow their noses
differently than they do. Turgenev
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:16:18 +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030908 20:05]:
>> I think you are mixing up "archived copy of old releases" and
>> "releasing". Releasing a copy of Debian is an act t
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:17:07 +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Op ma 08-09-2003, om 18:42 schreef Manoj Srivastava:
>> > Since our users and the DFSG are equally important, one should
>> > not try to solve one of those problems *at the cost* of the
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:35:12 +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Op wo 10-09-2003, om 03:27 schreef Manoj Srivastava:
>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:17:07 +0200, Wouter Verhelst
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> > Op ma 08-09-2003, om 18:42 s
mailing list? I would stipulate gladly to
follow a condition that no Debian legal denizen post about this on a
Gnu mailing list.
manoj
--
Despite the best efforts of a quantum bigfoot drive (yes I know
everyone told me they suck, now I know they were right) 2.1.109ac1 is
now availabl
some
people -- let all other mail be redirected to debian-legal, much like
debian-devel-announce replies end up in debian-devel.
manoj
--
Today is what happened to yesterday.
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As have I, but I have had to resort to using non free tools on
a non free OS to do so. Are you aware of free software that would
allow me to directly edit PDF files? If not, then Florian may have a
point.
manoj
--
May all your PUSHes be POPped.
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:04:43 +0100, Stephen Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>
>> As have I, but I have had to resort to using non free tools on a
>> non free OS to do so. Are you aware of free soft
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:40:43 -0400, David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:25:03 -0500
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Are you being sarcastic, pointing out the vagueness of the terms?
>> > Many people edit PDFs d
ocess of expanding the
document.
Please visit
http://people.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml>
Any comments, feedback, suggested wording, and proof reading
appreciated.
manoj
--
All of a sudden, I want to THROW OVER my promising ACTING CAREER, gro
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:35:46 -0400, David B Harris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:37:37 + (UTC)
> Dylan Thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(I seem to have overlooked this message initially)
>> On 2003-09-27, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:32:20 -0500, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:37:37 + (UTC)
>> Dylan Thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure going point-by-point through the text of the license
>>> i
bit-flipping for debugging Hey! did you leave the
args alone? Hey! did you leave those bits alone? (Chorus) (Chorus)
"Another Glitch in the Call", a la Pink Floyd
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to complain about, as a matter of
> revenge/symmetry.
Heaven forbid that all our packges should ever be DFSG free.
> Please please please, let's let sleeping dogs lie and not go on a
> snippet purge. And let's not overinterpret the debian-legal mandate
> into t
e you are arguing quite passionately to let
non free bits remain in Debian, hidden away, in as many as 10% of our
packages (your figures)
manoj
--
A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature
replaces it with. Tennessee Williams
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hardware, or, perhaps, wetware.
manoj
--
Steinbach's Guideline for Systems Programming: Never test for an error
condition you don't know how to handle.
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nd 'manojish' appear in the same... uh... tag doesn't mean I
> consider Manoj evil :-)
Darn. I thought I had an evil twin.
manoj
--
"The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that Dan
Quayle may or may not make." --Vice President Dan
our feet, nod your head, or in
any way keep time to the music in a tavern, restaurant, or cafe.
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ves you, Jim! It's
only two days, and you'll see. Great Danes are no problem! "The
Rockford Files"
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; We could fork this into a discussion of re-building all packages
> uploaded (ala source only uploads) which neatly sidesteps the entire
> ``intent of buildable with tools in main'' issue entirely.
That is a different thread altogether.
manoj
--
"I am ... a woman ... and ... technically a parasitic uterine growth"
Sean Doran the Younger
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:22:29 +1000, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 06:02:40PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> The former is fine, this merely reinstates the former release
>> policy. But wilfully distributing software that violates
Hi,
Raul miller posted this mail on debian-private, with an
explicit permission to quote it elsewhere. I am doing so now.
manoj
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 05:24:15PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Can you refute the hard facts found on
> http://people.debi
7;s and 1's ?
Again, if debconf is not related to debian, than none of this
applies, and in that case, can we take this off a mailing list for
Debian development?
manoj
--
We're living in a golden age. All you need is gold. D.W. Robertson.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAI
dent entity, not related to
Debian, then I have no opinion, apart from isn't this off-topic here
on this mailing list?
manoj
--
The truth about a man lies first and foremost in what he hides. Andre
Malraux
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ent, smacks so much of
hypocrisy to be unpersuasive. But that is just my opinion.
manoj
--
You have the power to influence all with whom you come in contact.
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:36:36 +1000, Anthony Towns
said:
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 05:28:04PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:30:52 -0600 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:46:24 +1000, Anthony Towns
>> > said:
>> >
convinced I was mistaken in assuming that we
label non-free software "clearly". So, I, for one, am reexamining my
previous support for keeping non-free on Debian machines. Perhaps it
is coming to the time where the question should again be open for
discussion.
manoj
--
Where
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:13:51 +1000, Anthony Towns
said:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 10:21:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> But instead, what I'm led to wonder is if this is really standing up
> for our beliefs and fighting the good fight, or actually just trying
> to a
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:32:50 +1000, Anthony Towns
said:
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 11:24:04PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >> Several distros include non-free software, as long as it's
>> >> distributable.
>> > Debian's one of them -- we jus
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:21:46 +0100, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Case in point: Thanks to Colin Walter's liberal licensing of his
>> Debian packaging talk, I was able to give my lo
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:52:05 +0100, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Can you explain exactly how a CC copyleft-like license would have
>> > been an obstacle?
>> Because it is being inc
In case this is not already clear, I too agree with the
decision to allow the authors the choice of _any_ DFSG free license.
manoj
--
Death: to stop sinning suddenly.
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ery least, there are varying interpretations, and pretending there
are not does not help your thesis any.
manoj
--
Men who cherish for women the highest respect are seldom popular with
them. Joseph Addison
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our view.
manoj
--
I cannot believe that God plays dice with the cosmos. Albert Einstein,
on the randomness of quantum mechanics
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useful
to me is one of the prime reasons I like free software -- if stuff is
useful, I can share.
Of course, in this case, GFDL would prohibit sharing
information. And people call that free?
manoj
--
Learning French is trivial: the word for horse is cheval, and
everythi
On 13 Feb 2006, Craig Sanders outgrape:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 10:44:51PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> What if he wants to further distribute the stuff to other people
>> who are using a device like his? I mean, sharing stuff useful to me
>> is one of the prim
t of contributors and preparing an explanatory e-mail and license
> change notice for the website?
The copyright assignment does not sound sane, no.
manoj
--
Don't feed the bats tonight.
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"Best" practices are subjective. I am sure people who write
dev ref feel those are best practices, I just happen to
differ. Substituting my biases for the current authors biases is
unlikely to improve matters for the majority of developers.
manoj
--
Let me take you a butt
Hi guys,
[I am not subscribed to the list, and would appreciate a CC:]
Can I get some comments on Bug#159114? Are the patents
mentioned in the bug report software patents? Are software patents
legal in .nl?
manoj
--
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
Manoj Srivastava
deathbed]
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filed his income tax return last year, he declared half of his salary
as 'unearned income.' Michael Lara
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are the most valuable that set our thinking
faculties in the fullest operation. -- Colton
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it comes to the
documentation.
manoj
--
The way these things go, there are probably 6 or 8 kludgey ways to do
it, and a better way that involves rethinking something that hasn't
been rethunk yet. Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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on to separate out Software,
> Data, and Documentation.
> i am afraid i have no such definition to offer.
My feeling is that there may not be any such clear cut
distinction.
manoj
--
Old age is always fifteen years old than I am. Baruch
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 21:50:13 -0700, John H Robinson, IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:38:43 -0700, John H Robinson, IV
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> > as a mostly passive observer at this point, th
response not merely on our past
experience, but on a reasonable projection of where the future is
going to take us. (I personally believe that the distinction between
data, source, and documentation is artificial, and merely a matter of
convention, and the boundaries shall blur even more in the fu
a documentation.
What do you do if the same collection of bits performs each of
these functions?
manoj
--
Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 03:35:02 +0900 (IRKST), Fedor Zuev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
JG> Documentation consists of instructions primarily intended to be
JG> human-readable regarding the operation of something such as a
JG> prog
f distribution not
being modified.
Though I fail to see the distinction between code, data, and
documentation; I see no such ambiguity when it comes to
distinguishing the license from any of those.
manoj
--
Lax behaviour, broken observances and dubious chastity - these are of
he one taht is the
documentation, as well as the data for the trading service).
MS> I am not talking about bundles -- I am talking about a the same
MS> bits.
manoj
--
! A good move !! An excellent move !!! An I.A. Horowitz move E.C.O.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTE
lways
ahead, thinking always of trying to do more, brings a state of mind in
which nothing is impossible. The moment one gets into the "expert"
state of mind a great number of things become impossible. From Henry
Ford Sr., "My Life and Work"
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
y the debian patch.
Not if the orig.tar.gz is to live in main. And if the
orig.tar.gz is not in main, none of the binaries derived from it can
be in main.
manoj
--
Arnold's Addendum: Anything not fitting into these categories causes
cancer in rats.
Manoj Srivastava <[
on being one, where if the
documentation can be separated from the code; the other is the case
of hte xml file that serves, in turn as documentation, data, and
code)
manoj
wondering if his mail is making it out of his machine
--
Decaffeinated coffee? Just Say No.
Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:33:37 -0400 (EDT), Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:14:45 -0400 (EDT), Walter Landry
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> > The .orig.tar.gz files only h
at God is
cheating us in a stupid way." Nienhuys
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these buttons in their
toolbar, they are faced with a dozen splash screens when they start
their session.
This sounds like a significant reduction in freedom.
manoj
--
Be consistent. Larry Wall in the perl man page
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