On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 00:19:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 10:39:33PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 11:10:19PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> > Please, guys. He isn't saying he has final say in whether or not
>> > the Sun RPC code is DFSG-free; he's just saying it shouldn't hold
>> > up the release.
>>
>> When did we decide that release dates were more important than the
>> DFSG?
> We didn't. At least not officially. But to 'some' of us, it does
> matter.
>> /sarcastic>
> In any case, the solution is easy (as I said in my mail, in the part
> you conveniently snipped away): stop the bickering, get your hands
> out of their sleeves, and write that RPC code. Free of bugs, and
> standards-compliant, mind you.
In other words, it is OK to ship non-free code in main, as
long as there is no free implementation. If you want Dewbian to stop
shjipping non-free code, then you better write the free
implementation -- not just any free implementation, mind you -- Free
of bugs, and standards-compliant, too.
Do you really think this is the stance of the project?
> If you're not willing to do that, then I suggest you shut the fuck
> up.
Right, how dare you imply that we care about shipping only
free code in main. We are all about expedience, not about freedom.
Dear me. I must have been mistaken all along.
> We can't ship without RPC in glibc (that would be a severe
> disservice to our users, as it would break NFS, parts of Gnome (FAM,
> for instance, on which parts of Gnome depend, uses RPC), and most
> likely some other major parts of our distribution as well; and per
> the Social Contract, our users and the DFSG are equally important),
> and the code is (at least) not GPL-incompatible (you should read the
> first paragraph after section 2c of the GPL if you disagree).
Indeed. Some non free code is too important not to ship. Not
shipping such non free code would be a major disservice to our users,
and would lose Debian important market share, and we can't possibly
let scruples stand in the way of market share, can we?
manoj
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