[snip]
> There's lots that's "icky". Don't pay too much attention to IBM's
> claim of Linux support: they do, but it does not seem to be as much
> applicable to their laptop division. Last I checked there were
> probably 2-3 postings in the support base (but this has been about 2
> months ago, so
[snip]
> There's lots that's "icky". Don't pay too much attention to IBM's
> claim of Linux support: they do, but it does not seem to be as much
> applicable to their laptop division. Last I checked there were
> probably 2-3 postings in the support base (but this has been about 2
> months ago, s
On 25 Sep 2000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> I think we're talking about different things. I was talking about
> making the kernel very aware of the whole hibernation thing and
> tidying up everything in VM before actually going into
> hibernation. This, however, would most likely mean that
On 25 Sep 2000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> I think we're talking about different things. I was talking about
> making the kernel very aware of the whole hibernation thing and
> tidying up everything in VM before actually going into
> hibernation. This, however, would most likely mean tha
On a somewhat related note, after reading this thread (in which the tpctl
package was mentioned), I decided to recompile my kernel yesterday, including
the tpctl-source package. So, I did so with kernel-package, along with the
kernel-source, pcmcia-source, and alsa-source. (I have a TP390X).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Whoa! You won't be able to use the swap partition for this purpose!
> Consider: You are running lots of apps (and hence using lots of
> memory and swap-space), you tell the machine to hibernate and it
> saves it's memory contents _over_the_top_of_the_swap_space_! This
On a somewhat related note, after reading this thread (in which the tpctl package was
mentioned), I decided to recompile my kernel yesterday, including the tpctl-source
package. So, I did so with kernel-package, along with the kernel-source,
pcmcia-source, and alsa-source. (I have a TP390X).
>I see. Thanks for explaining, John. I think it would be possible, in
>most cases, to use the swap partition to save the state for hibernate,
>though. What do you think? Does the APM code in the kernel rely on the
>APM BIOS to do the actual writing of the RAM image? If it does,
>wouldn't it be poss
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:11:28PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Ferlito) writes:
>
> > Hibernate is suually different to suspend. In suspend there is
> > usuallay still stuuf in RAM being kept there by the battery. Easy
> > test put the laptop into suspend pull out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Ferlito) writes:
> Hibernate is suually different to suspend. In suspend there is
> usuallay still stuuf in RAM being kept there by the battery. Easy
> test put the laptop into suspend pull out the battery wait a bit put
> it back. If it still works then you're in hib
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:46:27PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Gregory) writes:
> >
> > > On my thinkpad (755CSE), all I had to do to get hibernation working
> > > was create a DOS partition and use IBM's utility (PS2.EXE, I think)
> >
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (CaT) writes:
> I believe hibernation is where it dumps the system state to disc and
> turns the laptop off, so you can later turn it on and restart it.
>
> VERY useful as you can imagine. :)
That seems like the "suspend mode" I was talking about. It seems to
swap out all runin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Gregory) writes:
>
> > On my thinkpad (755CSE), all I had to do to get hibernation working
> > was create a DOS partition and use IBM's utility (PS2.EXE, I think)
> > to create a hibernation file in the DOS partition.
>
> Really? I guess I'm no
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:40:23PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It seems that "standby mode" is a battery savings mode, but keeps most
> of the box running. "Suspend mode", on the other hand, stops the
> CPU. When I restart from suspend mode, I can continue where I left
> off. All processes ar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Gregory) writes:
> On my thinkpad (755CSE), all I had to do to get hibernation working
> was create a DOS partition and use IBM's utility (PS2.EXE, I think)
> to create a hibernation file in the DOS partition.
Really? I guess I'm not that up to date with terminology here.
Another gripe about the TP 570, btw: I didn't get the Linux
framebuffer code to work on its Neomagic chip. X, in a recent version
of XFree86, works fine, though. Mostly, I run SVGATextMode, however,
which works fine.
When I'm stationary, I attach a terminal (a DEC VT420) to it, since I
didn't get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (CaT) writes:
> So... my quesiton is, how well are they supported under
> debian/linux? Is ibm's linux support more then just hot air? Will I
> be able to do the funky things like hibernation and stuff under
> them? And so on... basically, is there anything icky about trying to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Whoa! You won't be able to use the swap partition for this purpose!
> Consider: You are running lots of apps (and hence using lots of
> memory and swap-space), you tell the machine to hibernate and it
> saves it's memory contents _over_the_top_of_the_swap_space_! Thi
>I see. Thanks for explaining, John. I think it would be possible, in
>most cases, to use the swap partition to save the state for hibernate,
>though. What do you think? Does the APM code in the kernel rely on the
>APM BIOS to do the actual writing of the RAM image? If it does,
>wouldn't it be pos
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:11:28PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Ferlito) writes:
>
> > Hibernate is suually different to suspend. In suspend there is
> > usuallay still stuuf in RAM being kept there by the battery. Easy
> > test put the laptop into suspend pull ou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Ferlito) writes:
> Hibernate is suually different to suspend. In suspend there is
> usuallay still stuuf in RAM being kept there by the battery. Easy
> test put the laptop into suspend pull out the battery wait a bit put
> it back. If it still works then you're in hi
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:46:27PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Gregory) writes:
> >
> > > On my thinkpad (755CSE), all I had to do to get hibernation working
> > > was create a DOS partition and use IBM's utility (PS2.EXE, I think)
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (CaT) writes:
> I believe hibernation is where it dumps the system state to disc and
> turns the laptop off, so you can later turn it on and restart it.
>
> VERY useful as you can imagine. :)
That seems like the "suspend mode" I was talking about. It seems to
swap out all runi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Gregory) writes:
>
> > On my thinkpad (755CSE), all I had to do to get hibernation working
> > was create a DOS partition and use IBM's utility (PS2.EXE, I think)
> > to create a hibernation file in the DOS partition.
>
> Really? I guess I'm n
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:40:23PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It seems that "standby mode" is a battery savings mode, but keeps most
> of the box running. "Suspend mode", on the other hand, stops the
> CPU. When I restart from suspend mode, I can continue where I left
> off. All processes a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Gregory) writes:
> On my thinkpad (755CSE), all I had to do to get hibernation working
> was create a DOS partition and use IBM's utility (PS2.EXE, I think)
> to create a hibernation file in the DOS partition.
Really? I guess I'm not that up to date with terminology here.
Another gripe about the TP 570, btw: I didn't get the Linux
framebuffer code to work on its Neomagic chip. X, in a recent version
of XFree86, works fine, though. Mostly, I run SVGATextMode, however,
which works fine.
When I'm stationary, I attach a terminal (a DEC VT420) to it, since I
didn't get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (CaT) writes:
> So... my quesiton is, how well are they supported under
> debian/linux? Is ibm's linux support more then just hot air? Will I
> be able to do the funky things like hibernation and stuff under
> them? And so on... basically, is there anything icky about trying to
I currently have it going on a Satellite Pro 4300, works great. X was
using the FBDev until I found a "beta" S3 Savage driver for it through
the folks at xfree86.org. The sound works well, though it's not up to
desktop standards, it works. Infared I think would work if I had
anything to use it
I currently have it going on a Satellite Pro 4300, works great. X was
using the FBDev until I found a "beta" S3 Savage driver for it through
the folks at xfree86.org. The sound works well, though it's not up to
desktop standards, it works. Infared I think would work if I had
anything to use i
On 23 Sep 2000, Ries van Twisk wrote:
> I run a Satellite 2100CDS
> No infrared but I did manage to get USB running and used a webcam.
> I'm not sure if the modem is working.
> Also X works fast (currently using staroffice) one down side is when I
> move a window mij screen start to flikker a bit.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 09:53:43PM -0700, Andrei Popov wrote:
> As far as specifics go, yes, you will be able to suspend (but I don't
> think hybernate, i.e. save your work into a hybernation file, then
> recover). All of your devices will work. You can run X in
> accelerated mode on Thinkpads; i
On 23 Sep 2000, Ries van Twisk wrote:
> I run a Satellite 2100CDS
> No infrared but I did manage to get USB running and used a webcam.
> I'm not sure if the modem is working.
> Also X works fast (currently using staroffice) one down side is when I
> move a window mij screen start to flikker a bit
> am stuck between an ibm thinkpad and a toshiba satelite (pro).
> The first due to their publicised linux support and the 2nd
> cos it seems to be well recommended by friends. Both of them
I bought a used Dell, but what I did was make sure it had plug in hard
drives so I can experiment without l
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 09:53:43PM -0700, Andrei Popov wrote:
> As far as specifics go, yes, you will be able to suspend (but I don't
> think hybernate, i.e. save your work into a hybernation file, then
> recover). All of your devices will work. You can run X in
> accelerated mode on Thinkpads;
> am stuck between an ibm thinkpad and a toshiba satelite (pro).
> The first due to their publicised linux support and the 2nd
> cos it seems to be well recommended by friends. Both of them
I bought a used Dell, but what I did was make sure it had plug in hard
drives so I can experiment without
I run a Satellite 2100CDS
No infrared but I did manage to get USB running and used a webcam.
I'm not sure if the modem is working.
Also X works fast (currently using staroffice) one down side is when I
move a window mij screen start to flikker a bit.. It's just there but I
don't mind. It does not
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 02:38:44PM +1100, CaT wrote:
> Hey folks. I'm thinking of getting one of them laptop thingies
> and running debian on it. After a wee bit of looking about I
> am stuck between an ibm thinkpad and a toshiba satelite (pro).
> The first due to their publicised linux support and
--- CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> am stuck between an ibm thinkpad and a toshiba satelite (pro).
> The first due to their publicised linux support and the 2nd
> cos it seems to be well recommended by friends. Both of them
I'd highly recommend thinkpad: it's the best laptop I ever had (right
no
I run a Satellite 2100CDS
No infrared but I did manage to get USB running and used a webcam.
I'm not sure if the modem is working.
Also X works fast (currently using staroffice) one down side is when I
move a window mij screen start to flikker a bit.. It's just there but I
don't mind. It does no
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 02:38:44PM +1100, CaT wrote:
> Hey folks. I'm thinking of getting one of them laptop thingies
> and running debian on it. After a wee bit of looking about I
> am stuck between an ibm thinkpad and a toshiba satelite (pro).
> The first due to their publicised linux support an
Hey folks. I'm thinking of getting one of them laptop thingies
and running debian on it. After a wee bit of looking about I
am stuck between an ibm thinkpad and a toshiba satelite (pro).
The first due to their publicised linux support and the 2nd
cos it seems to be well recommended by friends. Both
--- CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> am stuck between an ibm thinkpad and a toshiba satelite (pro).
> The first due to their publicised linux support and the 2nd
> cos it seems to be well recommended by friends. Both of them
I'd highly recommend thinkpad: it's the best laptop I ever had (right
n
Hey folks. I'm thinking of getting one of them laptop thingies
and running debian on it. After a wee bit of looking about I
am stuck between an ibm thinkpad and a toshiba satelite (pro).
The first due to their publicised linux support and the 2nd
cos it seems to be well recommended by friends. Bot
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