>I see. Thanks for explaining, John. I think it would be possible, in >most cases, to use the swap partition to save the state for hibernate, >though. What do you think? Does the APM code in the kernel rely on the >APM BIOS to do the actual writing of the RAM image? If it does, >wouldn't it be possible to fool it and make do without any FAT >partitions? Whoa! You won't be able to use the swap partition for this purpose! Consider: You are running lots of apps (and hence using lots of memory and swap-space), you tell the machine to hibernate and it saves it's memory contents _over_the_top_of_the_swap_space_! This, as you can imagine, will cause all sorts of bad things to happen when you resume... As for the requiring of FAT partitions, I can't comment as for Thinkpads, but I have a Libretto 50 and a Vaio C1XE, and both of these have no need for a FAT partition for the hibernation features: The Libretto `hides' part of the disk at the end, so reserving it for the hibernation, and the Vaio needs you to run a utility called `phdisk.exe' (dos app, there is a Linux one which someone has written called `lphdisk' - check Freshmeat.net) to create _either_ a hibernation file on a FAT partition, or a hibernation partition. Both of these work under Linux after having been created, but the partition is usually a better option for Linux as it avoids the need to have a nasty FAT partition laying around (why would you want one anyway? ;-) Also, in both these cases (Lib, Vaio) the BIOS does the writing of the RAM image. The Lib even hibernates automagically when the battery gets _really_ low, whereas the Vaio just carries on until it turns off... *grrr* Hope this helps a bit Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]