Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-28 Thread Nick Leverton
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 08:51:23PM +0200, Theo Schmidt wrote: > Do these problems also apply to Thunderbird, do you think, Nick? I have > just switched to this even though I prefer kmail to Thunderbird, because > I don't trust kmail any more for the mbox format and am not yet ready to > switch

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Rigo Wenning
Am Wednesday 28 September 2005 18:59 verlautbarte Reinhold Kainhofer : > He? MBox is just the text of all messages concatenated together. Are > you sure that other MUAs store the message status in there? Unless > I'm mistaken, the mbox format doesn't support this. Common, there are all sorts of X

Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 28 September 2005 20:51, Theo Schmidt wrote: > Nick Leverton schrieb: > >>Valid info > >>should be written back to the maildir and KMail should not complain > >>when opening a maildir touched by another agent. > > > > You could open a bugz

Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-28 Thread Theo Schmidt
Nick Leverton schrieb: Valid info should be written back to the maildir and KMail should not complain when opening a maildir touched by another agent. You could open a bugzilla change request and get us all to vote for it ! It's the major reason why I don't use kmail, even though I love the re

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Derek Broughton
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > On Wednesday 28 September 2005 18:31, Nick Leverton wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:26:29PM +0200, Rigo Wenning wrote: >> > Thanks a lot, will do too, >> > >> > but it remains that I need allies in convincing KMail developers to use >> > their index only for cachin

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Pete Jewell
Derek Broughton wrote: > Pete Jewell wrote: > > >>However, ReiserFS is *much* more efficient when you have thousands of >>files in one directory, because it uses a hashing algorithm to determine >>where the required file is (or starts) in the filesystem. This is >>something I know about (hashing

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 28 September 2005 18:59, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > On Wednesday 28 September 2005 18:31, Nick Leverton wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:26:29PM +0200, Rigo Wenning wrote: > > > Thanks a lot, will do too, > > > > > > but it remains t

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 28 September 2005 18:31, Nick Leverton wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:26:29PM +0200, Rigo Wenning wrote: > > Thanks a lot, will do too, > > > > but it remains that I need allies in convincing KMail developers to use > > their index on

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Nick Leverton
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:26:29PM +0200, Rigo Wenning wrote: > Thanks a lot, will do too, > > but it remains that I need allies in convincing KMail developers to use > their index only for caching and not for valid information. Valid info > should be written back to the maildir and KMail shoul

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Rigo Wenning
Thanks a lot, will do too, but it remains that I need allies in convincing KMail developers to use their index only for caching and not for valid information. Valid info should be written back to the maildir and KMail should not complain when opening a maildir touched by another agent. Best,

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread David Martínez Moreno
El Miércoles, 28 de Septiembre de 2005 15:24, Rigo Wenning escribió: > I complained about this a long time ago to KMail developers. KMail does > not store the metadata (Flags and the like) back into the file, but > only in the index files. (For some performance reason, but Mutt is > faster and does

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Rigo Wenning
I complained about this a long time ago to KMail developers. KMail does not store the metadata (Flags and the like) back into the file, but only in the index files. (For some performance reason, but Mutt is faster and does it) Now once touched with Mutt, Mutt writes back the metadata into the m

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-28 Thread Derek Broughton
Pete Jewell wrote: > However, ReiserFS is *much* more efficient when you have thousands of > files in one directory, because it uses a hashing algorithm to determine > where the required file is (or starts) in the filesystem. This is > something I know about (hashing) based on my experience with

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread Pete Jewell
Randy Kramer wrote: > On Tuesday 27 September 2005 01:44 pm, Pete Jewell wrote: > >>However, ReiserFS is *much* more efficient when you have thousands of >>files in one directory, because it uses a hashing algorithm to determine >>where the required file is (or starts) in the filesystem. This is

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread Randy Kramer
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 01:44 pm, Pete Jewell wrote: > However, ReiserFS is *much* more efficient when you have thousands of > files in one directory, because it uses a hashing algorithm to determine > where the required file is (or starts) in the filesystem. This is > something I know about

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread Pete Jewell
Derek Broughton wrote: > Randy Kramer wrote: > > >>On Tuesday 27 September 2005 09:27 am, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>>Why do you think Maildir would perform worse for folders with thousands >>>of >>>emails? Everything I've read suggests it will perform better - and more >>>reliably. >> >>First

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
André Wöbbeking wrote: > On Tuesday 27 September 2005 15:27, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Randy Kramer wrote: >> > I suppose maildir will be OK (and maybe even better) for my inbox, >> > which I generally keep "trimmed" (not too many emails). >> > >> > I don't think I want to do that for my mail fold

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
Randy Kramer wrote: > On Tuesday 27 September 2005 09:27 am, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> Why do you think Maildir would perform worse for folders with thousands >> of >> emails? Everything I've read suggests it will perform better - and more >> reliably. > > First a quick (but dumb, I should lo

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag, 27. September 2005 16:48 schrieb Randy Kramer: > First a quick (but dumb, I should look it up) question. Does Linux do the > thing that Dos/Windows does (used to do?) of each file requiring a minimum > space (one cluster?), or does it vary by filesystem? That never had anything to do

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread Randy Kramer
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 09:27 am, Derek Broughton wrote: > Randy Kramer wrote: > > I suppose maildir will be OK (and maybe even better) for my inbox, which > > I generally keep "trimmed" (not too many emails). > > > > I don't think I want to do that for my mail folders which often have a > > l

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread André Wöbbeking
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 15:27, Derek Broughton wrote: > Randy Kramer wrote: > > I suppose maildir will be OK (and maybe even better) for my inbox, > > which I generally keep "trimmed" (not too many emails). > > > > I don't think I want to do that for my mail folders which often > > have a lot

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
Randy Kramer wrote: > I suppose maildir will be OK (and maybe even better) for my inbox, which I > generally keep "trimmed" (not too many emails). > > I don't think I want to do that for my mail folders which often have a lot > (thousands) of archived emails (usually short). > > Is it the genera

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-26 Thread Larry Garfield
On Monday 26 September 2005 11:30 am, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Montag, 26. September 2005 14:07 schrieb Randy Kramer: > > Is there / will there ever be a fix for this? > > Sure, rename your inbox to some other folder and let kmail recreate it as > maildir. maildir does not has such problems beca

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 26. September 2005 23:03 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: > Am Montag, 26. September 2005 21:23 schrieb Randy Kramer: > > I suppose maildir will be OK (and maybe even better) for my inbox, which > > I generally keep "trimmed" (not too many emails

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 26. September 2005 21:23 schrieb Randy Kramer: > I suppose maildir will be OK (and maybe even better) for my inbox, which I > generally keep "trimmed" (not too many emails). Maildir is the recommended format. It's even the default for a new

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-26 Thread Randy Kramer
On Monday 26 September 2005 12:30 pm, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Montag, 26. September 2005 14:07 schrieb Randy Kramer: > > Is there / will there ever be a fix for this? > > Sure, rename your inbox to some other folder and let kmail recreate it as > maildir. maildir does not has such problems beca

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-26 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 26. September 2005 14:07 schrieb Randy Kramer: > Is there / will there ever be a fix for this? Sure, rename your inbox to some other folder and let kmail recreate it as maildir. maildir does not has such problems because every e-mail is a seperate file. Speed then depends on the used

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-26 Thread Randy Kramer
On Monday 26 September 2005 03:29 am, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > Am Freitag, 23. September 2005 20:30 schrieb Randy Kramer: > > On Friday 23 September 2005 01:29 pm, Theo Schmidt wrote: > > > This has solved it, thanks! Kmail used to compact mailboxes on > > > closing; it looks like it no longer

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 23. September 2005 20:30 schrieb Randy Kramer: > On Friday 23 September 2005 01:29 pm, Theo Schmidt wrote: > > This has solved it, thanks! Kmail used to compact mailboxes on closing; > > it looks like it no longer does so. > > You're welco

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-23 Thread Randy Kramer
On Friday 23 September 2005 01:29 pm, Theo Schmidt wrote: > This has solved it, thanks! Kmail used to compact mailboxes on closing; > it looks like it no longer does so. You're welcome! But there is something else I should have mentioned--hope you haven't unindexed your inbox yet-- on my kmail

Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-23 Thread Theo Schmidt
Randy Kramer schrieb: Well, a little bit like the 2nd problem. Re the first, is kmail generating those emails automatically, or are you generating them and they get sent out with unknown subject, ...? No, not sending them, but I see there was also a problem with the server of my provider,

Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-23 Thread Randy Kramer
On Friday 23 September 2005 04:16 am, Theo Schmidt wrote: > Help! As I write, kmail is generating lots of unkown subject, unknown date, > unknown everything mails and lots of my old mails seem to be corrupted, > mainly headers gone. Well, a little bit like the 2nd problem. Re the first, is kmail

Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-23 Thread Larry Garfield
Would two filters, one on the client and one on the server, have the same effect? I've had this problem as well, and AFAIK I'm not using bogofilter anywhere but I do have spamassassin on my server as well as on my KMail client. On Friday 23 September 2005 03:55 am, Børre Gaup wrote: > Bearjad

Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-23 Thread Børre Gaup
Bearjadat, čakčamánu 23. b. 2005 10:16, Theo Schmidt čálii: > Help! As I write, kmail is generating lots of unkown subject, unknown date, > unknown everything mails and lots of my old mails seem to be corrupted, > mainly headers gone. > > I can't find anything on the internet. Anybody come across

kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-23 Thread Theo Schmidt
Help! As I write, kmail is generating lots of unkown subject, unknown date, unknown everything mails and lots of my old mails seem to be corrupted, mainly headers gone. I can't find anything on the internet. Anybody come across this? Suggestions? Please copy any answer to schmidt at umwelteinsa