Recommendations for a dummy Java 2 SDK package for PowerPC

2004-12-12 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 PowerPC Java Devs, ~What methods are people using when they need a dummy package to satisfy Java 2 SDK requirements for PowerPC? I am currently unable to build a package from source due to dependency issues related to not having a Java 2 package

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-09 Thread Stephen Zander
> "MS" == Marc Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> Blackdown is not Debian. Unless Debian has permission to MS> redistribute, it cannot go in non-free. Mark, did you actuall read what I wrote? > "AJ" == A J Rossini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AJ> 511$ more /usr/doc/j2sdk1

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-09 Thread A.J. Rossini
> "MS" == Marc Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> From: Stephen Zander >> Yes, Blackdown does have permission to redistribute j2se. The >> copyright file includes the additional terms that apply to >> Backdown mirrors and Linux distributions (including Debian). >> Is

RE: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-09 Thread Marc Sherman
From: Stephen Zander > Yes, Blackdown does have permission to redistribute j2se. The > copyright file includes the additional terms that apply to Backdown > mirrors and Linux distributions (including Debian). Is there anything > in those terms that is unclear? Blackdown is not Debian. Unless D

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-09 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Egon" == Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Egon> Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> should be able to answer Egon> this... Yes, Blackdown does have permission to redistribute j2se. The copyright file includes the additional terms that apply to Backdown mirrors and Linux

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-09 Thread Stephen Zander
> "MS" == Marc Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> Blackdown is not Debian. Unless Debian has permission to MS> redistribute, it cannot go in non-free. Mark, did you actuall read what I wrote? > "AJ" == A J Rossini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AJ> 511$ more /usr/doc/j2sdk

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-09 Thread A.J. Rossini
> "MS" == Marc Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> From: Stephen Zander >> Yes, Blackdown does have permission to redistribute j2se. The >> copyright file includes the additional terms that apply to >> Backdown mirrors and Linux distributions (including Debian). >> Is

RE: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-09 Thread Marc Sherman
From: Stephen Zander > Yes, Blackdown does have permission to redistribute j2se. The > copyright file includes the additional terms that apply to Backdown > mirrors and Linux distributions (including Debian). Is there anything > in those terms that is unclear? Blackdown is not Debian. Unless

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-09 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Egon" == Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Egon> Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> should be able to answer Egon> this... Yes, Blackdown does have permission to redistribute j2se. The copyright file includes the additional terms that apply to Backdown mirrors and Linux

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-08 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Monday 08 October 2001 08:17, Peter Makholm wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I was under the impression from the discussions this spring that the > > Blackdown folks had got explicit permission from Sun for Debian to > > distribute the JDK in non-free. > > If such permission

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-08 Thread Peter Makholm
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was under the impression from the discussions this spring that the > Blackdown folks had got explicit permission from Sun for Debian to > distribute the JDK in non-free. If such permission exists it should be mentioned in the packages copyright file. I

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Monday 08 October 2001 08:17, Peter Makholm wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I was under the impression from the discussions this spring that the > > Blackdown folks had got explicit permission from Sun for Debian to > > distribute the JDK in non-free. > > If such permissio

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-07 Thread Peter Makholm
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was under the impression from the discussions this spring that the > Blackdown folks had got explicit permission from Sun for Debian to > distribute the JDK in non-free. If such permission exists it should be mentioned in the packages copyright file.

Re: Blackdown Java 2 copyright (j2sdk, j2se)

2001-10-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 08:44:27PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > One interesting thing I did see was in the Sun Supplemental License > > terms, point 2: > > > | (iii) you do not distribute additional software intended to replace > > | any compon

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> What precisely is your objection to this discussion? So we only Ben> have the blackdown port now. Maybe in a year or two kaffe will Ben> support java2. Maybe the gcj people will support java2. Maybe Ben> not. The core parts of libgcj

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ben Burton
> Stephen (jdk (yes, all of them) maintainer) Am I missing something here? AFAICT, alternative runtimes such as kaffe, orp and the IBM JVM, as well as alternative compilers such as jikes, the kaffe compiler and gcj, are all maintained by other people. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places her

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ben Burton
> Until, and unless, there exists even the wiff of an alternate Java2 > implementation *in Debian*, I flat out don't see the point of this. What precisely is your objection to this discussion? So we only have the blackdown port now. Maybe in a year or two kaffe will support java2. Maybe the gcj

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Virtual package java2-runtime is fine with me. I'm even Ben> happy with provides: java-virtual-machine, java2-runtime Ben> since the former says "I do java" and the latter is more Ben> designed to specify a version of the c

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ben Burton
> > * Should we have a java2-compiler too? > > This probably should be discussed. It would be nice for Build-depends: > lines in debian/control files. FWIW, since build-depends is not intended for the general user, I tend to favour explicit build-depends such as Build-Depends: jikes

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> What precisely is your objection to this discussion? So we only Ben> have the blackdown port now. Maybe in a year or two kaffe will Ben> support java2. Maybe the gcj people will support java2. Maybe Ben> not. The core parts of libgcj

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ben Burton
> Stephen (jdk (yes, all of them) maintainer) Am I missing something here? AFAICT, alternative runtimes such as kaffe, orp and the IBM JVM, as well as alternative compilers such as jikes, the kaffe compiler and gcj, are all maintained by other people. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places he

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ben Burton
> Until, and unless, there exists even the wiff of an alternate Java2 > implementation *in Debian*, I flat out don't see the point of this. What precisely is your objection to this discussion? So we only have the blackdown port now. Maybe in a year or two kaffe will support java2. Maybe the gc

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Virtual package java2-runtime is fine with me. I'm even Ben> happy with provides: java-virtual-machine, java2-runtime Ben> since the former says "I do java" and the latter is more Ben> designed to specify a version of the

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ben Burton
> > * Should we have a java2-compiler too? > > This probably should be discussed. It would be nice for Build-depends: > lines in debian/control files. FWIW, since build-depends is not intended for the general user, I tend to favour explicit build-depends such as Build-Depends: jikes

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:04:19PM +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > > Ok this shounds good, but some things before I'll add it to the > > policy. > > > > * Should we have a java2-compiler too? > > This probably should be discussed. It would be ni

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > Ok this shounds good, but some things before I'll add it to the > policy. > > * Should we have a java2-compiler too? This probably should be discussed. It would be nice for Build-depends: lines in debian/control files. > * The java-vir

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ola Lundqvist
cy change does not > sounds a good thing... Well there are just a proposed policy yet... :) > Can everyone approve with java2-virtual-machine for Woody and > java[2]-runtime for Sid? Well maybe we should do like this instead: * Keep java-virtual-machine (for the virtual machine) * Start using

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Egon Willighagen
in favour of java(1?)-runtime for java1 packages. > I think it's important to keep things consistent. I agree. And since we are rather close to a freeze, a policy change does not sounds a good thing... Can everyone approve with java2-virtual-machine for Woody and java[2]-runtime for Sid? Egon

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Andrew Pimlott wrote: > I tend to agree that the name java2-virtual-machine is a little > misleading and perhaps silly (a remnant from when "virtual machine" > was a hot buzzword). Perhaps something like java2-runtime? java2-runtime is fine with me. My only concern i

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:04:19PM +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > > Ok this shounds good, but some things before I'll add it to the > > policy. > > > > * Should we have a java2-compiler too? > > This probably should be discussed. It would be n

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > Ok this shounds good, but some things before I'll add it to the > policy. > > * Should we have a java2-compiler too? This probably should be discussed. It would be nice for Build-depends: lines in debian/control files. > * The java-vi

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ola Lundqvist
cy change does not > sounds a good thing... Well there are just a proposed policy yet... :) > Can everyone approve with java2-virtual-machine for Woody and > java[2]-runtime for Sid? Well maybe we should do like this instead: * Keep java-virtual-machine (for the virtual machine) * Start using

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Egon Willighagen
in favour of java(1?)-runtime for java1 packages. > I think it's important to keep things consistent. I agree. And since we are rather close to a freeze, a policy change does not sounds a good thing... Can everyone approve with java2-virtual-machine for Woody and java[2]-runtime for Sid? Eg

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Andrew Pimlott wrote: > I tend to agree that the name java2-virtual-machine is a little > misleading and perhaps silly (a remnant from when "virtual machine" > was a hot buzzword). Perhaps something like java2-runtime? java2-runtime is fine with me. My only concern

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-11 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 03:13:35PM +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: > Hi Ben, > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > >

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-10 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 03:13:35PM +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: > Hi Ben, > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > >

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-10 Thread Ben Burton
> I think his (Juergen's) point is that j2re is simply a better > description of this claim than java2-virtual-machine. True, but my concern was that the current blackdown packages seem to be named j2re1.3 and j2sdk1.3, and I'd personally be happier if the virtual package doesn't appear tied to a

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-10 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:41:08PM -0500, Ben Burton wrote: > > > I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually > > means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. > > > > Our new packages currently provide j2re and j2re.. > &g

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-10 Thread Ben Burton
> I think his (Juergen's) point is that j2re is simply a better > description of this claim than java2-virtual-machine. True, but my concern was that the current blackdown packages seem to be named j2re1.3 and j2sdk1.3, and I'd personally be happier if the virtual package doesn't appear tied to

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-10 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:41:08PM -0500, Ben Burton wrote: > > > I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually > > means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. > > > > Our new packages currently provide j2re and j2re.. > &g

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-08 Thread Ben Burton
> java2-virtual-machine and java2-compiler are both appropriate at some > point, but as there isn't even *one* Java2 environment officially in > Debian yet, I think you're jumping the gun. Have a look through the debian-java archives; unless I've read it wrong, it seems the blackdown java2 enviro

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-08 Thread Ben Burton
> java2-virtual-machine and java2-compiler are both appropriate at some > point, but as there isn't even *one* Java2 environment officially in > Debian yet, I think you're jumping the gun. Have a look through the debian-java archives; unless I've read it wrong, it seems the blackdown java2 envir

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-08 Thread Egon Willighagen
machine" unless it actually > means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. Oh, but it is... Java2 programs can then "depend" on this java2-virtual-machine... Java2 implementations like your new packages will provide this "java2-virtual-machine" package... it is much

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Alas I don't see an easy way around this. In the meantime, Ben> java2-virtual-machine at least gives the java1.1 vs java2 Ben> distinction whilst being consistent with current policy and Ben> not singling out any particular

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
l-machine" unless it actually > means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. Oh, but it is... Java2 programs can then "depend" on this java2-virtual-machine... Java2 implementations like your new packages will provide this "java2-virtual-machine" package... it is much

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Alas I don't see an easy way around this. In the meantime, Ben> java2-virtual-machine at least gives the java1.1 vs java2 Ben> distinction whilst being consistent with current policy and Ben> not singling out any particula

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually > means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. The idea is that much as I love the blackdown port, one wants to allow for multiple JVMs that all offer a runtime environment that claims to be more or l

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I totally agree with your plans to change the policy to include a > java2-virtual-machine concept... I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually means a complete Java 2 runtime environment.

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually > means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. The idea is that much as I love the blackdown port, one wants to allow for multiple JVMs that all offer a runtime environment that claims to be more or l

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I totally agree with your plans to change the policy to include a > java2-virtual-machine concept... I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually means a complete Java 2 runtime environment.

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Egon, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Egon Willighagen wrote: > On Friday 07 September 2001 19:26, Egon Willighagen wrote: > > > Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have > > > comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested > > > in hearing any other proposal

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> BTW, what would the correct way to change the Java policy? Not sure. I'd do it by raising discussion on this list and filing a wishlist bug against java-common, which contains the java policy. But maybe I just don't know better. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Friday 07 September 2001 19:26, Egon Willighagen wrote: > > Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have > > comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested > > in hearing any other proposals, comments, etc. > > Yes, that sounds like a good idea..

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Friday 07 September 2001 15:13, Marcus Crafter wrote: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > > > No, I mean for instanc

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Egon, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Egon Willighagen wrote: > On Friday 07 September 2001 19:26, Egon Willighagen wrote: > > > Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have > > > comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested > > > in hearing any other proposa

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> BTW, what would the correct way to change the Java policy? Not sure. I'd do it by raising discussion on this list and filing a wishlist bug against java-common, which contains the java policy. But maybe I just don't know better. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Friday 07 September 2001 19:26, Egon Willighagen wrote: > > Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have > > comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested > > in hearing any other proposals, comments, etc. > > Yes, that sounds like a good idea.

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Friday 07 September 2001 15:13, Marcus Crafter wrote: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > > > No, I mean for instan

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> How does that sound ? Works for me. :) b. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] People can be so vicious toward the imaginary world and it saddens me. You kill a lot of little people's dreams that w

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Ben, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but > j2s

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > provide java-virtual-machine ? Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but j2sdk1.3 should provide both java-virtual-machine and java2-

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> How does that sound ? Works for me. :) b. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] People can be so vicious toward the imaginary world and it saddens me. You kill a lot of little people's dreams that

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Ben, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but > j2

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > provide java-virtual-machine ? Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but j2sdk1.3 should provide both java-virtual-machine and java2

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > java2-virtual-machine/dummy packages would help settle dependancies for non > > Debian packaged JDK's, java2 compliant Debian packages could 'provide' > > this. We could then 'depend' on it. > > ,,, > > ... perhaps we should introduce java2 in /etc/alte

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > java2-virtual-machine/dummy packages would help settle dependancies for non > > Debian packaged JDK's, java2 compliant Debian packages could 'provide' > > this. We could then 'depend' on it. > > ,,, > > ... perhaps we should introduce java2 in /etc/alt

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-05 Thread Ben Burton
> java2-virtual-machine/dummy packages would help settle dependancies for non > Debian packaged JDK's, java2 compliant Debian packages could 'provide' > this. We could then 'depend' on it. > ,,, > ... perhaps we should introduce java2 in /etc/alternatives ? FWIW, I like both of these ideas. I th

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-05 Thread Ben Burton
> java2-virtual-machine/dummy packages would help settle dependancies for non > Debian packaged JDK's, java2 compliant Debian packages could 'provide' > this. We could then 'depend' on it. > ,,, > ... perhaps we should introduce java2 in /etc/alternatives ? FWIW, I like both of these ideas. I t

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-05 Thread Marcus Crafter
t; > > This way, a user can install Sun's or IBM's JDK to /usr/local and install > > your package without breaking its dependencies. You could test if the > > JVM is Java 2 (either "java -version" or looking for > > $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/rt.jar) and print

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-05 Thread Marcus Crafter
t; > > This way, a user can install Sun's or IBM's JDK to /usr/local and install > > your package without breaking its dependencies. You could test if the > > JVM is Java 2 (either "java -version" or looking for > > $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/rt.jar) and print

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-04 Thread Colin Walters
Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One point to note is that j2sdk1.3 and j2re1.3 are not yet in debian > at all. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that a package in > debian can't depend on a package outside of debian. I asked about this on IRC a while ago in the context of emacs21; a n

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-04 Thread Colin Walters
Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One point to note is that j2sdk1.3 and j2re1.3 are not yet in debian > at all. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that a package in > debian can't depend on a package outside of debian. I asked about this on IRC a while ago in the context of emacs21; a

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-04 Thread Ben Burton
IBM's JDK to /usr/local and install > your package without breaking its dependencies. You could test if the > JVM is Java 2 (either "java -version" or looking for > $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/rt.jar) and print an error message if it's just JDK1.1. If you're using /usr/b

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-04 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:42:16PM +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: > JPDA is a Java 2 platform thing, and will only work with Java 2 > sdk/jdk's - is there a current policy recommendation for specifying > this in 'depend' lists ? I suggest to use "j2sdk1.3 | j2re1.

Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-04 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi All, Hope all is well. I'm currently packaging up JSwat for Debian. JSwat is a really cool JPDA debugger. The package is just about ready, but I have a housekeeping question: JPDA is a Java 2 platform thing, and will only work with Java 2

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-04 Thread Ben Burton
IBM's JDK to /usr/local and install > your package without breaking its dependencies. You could test if the > JVM is Java 2 (either "java -version" or looking for > $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/rt.jar) and print an error message if it's just JDK1.1. If you're using /usr/b

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-04 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:42:16PM +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote: > JPDA is a Java 2 platform thing, and will only work with Java 2 > sdk/jdk's - is there a current policy recommendation for specifying > this in 'depend' lists ? I suggest to use "j2sdk1.3 | j2re1.

Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-04 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi All, Hope all is well. I'm currently packaging up JSwat for Debian. JSwat is a really cool JPDA debugger. The package is just about ready, but I have a housekeeping question: JPDA is a Java 2 platform thing, and will only work with Java 2

Java 2 in Debian Main

2001-03-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
>>>>> "AR" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> I also would imagine that some day there will be free Java2 AR> implementation. And we could drop non-free :) Well, I believe anyone who -wants- there to be a Free Java 2 implementation in Deb

Java 2 in Debian Main

2001-03-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
>>>>> "AR" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> I also would imagine that some day there will be free Java2 AR> implementation. And we could drop non-free :) Well, I believe anyone who -wants- there to be a Free Java 2 implementation in

Re: Debian Java 2 1.3 package from Blackdown

2001-03-01 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> "Nicolas" == Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm talking to Sun about a possible amendment to our license which >> would allow our deb packages to go into Debian (non-free). Currently >> I'm waiting for feedback from Sun's legal department. Nicolás> BTW, y

Re: Debian Java 2 1.3 package from Blackdown

2001-03-01 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> "Nicolas" == Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm talking to Sun about a possible amendment to our license which >> would allow our deb packages to go into Debian (non-free). Currently >> I'm waiting for feedback from Sun's legal department. Nicolás> BTW,

Debian Java 2 1.3 package from Blackdown

2001-02-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> I'm talking to Sun about a possible amendment to our license which > would allow our deb packages to go into Debian (non-free). Currently > I'm waiting for feedback from Sun's legal department. BTW, you are listed as the maintainer of the Blackdown packages, I'd like to make some comments abou

Debian Java 2 1.3 package from Blackdown

2001-02-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> I'm talking to Sun about a possible amendment to our license which > would allow our deb packages to go into Debian (non-free). Currently > I'm waiting for feedback from Sun's legal department. BTW, you are listed as the maintainer of the Blackdown packages, I'd like to make some comments abo

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-17 Thread Heikki Kantola
According to Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > According to Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Do you have the latest version from IBM? > > > > Should be. > > > > > I think there was an upgrade in the last month. > > The most recent one I downloaded (in the last week) is: > >

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-17 Thread Heikki Kantola
According to Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > According to Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Do you have the latest version from IBM? > > > > Should be. > > > > > I think there was an upgrade in the last month. > > The most recent one I downloaded (in the last week) is: > >

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-16 Thread Christopher Cobb
Not that I'm aware of. cc "S.Salman Ahmed" wrote: > > > "CC" == Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > CC> The most recent one I downloaded (in the last week) is: > CC> > CC> IBMJava2-SDK-13.tgz, size in bytes: 32191540 > CC> > CC> IBM doesn't put version

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-16 Thread Christopher Cobb
Not that I'm aware of. cc "S.Salman Ahmed" wrote: > > > "CC" == Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > CC> The most recent one I downloaded (in the last week) is: > CC> > CC> IBMJava2-SDK-13.tgz, size in bytes: 32191540 > CC> > CC> IBM doesn't put versio

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-16 Thread Christopher Cobb
> According to Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Do you have the latest version from IBM? > > Should be. > > > I think there was an upgrade in the last month. The most recent one I downloaded (in the last week) is: IBMJava2-SDK-13.tgz, size in bytes: 32191540 IBM doesn't put ve

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-16 Thread Christopher Cobb
> According to Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Do you have the latest version from IBM? > > Should be. > > > I think there was an upgrade in the last month. The most recent one I downloaded (in the last week) is: IBMJava2-SDK-13.tgz, size in bytes: 32191540 IBM doesn't put v

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-16 Thread Heikki Kantola
According to Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Do you have the latest version from IBM? Should be. > I think there was an upgrade in the last month. Hmm, can't find such info on IBM's website, but then those pages are quite messy... :-/ -- * H e i k k i K a n t o l a * | Report

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-16 Thread Heikki Kantola
According to Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Do you have the latest version from IBM? Should be. > I think there was an upgrade in the last month. Hmm, can't find such info on IBM's website, but then those pages are quite messy... :-/ -- * H e i k k i K a n t o l a * | Repor

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-15 Thread Christopher Cobb
Do you have the latest version from IBM? I think there was an upgrade in the last month. cc Heikki Kantola wrote: > > While ago I had the IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 running fine on my Debian box. But > then came various upgrades (glibc 2.2 and XFree 4.01 being the prime > suspects) a

Re: IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-15 Thread Christopher Cobb
Do you have the latest version from IBM? I think there was an upgrade in the last month. cc Heikki Kantola wrote: > > While ago I had the IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 running fine on my Debian box. But > then came various upgrades (glibc 2.2 and XFree 4.01 being the prime > suspects) a

IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-15 Thread Heikki Kantola
While ago I had the IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 running fine on my Debian box. But then came various upgrades (glibc 2.2 and XFree 4.01 being the prime suspects) and these JDK programs have started to give segmentation faults when I try to run them. I'm quite puzzled what's wrong and would love

IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 doesn't like to run on current Woody

2000-12-15 Thread Heikki Kantola
While ago I had the IBM Java 2 SDK 1.3 running fine on my Debian box. But then came various upgrades (glibc 2.2 and XFree 4.01 being the prime suspects) and these JDK programs have started to give segmentation faults when I try to run them. I'm quite puzzled what's wrong and would love

Re: Java 2

2000-10-04 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> "Juergen" == Juergen Kreileder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Artur" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Artur> Are ther any plans to include latest java VM (1.2 or 1.3) Artur> in Debian? Juergen> We have Debian packages for Java2 v1.3, Java3D 1.2 and Juergen> JA

Re: Java 2

2000-10-04 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> "Juergen" == Juergen Kreileder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Artur" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Artur> Are ther any plans to include latest java VM (1.2 or 1.3) Artur> in Debian? Juergen> We have Debian packages for Java2 v1.3, Java3D 1.2 and Juergen> J

Re: Java 2

2000-08-29 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> "Artur" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Artur> Are ther any plans to include latest java VM (1.2 or 1.3) Artur> in Debian? We have Debian packages for Java2 v1.3, Java3D 1.2 and JAI 1.0.2. The packages will be available from our mirrors (http://www.blackdown.org/mirror.

Re: Java 2

2000-08-29 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> "Artur" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Artur> Are ther any plans to include latest java VM (1.2 or 1.3) Artur> in Debian? We have Debian packages for Java2 v1.3, Java3D 1.2 and JAI 1.0.2. The packages will be available from our mirrors (http://www.blackdown.org/mirror

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