On Friday 07 September 2001 15:13, Marcus Crafter wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote:
> > >   Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also
> > >   provide java-virtual-machine ?
> >
> > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :)
> >
> > No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but
> > j2sdk1.3 should provide both java-virtual-machine and
> > java2-virtual-machine.
>
>       *nod*. I agree.
>
> > This at least means that even though you don't have dependencies for
> > virtual packages, you still have a way of requiring Java2.  But OTOH
> > j2sdk1.3 will still satisfy the less stringent requirement of "any java",
> > i.e. java-virtual-machine.
>
>       Yep. We're on the same level here.
>
>       Ok, so what happens now ? This kind of proposal is something that
>       should really be added to the java-policy as it concerns the base
>       components of a java system. How does this happen (assuming it's
>       accepted) ?
>
>       Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have
>       comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested
>       in hearing any other proposals, comments, etc.

Yes, that sounds like a good idea... i have been reading this discussion, and
packaged Jmol for Debian as a non-maintainer (with comments from some Debian 
people) i recognize the problem as Jmol needs J2 as well...

I totally agree with your plans to change the policy to include a 
java2-virtual-machine concept...

>       If there are no major hassles, then mid next week I'll send in a more
>       formal proposal for a java2-virtual-machine concept, which can be
>       further discussed if needed. ITP's, etc, could then follow.
>
>       How does that sound ?

Go for it!

BTW, what would the correct way to change the Java policy? Most Debian 
developers do not know about Java enough to decide on these things...

Egon


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