Re: ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Greg Wilkins
Ignore most of my last email. Of course the jars in jetty/ext are symlinks. They are just synlinks to the wrong place. You have: lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 44 Jul 16 09:39 jasper-compiler.jar -> ../../tomcat4/common/lib/jasper-compiler.jar lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 43 Ju

Re: ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Greg Wilkins
Here is some testing feedback on the jetty-4.2.11-2 deb package. While I'm a debian user I have not used many of the java packages before - so appologies if any of these comments are a bit stupid. The logging is setup with true This should be false as it makes exceptions almost impossible to rea

Re: ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Greg Wilkins
Ignore most of my last email. Of course the jars in jetty/ext are symlinks. They are just synlinks to the wrong place. You have: lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 44 Jul 16 09:39 jasper-compiler.jar -> ../../tomcat4/common/lib/jasper-compiler.jar lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 43

Re: ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Greg Wilkins
Here is some testing feedback on the jetty-4.2.11-2 deb package. While I'm a debian user I have not used many of the java packages before - so appologies if any of these comments are a bit stupid. The logging is setup with true This should be false as it makes exceptions almost impossible to re

Re: ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:39:37PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > Philipp Meier wrote: > > >I'd just wanted to let you know, that there is now a jetty package on > >mentors.debian.net. Please feel free test the package. If there is > >positive feedback I will look to make jetty go into debian, soon.

Re: ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Philipp Meier wrote: I'd just wanted to let you know, that there is now a jetty package on mentors.debian.net. Please feel free test the package. If there is positive feedback I will look to make jetty go into debian, soon. I just took a look at the diff.gz and it looks very good. Well done! Just s

junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
[No need to CC a lot of lists, everybody involved is reading debian-java. I got your mail 3 times!] Robert Millan wrote: Now you decided we shouldn't have any junit implementation in main; or No, I did not. junit's dependecies are: Package: junit Section: contrib/devel Version: 3.8.1-3 Depends: k

Re: Bug#165504: acknowledged by developer (Re: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit)

2003-07-15 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo! * Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should have a junit implementation in main; IBM's junit is > preferred, BTW: it's not 'IBMs Junit'. Only one of the Authors is employed by a IBM owned company (OTI). > If the junit maintainer agrees to drop junit's arbitrary depend

ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
Hello bebian java users, I'd just wanted to let you know, that there is now a jetty package on mentors.debian.net. Please feel free test the package. If there is positive feedback I will look to make jetty go into debian, soon. -billy. -- Meisterbohne Meisterbohne GbR, Küfner, Mekle, Meier T

Re: ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:39:37PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > Philipp Meier wrote: > > >I'd just wanted to let you know, that there is now a jetty package on > >mentors.debian.net. Please feel free test the package. If there is > >positive feedback I will look to make jetty go into debian, soon.

Re: Bug#165504: acknowledged by developer (Re: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit)

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:03:25PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:36:44PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > That's not nice. I didn't orphan junit-freenet so that someone would > > remove it from debian without even asking me about it. > > But orphaning means that you n

Re: ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Philipp Meier wrote: I'd just wanted to let you know, that there is now a jetty package on mentors.debian.net. Please feel free test the package. If there is positive feedback I will look to make jetty go into debian, soon. I just took a look at the diff.gz and it looks very good. Well done! Just

Re: Bug#165504: acknowledged by developer (Re: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit)

2003-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:36:44PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:33:09PM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > > This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report > > #165504: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit, > > which was filed ag

Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer (Re: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit)

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:33:09PM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report > #165504: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit, > which was filed against the wnpp package. > > It has been closed by one of the developer

junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
[No need to CC a lot of lists, everybody involved is reading debian-java. I got your mail 3 times!] Robert Millan wrote: Now you decided we shouldn't have any junit implementation in main; or No, I did not. junit's dependecies are: Package: junit Section: contrib/devel Version: 3.8.1-3 Depends:

Re: Bug#165504: acknowledged by developer (Re: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit)

2003-07-15 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo! * Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should have a junit implementation in main; IBM's junit is > preferred, BTW: it's not 'IBMs Junit'. Only one of the Authors is employed by a IBM owned company (OTI). > If the junit maintainer agrees to drop junit's arbitrary depend

ANN: Jetty package on mentors.debian.net

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
Hello bebian java users, I'd just wanted to let you know, that there is now a jetty package on mentors.debian.net. Please feel free test the package. If there is positive feedback I will look to make jetty go into debian, soon. -billy. -- Meisterbohne Meisterbohne GbR, Küfner, Mekle, Meier T

Re: Bug#165504: acknowledged by developer (Re: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit)

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:03:25PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:36:44PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > That's not nice. I didn't orphan junit-freenet so that someone would > > remove it from debian without even asking me about it. > > But orphaning means that you n

Is java2-common vestigial?

2003-07-15 Thread Gregory K . Johnson
Things that make me think it is: 1. It hasn't been updated since May 2002. 2. It isn't mentioned in the Debian Policy for Java document (and java-common is mentioned extensively in conjunction with various Java 2 virtual packages). 3. I can't find any packages that depend on it.

Re: Bug#165504: acknowledged by developer (Re: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit)

2003-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:36:44PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:33:09PM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > > This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report > > #165504: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit, > > which was filed ag

Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer (Re: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit)

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:33:09PM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report > #165504: ITA: junit-freenet -- basic reimplementation of the JUnit, > which was filed against the wnpp package. > > It has been closed by one of the developer

Is java2-common vestigial?

2003-07-15 Thread Gregory K . Johnson
Things that make me think it is: 1. It hasn't been updated since May 2002. 2. It isn't mentioned in the Debian Policy for Java document (and java-common is mentioned extensively in conjunction with various Java 2 virtual packages). 3. I can't find any packages that depend on it.

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Greg Wilkins
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Why not simply depend on libtomcat4-java? Is it that big a package? It's a bit strange having Jetty depend on libtomcat - simply from a naming perspective. Kind of like having postgres depend on mysql. There is also may be a good reason to split out jasper, from a versioning

Re: new eclipse packages for testing

2003-07-15 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo! Replying to myself... update-alternative is working now. I would be really interested if anyone experiences failures while starting eclipse. I tried to workaround any big problems... Two things are still on my Todo: removing the eclipse binary launcher as a 'Depends' and removing some 'De

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:14:26PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > Philipp Meier wrote: > > >libtomcat4-java contains a lot of java libraries, even libraries that > >are already packaged in debian. It's size is over 1MB, and I need only > >250K. > > tomcat4 should not contain any libraries that are

Re: Getting a Java package in the distribution?

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 13:20, Stefan Gybas wrote: > D.Hansmann wrote: > > > build a java package from source (without changing it before)? There > > probably won't be a speed improvement... ;) > > Hey, that's what free/open source software is about! :-) Think for > example of security updates

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Greg Wilkins
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Why not simply depend on libtomcat4-java? Is it that big a package? It's a bit strange having Jetty depend on libtomcat - simply from a naming perspective. Kind of like having postgres depend on mysql. There is also may be a good reason to split out jasper, from a versionin

Re: Getting a Java package in the distribution?

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
D.Hansmann wrote: I'll work on the package and fix it soon! Integrating the ant build process seems interesting too, even if i don't know why somebody should Just take a look at the libcommons-*-java packages, they are pretty good exmaples for building a package with Ant. As soon as Ant has moved

Re: Getting a Java package in the distribution?

2003-07-15 Thread E.L. Willighagen
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:50, D.Hansmann wrote: > Cool, thanks for the tips, everybody! :) > > I'll work on the package and fix it soon! Integrating the ant build > process seems interesting too, even if i don't know why somebody should > build a java package from source (without changing it befor

Re: Getting a Java package in the distribution?

2003-07-15 Thread D.Hansmann
Cool, thanks for the tips, everybody! :) I'll work on the package and fix it soon! Integrating the ant build process seems interesting too, even if i don't know why somebody should build a java package from source (without changing it before)? There probably won't be a speed improvement... ;) And

Re: new eclipse packages for testing

2003-07-15 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo! Replying to myself... update-alternative is working now. I would be really interested if anyone experiences failures while starting eclipse. I tried to workaround any big problems... Two things are still on my Todo: removing the eclipse binary launcher as a 'Depends' and removing some 'De

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:14:26PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > Philipp Meier wrote: > > >libtomcat4-java contains a lot of java libraries, even libraries that > >are already packaged in debian. It's size is over 1MB, and I need only > >250K. > > tomcat4 should not contain any libraries that are

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Philipp Meier wrote: libtomcat4-java contains a lot of java libraries, even libraries that are already packaged in debian. It's size is over 1MB, and I need only 250K. tomcat4 should not contain any libraries that are available in other Debian packages, they should just be symlinks. If I've misse

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Philipp Meier wrote: Both tomcat4 and jetty are servlet engines. It would IMHO make sense to make both provide sth. like "java-servlet-engine". I don't think it makes sense. Sure, packages that contain webapps can depend on "java-servlet-engine" and put their webapp in /usr/share/java/webapps. Bu

Re: Getting a Java package in the distribution?

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 13:20, Stefan Gybas wrote: > D.Hansmann wrote: > > > build a java package from source (without changing it before)? There > > probably won't be a speed improvement... ;) > > Hey, that's what free/open source software is about! :-) Think for > example of security updates

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:55:12AM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Philipp Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jetty depends on jasper. Jasper is not packaged standalone but included > > in libtomcat4-java. Shall I file a bug-report against libtomcat4-java or > > what's the proposed procedure in th

Re: Getting a Java package in the distribution?

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
D.Hansmann wrote: I'll work on the package and fix it soon! Integrating the ant build process seems interesting too, even if i don't know why somebody should Just take a look at the libcommons-*-java packages, they are pretty good exmaples for building a package with Ant. As soon as Ant has move

Re: Getting a Java package in the distribution?

2003-07-15 Thread E.L. Willighagen
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:50, D.Hansmann wrote: > Cool, thanks for the tips, everybody! :) > > I'll work on the package and fix it soon! Integrating the ant build > process seems interesting too, even if i don't know why somebody should > build a java package from source (without changing it befor

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Philipp Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jetty depends on jasper. Jasper is not packaged standalone but included > in libtomcat4-java. Shall I file a bug-report against libtomcat4-java or > what's the proposed procedure in this case? Why not simply depend on libtomcat4-java? Is it that big a pa

Re: Getting a Java package in the distribution?

2003-07-15 Thread D.Hansmann
Cool, thanks for the tips, everybody! :) I'll work on the package and fix it soon! Integrating the ant build process seems interesting too, even if i don't know why somebody should build a java package from source (without changing it before)? There probably won't be a speed improvement... ;) An

Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
Hello debian java users, I made some preliminary jetty packages wich I want to share with the public. Because this the first debian package I built, I'm sure there are thing I did wrong, so please feel free to nag me. I talked to the upstram maintainer which will support my effort at first. While

Re: javacc

2003-07-15 Thread Nicolas Sabouret
Arnaud wrote: > Sun does respond to your question before you ask! ;) > > http://javacc.dev.java.net/ > > Summary: JavaCC is a parser/scanner generator for java > Categories: None > License: Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) License OK, thanks, but the "usage.html" file, provided with the 3.0

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Philipp Meier wrote: libtomcat4-java contains a lot of java libraries, even libraries that are already packaged in debian. It's size is over 1MB, and I need only 250K. tomcat4 should not contain any libraries that are available in other Debian packages, they should just be symlinks. If I've miss

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Philipp Meier wrote: Both tomcat4 and jetty are servlet engines. It would IMHO make sense to make both provide sth. like "java-servlet-engine". I don't think it makes sense. Sure, packages that contain webapps can depend on "java-servlet-engine" and put their webapp in /usr/share/java/webapps. B

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:55:12AM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Philipp Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jetty depends on jasper. Jasper is not packaged standalone but included > > in libtomcat4-java. Shall I file a bug-report against libtomcat4-java or > > what's the proposed procedure in th

Re: trying to install tomcat 4.1.24 from unstable

2003-07-15 Thread Mats Henrikson
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 07:59, Tasos Vogiatzoglou wrote: > You can use mkpkg-j2sdk , a util that creates a deb package from j2sdk binary > distribution . > You can search Google for mkpkg-j2sdk. The actual package name is mpkg-j2sdk, and it is part of the debian distributions, so an apt-get shoul

Re: Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Philipp Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jetty depends on jasper. Jasper is not packaged standalone but included > in libtomcat4-java. Shall I file a bug-report against libtomcat4-java or > what's the proposed procedure in this case? Why not simply depend on libtomcat4-java? Is it that big a pa

Re: trying to install tomcat 4.1.24 from unstable

2003-07-15 Thread Tasos Vogiatzoglou
ÎÏÎÏ 15/ÎÎÏÎ/2003, ÎÎÎÏÎ ÎÏÎÏÎ ÎÎÎ ÏÏÎ 04:13, Î/Î Bob Langford ÎÎÏÎÏÎ: > Greetings! > > I'm trying to install Tomcat 4.1.24-2 from the unstable section, > and I'm running into a wall. It depends on "j2re1.4" or "java2-runtime", > neither of which seems to exist. I have installed the Sun JD

Jetty packages are on it's way

2003-07-15 Thread Philipp Meier
Hello debian java users, I made some preliminary jetty packages wich I want to share with the public. Because this the first debian package I built, I'm sure there are thing I did wrong, so please feel free to nag me. I talked to the upstram maintainer which will support my effort at first. While

Re: javacc

2003-07-15 Thread Nicolas Sabouret
Arnaud wrote: > Sun does respond to your question before you ask! ;) > > http://javacc.dev.java.net/ > > Summary: JavaCC is a parser/scanner generator for java > Categories: None > License: Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) License OK, thanks, but the "usage.html" file, provided with the 3.0

Re: trying to install tomcat 4.1.24 from unstable

2003-07-15 Thread Mats Henrikson
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 07:59, Tasos Vogiatzoglou wrote: > You can use mkpkg-j2sdk , a util that creates a deb package from j2sdk binary > distribution . > You can search Google for mkpkg-j2sdk. The actual package name is mpkg-j2sdk, and it is part of the debian distributions, so an apt-get shoul

Re: trying to install tomcat 4.1.24 from unstable

2003-07-15 Thread Tasos Vogiatzoglou
Στις 15/Ιούλ/2003, ημέρα Τρίτη και ώρα 04:13, ο/η Bob Langford έγραψε: > Greetings! > > I'm trying to install Tomcat 4.1.24-2 from the unstable section, > and I'm running into a wall. It depends on "j2re1.4" or "java2-runtime", > neither of which seems to exist. I have installed the Sun JD