Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-18 Thread Ondřej Surý
; <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87ppcx18ph@hope.eyrie.org > --

Bug#668870: RFH: golang

2012-04-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Hi, I am looking for co-maintainers (DMs are welcome). I don't use Go myself, so the prospective co-maintaner should be a person who is involved in Go more than I am. Ondrej -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Bug#678003: ITP: credns -- DNS(SEC) verification proxy

2012-06-18 Thread Ondřej Surý
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ondřej Surý" [Note: DNSSEX has been recently renamed to credns.] * Package name: credns Version : 0.2.10 Upstream Author : NLNet Labs * URL : http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/dnssexy/ * License : BSD Progra

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
any other webserver included in Debian, but it might affect any application which relies on system MIME types to interpret PHP files. -- Ondřej Surý Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:31:31 +0200 - Update the README.Debian to match current state. I will upload this change as part of 5.4.6-1 upload

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
, but I guess we now have to find a way how to cope with them and still make release team happy. I think the changes I have done are least intrusive, but again opinions may vary. O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: > On Monday 20 August 2012, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> Ah, I see; it gets executed when there is no know handler or >> mime-type for second extension. >> >> E.g. index.php.jpeg works as expected (e.g. returning PHP sourc

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
ce for further information. O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caljhhg_0smdoegerxyen1u0mxgpmyyt1gbvmqdmictt-u4e...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 09:07:59AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > [...] >>> Maybe add just a small paragraph that the configuration of the >>> extensions has changed and php users should read the NEWS

Re: About the media types text/x-php and text/x-php-source

2012-08-24 Thread Ondřej Surý
with IANA since we are missing too many new MIME-Type definitions, but again I think it's already too late in the release cycle to think about that, but again I do not speak for release team. O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caljhhg8ukz9ujn-ac7lkjby_clcbxbwc93zw1dohtwznx6j...@mail.gmail.com

Re: About the media types text/x-php and text/x-php-source

2012-08-24 Thread Ondřej Surý
g different MIME-Type won't break anything (which wasn't already broken before elsewhere and nobody really noticed - or there would be a bug report). O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: [php-maint] Bug#670945: About the media types text/x-php and text/x-php-source

2012-08-27 Thread Ondřej Surý
a note to > NEWS. I don't think it's good idea to drop something we already support and users are apparently using without any problems. O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: [php-maint] Bug#670945: Bug#670945: About the media types text/x-php and text/x-php-source

2012-08-29 Thread Ondřej Surý
ructions to re-add MIME-Types in Apache 2 configuration or how to use mod_rewrite to accomplish the same without the fragility of Multi- Views. -- Ondřej Surý Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:18:41 +0200 and http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-php/php.g

Re: [php-maint] Bug#670945: Bug#670945: Bug#670945: About the media types text/x-php and text/x-php-source

2012-08-29 Thread Ondřej Surý
-08-29 at 09:28 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> With much cooler head and weekend after me and after carefull >> consideration of Chris's >> comments I have decided to go with: > Good =) > > Some comments to your text :) > >> php5 (5.4.4-7) unstable; urgency

Upcoming libgd2-{xpm,noxpm}-dev -> libgd2-dev transition

2013-05-13 Thread Ondřej Surý
(U) raster3d (U) NeuroDebian Team fsl Nick Rusnov enscribe Niels Thykier mscgen Ondřej Surý php5 (U) Paul van Tilburg ruby-gd (U) Peter Clifton geda-gaf (U) Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan pcb (U) Reinhard Tartler lcd4linux Romain Beauxis gd4o (U) liqui

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Ondřej Surý
as how should PHP in Debian look like directly as a freaking *release goals* instead of opening this first in php-maint list for discussion. > All in all I don't see any Release Goal material yet, here. +1 O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Bug#708329: ITP: php-yac -- YAC (Yet Another Cache) for PHP 5

2013-05-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ondřej Surý" * Package name: php-yac Version : 0~gitf7e74e Upstream Author : Xinchen Hui * URL : https://github.com/laruence/yac * License : The PHP License, version 3.01 Programming Lang: C Description

Bug#708332: ITP: php-apcu -- APC (Alternative PHP Cache) User Cache

2013-05-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ondřej Surý" * Package name: php-apcu Version : 4.0.1 Upstream Author : Joe Watkins * URL : http://pecl.php.net/package/APCu * License : The PHP License, version 3.01 Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Upcoming libgd2-{xpm,noxpm}-dev -> libgd2-dev transition

2013-05-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 22:34:36 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> Two things has happened with GD Library: >> >> 1. I have dropped the {xpm,noxpm} dichotomy and there's only >>libgd2-dev now. The

Re: Specifying a C++11 compatible pre-dependency

2013-05-19 Thread Ondřej Surý
Depend on gcc-4.8 and override CC=cc-4.8 on powerpc in debian/rules. Ondřej Surý On 16. 5. 2013, at 5:20, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a package[1] that will not transition to testing due to failed > compilation on powerpc. The problem is that the actual packag

Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay)

2013-05-19 Thread Ondřej Surý
transition), Cyrus SASL (cyrus-sasl2), Cyrus IMAPd (cyrus-imapd-2.2 -> cyrus-imapd-2.4 transition with some crazy database backends change). And I already have pu for three of four of them (not very proud of that). And rails 2.3+3.2, but thanks to Antonio Terceiro (and rest of pkg-ruby-extra), I don

Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-19 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > >> So apart from the more hands on some packages with high priority, it >> would really help me to have some automated tests which would be run >> before uploadi

Upgrade path from experimental to unstable

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
erimental should be able to resolve this themselves. This is very simple example, but there might be other more complicated scenarios, where caring about the upgrade path might not be desireable. So what are your opinions? Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-re

Algorithm for selecting between packages providing the same phpapi-20100525, change between squeeze -> wheezy

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
It seems that apt is ignoring Priority: (php5filter is extra) The solution would be to pick one default SAPI and do php5-SAPI | phpapi-20100525, but that would be hard to push into all r-depending PHP modules. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
e to tiff 4.x. I just did update all B-D. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caljhhg9woyzycppkansc3pu0ce2ldo4dcjz5jyfz8t6q9kj...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
or of doing this, but this either needs (more hardware) > ressources or is non-trivial. Still, I'm all for it and happy to help. > > > cheers, > Holger > > -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &q

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
; > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/20130520141454.0240755266.qww314...@jberkenbilt-linux.appiancorp

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
to friendly poke with more aggression is not worth any bug or any software. Unstable breaks sometimes, users should cope with that. O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
bugreport.cgi?bug=709145 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709146 A lovely bunch of security issues introduced... (also in wheezy due embedded t1lib). O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
; have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or before > lintian. Also integrate it with git-pbuilder/pbuilder/cowbuilder to run piuparts inside the created clean(ish) chroot, so it's less time consuming. O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-re

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 07:02:17PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Adam D. Barratt >> wrote: >> > Or that gd needs to not tie its own transition to libtiff, and should go >> > b

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
e could discover different type of bugs. O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caljhhg-u8qhzmjs8oger8qnwodzwgeftat6qjq8sknvxl0p...@mail.gmail.com

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-22 Thread Ondřej Surý
JFTR I already realized that and the new libgd2 upload has only libtiff-dev as B-D and D. Ondrej On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2013, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> I did: >> >> $ grep tiff debian/control >> B-D: libtiff5-alt-dev |

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-22 Thread Ondřej Surý
e, correct me if I’m wrong, but I see the following > scenario: Do a full analysis of the problem and send a patch, please. Proposing and solving hypothetical problems on d-d doesn't help anybody or anything. O. -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.

Bug#709295: ITP: seafile -- online file storage and collaboration server

2013-05-22 Thread Ondřej Surý
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ondřej Surý" * Package name: seafile Version : 1.6.1 Upstream Author : Seafile Ltd. * URL : http://seafile.com * License : GPL3+ Programming Lang: C Description : online file storage and collaborat

Re: Bwaaaaah I will tell my daddy^W^Wthe CTTE^W^Wa GR

2013-05-22 Thread Ondřej Surý
this reaction and I have a deep understanding for it. Ondřej Surý P.S.: You should also stop using phrases like "five years old" - using the word "inappropriate" would make your email still correct, but not so dishonesting. On 23. 5. 2013, at 7:44, Andrew Shadura wrote: &g

"Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-24 Thread Ondřej Surý
ed someone to help me handle php5 bug reports... * - It doesn't have to be blacklist per se, it could be a queue which would be viewed by some fresher minds, who still doesn't have debian-burnout-syndrome. (Or maybe they should solve some complex problem before they can submit the bug :).

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-25 Thread Ondřej Surý
ples in other packages by these two. As I said some of the bug reports are valuable, but the noise-signal ratio is lower then usual, and handling such bugreports sucks all joy from Debian for me. O. On 24 May 2013 17:26, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to ask what

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-25 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2013, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > I would like to ask what would be general opinion to add functionality > > to BTS to be able to blacklist[*] certain people from filling the bugs > > directly. > > We

Re: optimizing PNGs

2013-05-26 Thread Ondřej Surý
I think it's worth approaching upstream and recompressing the images in upstream. Ondřej Surý On 26. 5. 2013, at 17:56, Adam Borowski wrote: > Hi folks! > > A while ago, someone raised the possibility of recompressing PNG files. > Unlike xz, this would save space not on

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-26 Thread Ondřej Surý
n my opinion, it's just the right thing to do. You are free to receive whatever garbage bug reports in your package. However my time is too valuable to deal with people who don't listen and just repeat their opinion endlessly (yes, speaking about Filipus here). That's why I have asked for per-package blacklist. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-27 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ben Hutchings writes: > > On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 10:41 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > >> I have no big problem pointing fingers on d-d. > >> > >> Example 1: Dan Jacobson > > > Often writes p

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-05-27 Thread Ondřej Surý
k than to decide the only supported init system. * - That's just *6* out of my 70+ package, but I doubt that anybody has too much packages with init script to handle (and if that's the case he should have co-maintainers). O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-27 Thread Ondřej Surý
d just close the bugs and the effect would be same. I like the idea from Bastien: affects bug-improve or even better reassign bug-improve affects But we still need the bugsquash team to be formed. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-27 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2013-05-27 09:04:53 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > I think I have never said the word "abuse", just "tiresome". The "I see a > > warning from ucf, let's fill a bug on php5-common"

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-05-27 Thread Ondřej Surý
this: - 95% of native init configs in Packages with Priority: standard - 60% of native init scripts in Packages with Priority: optional - support for udev/dbus/whatever/... O. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > On 27/05/13 at 09:13 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:

Forming a Debian bugsquad team (Was: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines))

2013-05-27 Thread Ondřej Surý
an answer 5. special user-tag, f.e. 'bugsq...@lists.alioth.debian.org' -- On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:04:53AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > He still files

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-05-27 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ondřej Surý writes: > > > I would be quite happy to write service files for two (systemd, upstart) > > or three (systemd, upstart, openrc) of those in all my packages[*], if > > it stops the endless flamewar here.

How to check for other init systems from sysvinit script

2013-05-30 Thread Ondřej Surý
not can somebody prepare it)? Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ced6f2b6-4314-484d-b3be-d2059cf75...@sury.org

Re: [clang] Report bugs on packages failing to build with clang

2013-05-30 Thread Ondřej Surý
Please do. Minor is fine (any non-RC bug severity would be fine with me). Ondřej Surý On 29. 5. 2013, at 19:05, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > Hello, > > With the recent setup of the parallel build infrastructure using clang > instead of gcc [1], I would like to start to report > b

Re: How to check for other init systems from sysvinit script

2013-05-31 Thread Ondřej Surý
have a place to collect the wisdom. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-05-31 Thread Ondřej Surý
On 31. 5. 2013, at 15:53, Jeff Epler wrote: > The idea that somehow users of non-linux kernels don't matter or don't > even exist as debian users is one of the most frustrating bits of this > whole thread. I would happily support any non-linux kernel arch in form of integrating patches, but the

Custom Reload command/signal in upstart

2013-05-31 Thread Ondřej Surý
exit 1; fi' ExecStart=/usr/sbin/php5-fpm ExecReload=/bin/kill -USR2 $MAINPID [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target EOF and cat > php5-fpm.upstart << EOF # php5-fpm - The PHP FastCGI Process Manager description "The PHP FastCGI Process Manager" author "Ondřej Surý &qu

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-06-01 Thread Ondřej Surý
Ondřej Surý On 1. 6. 2013, at 11:59, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:33:22 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >> On May 31, Jeff Epler wrote: >>> The idea that somehow users of non-linux kernels don't matter or don't >>> eve

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-06-01 Thread Ondřej Surý
On 1. 6. 2013, at 16:48, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 12:42:33 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: >> What's the point in doing that work >> when, in the end, hardly anyone is using it? > > Freedom. It is not free to take away freedom just because too few > people have chosen t

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-06-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
On 2. 6. 2013, at 23:00, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 21:26:32 +0200, Ond?ej Surý > wrote: >> We have removed archs from release archs and moved them to ports and nobody >> claimed we are less universal. > > I did. I still think it is a pity that we removed them. You could have inve

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-06-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
bug number? Did you mean #707237, which was filed a day after > 707131? > Yes, I did. The duplicate bug is linked there as merged. And again – here we have a nice new and shiny *grave* bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=711062 with nothing else than four lines of (mainly useless) console output. The BTS is not an user support forum for clueless users. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-06-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
. > Jidani in this case is a nice guy and follow the step. > That's why he usually doesn't use reportbug and never respond to any inquiries to improve his bugreports. Oh, yeah, he is a nice guy. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-05 Thread Ondřej Surý
e talking about? > So, there was no reason, that this wasn't fixed on release. There might be a plenty of reasons. Maybe the issue isn't so simple, maybe the maintainer have a life, job, etc., or maybe nobody has reported the bug...? O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-10 Thread Ondřej Surý
c -l 61 Do you have idea how would a buggy PAM module affect PID 1? O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: How to bump the SONAME of a library ? [WAS: DH way to set SONAME]

2013-06-10 Thread Ondřej Surý
t; `current' must be increased by one ? > > Thanks in advance, > Jerome > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b509e7.90...@rezozer.net > > -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-10 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > Le 2013-06-10 10:18, Ondřej Surý a écrit : > > > systemd does not rely on a toolkit. So, most of the arguments >>> listed by >>> Jamie do not hold. I suppose that you are mostly worried by libdbus >>

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-11 Thread Ondřej Surý
.6-4~), util-linux (>= 2.19.1-2), initscripts (>= 2.88dsf-17), udev And this list include all of them. So either the webpage "optional" means a different thing than upstream "optional" or the future-to-be PID1 package will not include these dependencies. Can you please clarify? O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-12 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi Michael, On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Hi Ondřej, > > Ondřej Surý writes: > > and if I match this with the table at: > > http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/docs/systemd-dependencies.html I > get > > the result that you w

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-12 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Uoti Urpala wrote: > Michael Stapelberg wrote: > > Ondřej Surý writes: > > > I still think you should also update the table with information if the > > > library is actually used in PID 1 (or in forked process) as hmh > suggested: &g

Re: system-wide crypto policies

2013-06-28 Thread Ondřej Surý
ong in 10 years or so. Hence they need to move to anything stronger much sooner than general population (or Debian). O. -- Ondřej Surý

Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
ttp://tokyocabinet.sourceforge.net/benchmark.pdf or http://www.dmo.ca/blog/benchmarking-hash-databases-on-large-data/ Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý affected.list Description: Binary data

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 09:44:10AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Florian Weimer has correctly pointed out that Oracle has decided to > change the > > BDB 6.0 license to AGPLv3 ( > https://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/bdb/

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I think we should just keep libdb5.3 until a suitable replacement shows > up. The OpenLDAP lightningdb might be a viable option: http://symas.com/mdb/ O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
> trustedqsl > vacation > webalizer > webdruid > wvstreams > xastir > xemacs21 > zeroc-ice > > > HtH, > > -- > Dan Shearer > d...@shearer.org > > > > [1] KVP: Key value pair store is an unordered list of paired items, with > an index. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute-value_pair . On top of > this view you can layer tables (eg SQL RDBMS), special-purpose trees (eg > LDAP, DNS) or other models. > > [2] MVCC is about avoiding locks by giving readers a consistent view of > the data store at a given point in time. BDB implemented MVCC using > locks, although that partly defeats the purpose. See > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiversion_concurrency_control > > - End forwarded message - > -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
n) instead of presenting just the ad hominem arguments. Thanks. Ondřej Surý > On 2. 7. 2013, at 16:57, Clint Adams wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 03:36:57PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> apt-get is licensed GPLv2 and thus incompatible with AGPLv3. > > No, apt is GP

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Clint Adams wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 05:22:03PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Also it would cultivate the debate here if you have presented your > arguments (e.g. explain why I might be mistaken) instead of presenting just > the ad ho

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Clint Adams wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 05:22:03PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> > Also it would cultivate the debate here if you have presented your >> arguments (e.g. expl

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
t; contacting them will make the problem more widely apparent and their > ittentions more clear. > I already wrote to the Oracle developer I am in close contact with about the mismatch of the license in distribution tarball and I will pursue this further when he responds. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Richard Fontana wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 06:20:48PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > I don't believe I have spread any FUD. > > > [...] > > 2. AGPLv3 is incompatible with Apache 2.0 license ( > http://www.apache.org/ >

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
considering the same arguments, to LGPL3+. > They already had a stronger license (SleepyCat is a two-clause BSD with strong copyleft paragraph added), so it doesn't make any sense to relicense to LGPLv3+. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Mass bug filing for shared library broken symlinks detected by piuparts

2013-07-03 Thread Ondřej Surý
> fabien boucher > libjson0-dev : json-c > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjson.so Also a false positive – this is result of json to json-c library name transition made by upstream and the symlink is kept there to allow programs to be compiled with -ljson. Ondrej

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-03 Thread Ondřej Surý
er copyright holders' opinion doesn't really matter – even if they relicense just the parts they own the whole work will be distributed under stricter license (e.g. AGPLv3). But feel free to correct me if I am wrong. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-03 Thread Ondřej Surý
2. SISSL is not GPL compatible according to Wikipedia 3. And a couple of files under UNKNOWN license :) 4. AFAIK GPL-incompatible 5. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#IBMPL 6. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#QPL 7. However this case might be the borderline case as outlined here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Mass bug filing for shared library broken symlinks detected by piuparts

2013-07-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
age calling ldconfig ... which may > happen shortly after the installation of libjson-dev - or two months later. > > > Andreas > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51d51543.2080...@debian.org > > -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Michael Banck wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 06:39:30AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Michael Banck > wrote: > > > People have pointed out upthread that Oracle does not appear to be the >

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
t is a more technical issue, but based on licensing issue. We need to pick BDB version with license which is compatible with all packages that uses it. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-05 Thread Ondřej Surý
recap: We want just one Berkeley DB version and we need one compatible with existing application's licenses. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Testers (and Debhelper Perl Developers) needed: Debhelper support for PHP5 and SAPI/module php5 {en,dis}mod helper

2013-07-09 Thread Ondřej Surý
e. d) module maintainers – please try new dh_php5 (dh $@ --with php5) – you can find an example in php-apcu git – and report success/failures (preferrably with patches). Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Algorithm for selecting between packages providing the same phpapi-20100525, change between squeeze -> wheezy

2013-07-09 Thread Ondřej Surý
wrote: > (funny, talk without end about init systems, but not a single response > for a Debian native tool for a few days… and with funny, I meant sad) > > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > I am just curious about the selection mechanism in apt(itude),

Re: Testers (and Debhelper Perl Developers) needed: Debhelper support for PHP5 and SAPI/module php5 {en,dis}mod helper

2013-07-09 Thread Ondřej Surý
Group uses > phppear which comes > with pkg-php-tools. See php-stomp[1]. The pkg-php-tools seems to be nicer, > since you > don't need to modify d/rules for each version update. > Already removed from php5-dev except of dh_php5 which is still needed. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
stay with handwritten shell scripts if the init.d script is more complex, but I suspect that it would be ok for most packages to just have a simple compatibility layer on top of systemd service files. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Arto Jantunen wrote: > Ondřej Surý writes: > > Just a quick idea: > > > > Can we (the mysterious somebody) write a drop-in simple dummy init.d > script > > which would take a(ny) systemd service file and run the daemon on > >

Re: Algorithm for selecting between packages providing the same phpapi-20100525, change between squeeze -> wheezy

2013-07-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 14:25:59 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > David, > > > > will this bug get fixed in wheezy? > > > > More people are starting to complain they get libapache2-mod-php5filter >

Re: jpeg8 vs jpeg-turbo

2013-07-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
ne now: #717076 Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Pulseaudio (was ... Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports)

2013-07-17 Thread Ondřej Surý
by trying to find out why > it smells? I recommend reading up on what 'anecdotal evidence' is, and filling the bug report on PA next time when you encounter a problem instead of pilling up PA issues in debian-devel in order to bash systemd. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-19 Thread Ondřej Surý
t bar some software to create derivative works with Berkeley DB, but the list would be considerably shorter. Or they will need to add the 4-clause BSD license to the exception list. O. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Hi, > > Florian Weimer has correctly pointed out t

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 1:37 AM, brian m. carlson < sand...@crustytoothpaste.net> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 04:29:21PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Hi, > > > > would FOSS Exception similar to > > http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
stop this endless debate and force the participants to write the technical summary. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Why we need supervision in init(1)

2013-07-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, JFTR this is yet another example: #681088, why we really need a native supervision of the daemons and where (apart from switching from quagga to bird :) the supervision would have helped tremendously instead of writing yet-another-supervision-script. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Grub 2.00 in testing?

2013-07-22 Thread Ondřej Surý
nfrastructure-announce/2013/07/msg0.html > 2. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/07/msg6.html > 3. http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi > > KiBi. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130722090210.ga29...@mraw.org > > -- Ondřej Surý

Re: projectb mirror (was: Re: Grub 2.00 in testing?)

2013-07-22 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > > Hi, > > On 07/22/2013 12:57, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > dak on coccia.d.o is not in the best shape (yet): > > > > $ dak rm -nR ruby-activesupport-2.3 > [...] > > daklib.dak_exceptions.CantOpenError: &g

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-22 Thread Ondřej Surý
. Thus any possible future change will be *easier* and not harder that this step. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-25 Thread Ondřej Surý
ve your point (or the point of the other party). O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: new hashes (SHA512, SHA3) in apt metadata and .changes files?

2013-08-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
;s a cryptographical need (there isn't at the moment). O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: new hashes (SHA512, SHA3) in apt metadata and .changes files?

2013-08-03 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:57 PM, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > So, yeah let's drop MD5, but don't introduce neither SHA512 nor SHA-3 > > unless there's a

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