On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> wrote:

> Ben Hutchings <b...@decadent.org.uk> writes:
> > On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 10:41 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>
> >> I have no big problem pointing fingers on d-d.
> >>
> >> Example 1: Dan Jacobson <jida...@jidanni.org>
>
> > Often writes poor bug reports, but is not abusive.
>
> And his bug reports have gotten better and better over the years.


I am horrified what his bugreports were before the years, if those I have
just shown are "better" :).


> He
> still files all upstream bugs with Debian, but I can't throw stones there;
> I tend to do the same thing myself, since Debian has such a nice and
> consistent bug reporting interface and upstream's usually... isn't.  :)
>
> He files lots and lots of minor/wishlist bugs, but that isn't abuse.  He's
> one of the few people who regularly files bugs when he finds unclear or
> confusing documentation, and while that results in a lot of small bugs
> (and a lot of bugs that are really upstream bugs), I think that's also a
> valuable *type* of bug that frequently doesn't get enough attention.
>

I think I have never said the word "abuse", just "tiresome". The "I see a
warning from ucf, let's fill a bug on php5-common" finally overflew my cup
of patience (what is the correct english idiom for this?).

I have an idea – maybe we could have a pseudo-package called
"please-improve" (or whatever name we pick), where people can reassign
bugreports which they feel they are unable to handle. This pseudo-bug would
be monitored by some virtuous people[*] better in handling poor bugreports
and they would work with submitter to improve the bug report, and then
reassign it back.

This might be similar to what I have seen in Launchpad – there's a bugsquad
team that can handle all bugreports in just any package[1][2].

* - if we can find such people somewhere, but I am quite sure there are
some :).

1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
2. https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad

O.
-- 
Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org>

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