Re: NMUs for Python Policy -- please hold them a little

2006-06-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 06:43:57PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 04:33:50PM +0200, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Probably the biggest reason why I

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 12:08:17PM +0200, Rolf Kutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Quoting Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 01:52:58PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > > > > I think the more important thing to realize is that the reason we have > > -doc packages i

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 07:38:56PM +0200, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > currently "libgnutls-config --libs"' output looks like this, > -L/usr/lib -lgnutls -L/usr/lib -ltasn1 -lgcrypt -lgpg-error > listing both direct (-lgnutls) and indirect dependencies. - Its output > can

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 > "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Software suspend which exists in kernel for several years? >

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 01:25:39PM -0300, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/30/06, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 06:29:40PM +0200, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Marc Haber: > > > The machine in Question is a P3 with 1200 MHz. What's making the > > process slow is the turnaround time for the http requests, as observed > > multiple times in this thread alone. > > Then

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:09:43AM -0700, Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 10:38 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:57:54AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: > > > Kevin Bube wrote: > > > > What about switching to dvdrtools? I think this project wa

Re: Long blurbs repeated in many package descriptions considered harmful

2006-07-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 12:40:57PM +0200, Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many thanks to the KDE developers for removing the similar blurb that > they used to have. They did it nicely, and in a way that others could > follow. ... which is... ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 12:47:32AM -0400, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Just to point out that as of Firefox/Thunderbird 2 the entire codebase > > > is triple licensed under the MPL, GPL

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 07:49:31AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It might not be impossible to have it in etch (and would be preferable, > since upstream will stop support of Firefox 2 6 months after release > of Firefox 3, which is itself due Q1 2007). ... and wh

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 02:18:27AM -0400, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 12:47:32AM -0400, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > * Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 10:10:29AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last time I checked (and it was after Gerv's post), the relicensing changes > were still not applied to the MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH. Things seem to have > changed, but that needs some checking. I to

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 03:58:13PM -0400, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some examples and test files are licensed under Mozilla-sample-code. > > Uh, is that actually a license? Yes it is: BEGIN LICENSE BLOCK Version: Mozilla-sample-code 1.0 Copyright (c) 2002 Netscape Commu

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 06:49:52PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 10:10:29AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Last time I checked (and it was after Gerv's post), the relicensing changes >

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 02:50:27PM -0400, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another thing that is a bit annoying is that the LICENSE file in the > > upstream tarball is the MPL license text. It'd be better for everyone if > > they'd make it clear that everything in the tarball, except ex

Re: Bug#350468: libpcre3: install libpcre.so* in /lib

2006-07-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 07:25:25PM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 07:11:59PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > >On 2006-01-29 Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Package: libpcre3 > >>Version: 6.4-1.1 > >>Severity: wishlist > > > >>It woul

Re: Bug#350468: libpcre3: install libpcre.so* in /lib

2006-07-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 12:27:16PM +0200, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 22, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Instead of moving libpcre and making it quasi-essential, why not > > slightly modify grep so that it can dlopen libp

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 5

2006-07-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 04:39:24AM +0200, David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 06:32:54PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Steve Greenland wrote: > > > This really seems like something that while they may, very occasionally, > > > be required, are mostly unnecessary and

Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Re: Build failure: cannot find -lz

2006-07-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:16:30AM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 07:45:53PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > A number of applications currently fail to build with something like: > > > | sparc-linux-gnu-gcc -g -O2 -o .libs/ots ots.o ../src/.libs/libo

Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Re: Build failure: cannot find -lz

2006-07-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 08:27:58PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:16:30AM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 07:45:53PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > A number of app

Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Re: Build failure: cannot find -lz

2006-07-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:44:54AM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 08:27:58PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:16:30AM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul

Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Re: Build failure: cannot find -lz

2006-07-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 12:29:15PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 08:50:48PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > So yes, please re-add the dependency on libxml2-dev for the time being. > > > We're still not so much in a r

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a > > living. > > Quite. But if they take delibrate action to hurt _any_ > country, or its economy, they shall have to live with the consequences. And what is US trying to d

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Saturday 24 May 2003 00:43, Matthew Palmer wrote: > * The rest of the world is sick to death of US imperialism; > > * The US government ignores world opinion and does it's thing; > > * The rest of the world puts pressure on the US people to change things, > since they've at least got half a chan

Re: j2re1.3 plugin for mozilla isn't working.

2003-06-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thursday 19 June 2003 18:36, Thomas E. Vaughan wrote: > Has anyone else noticed this? This is due to the fact that Mozilla is now compiled with gcc 3.3, and that j2re1.3 is still compiled with gcc 2.95 ; both are incompatible. You can get a working j2re1.4 (blackdown doesn't provide 1.3 compi

Re: j2re1.3 plugin for mozilla isn't working.

2003-06-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sunday 22 June 2003 19:21, Allan Jacobsen wrote: > I have been looking for working j2re1.4 packages for some times, but > unfortunatly this does not work for me: > > isis:~/testdir/j2sdk# dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot > dpkg-buildpackage: source package is j2se1.4-i586 > dpkg-buildpackage: source

Re: Bug#203048: ITP: libapache-mod-dynvhost -- Virtual Servers in Apache based on directories. Supports cgi-bin directories and individual user homes.

2003-07-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sunday 27 July 2003 13:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This Apache module does Dynamic Virtual Servers based on directory names. > It supports user home directories and individual cgi-bin directories. When > creating a directory (and thereby a virtual server) there is no need for > restarting apa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Debian Release Plan

2003-08-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Saturday 02 August 2003 09:01, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > Secondly, we need to signal to upstream to fix up _their_ act, too. If > we can't ship, for example the latest gcc because glibc isn't ISO C > compliant and working with gcc-3.3 (see other thread), then others need > to act: glibc mainta

Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)

2003-08-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Monday 04 August 2003 23:12, Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote: > Hello, > > I just found this, maybe aîuseful read > > http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1060025253&count=1 Unfortunately, his main problem is "Having not used Debian for about 8 years". The strange thing is that he has been able to apt-get ins

Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)

2003-08-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tuesday 05 August 2003 10:33, Ian Hickson wrote: > Hey guys, > > I was amused to see my blog post [1] made it to this list. I figured > I'd clarify a few points which were omitted from that blog in the > interests of brevity and humour. > > Mike Hommey

Re: Have Linux boot with eye-candy

2003-08-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 02:38, Erich Schubert wrote: > Hi, > i have built packages for the bootsplash tools (no package for the patch > itself though. just download and apply the diff). > They are available on http://people.debian.org/~erich/boot/bootsplash/ > and work fine on my notebook as we

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 00:34, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mar 19/08/2003 à 23:33, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > Ok, let's google a bit, and shazaam ! > > http://www.linex.org/sources/linex/debian/linex/nvidia-glx_1.0.4349-1_i38 > >6.deb Oh ! non-free software !

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 02:16, Scott James Remnant wrote: > "The biggest deficiency in our free operating systems is not in the >software--it is the lack of good free manuals that we can include in >our systems. Documentation is an essential part of any software >package; when an

Re: Non-free software on linex [was Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003]

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 20:13, Hans Ekbrand wrote: > There's more of it: http://www.linex.org/sources/linex/debian/linex/ > lists acroread_4.05-3, mplayer_0.90pre5-3 > flashplugin-nonfree_6.0.79-1, hsflinmodem-linex_0.5.2-1 ... and j2re, yes, I saw that afterwards... Some are quite badly packa

Re: Debian policy about "experimental" ?

2003-09-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sunday 21 September 2003 23:10, Remi Vanicat wrote: > Why use epoch ? 1.4.0.20030921-1 should work (or am i missing something > here ?) > > epoch should only be used when needed... and it is... since current mozilla package version is 2:1.4-4 Mike -- "I have sampled every language, french is

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Monday 22 September 2003 16:53, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Mike Hommey wrote: > > helps catching 95%... But the bandwidth is still used... I'm still > > looking for a pure MTA solution... > > A pure MTA solution would still need to scan the body and thus would

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 01:45, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 12:28:44AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Maybe I'm wrong, but I think an MTA rejecting a mail because of oversized > > body doesn't have to get the whole body before rejecting the ma

Re: Accepted mini-dinstall 0.6.8 (all source)

2003-09-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Monday 29 September 2003 19:32, Graham Wilson wrote: > Changes: > mini-dinstall (0.6.8) unstable; urgency=low [...] >* Change DTD in manpage and manual to locally installed version. Why do you need that ? (X|SG)ML catalogs are your friends... Mike

Bug#318494: ITP: ieee80211-source -- Source for the 802.11 (wireless) network stack for Linux

2005-07-15 Thread Mike Hommey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ieee80211-source Version : 1.0.3 Upstream Author : James P. Ketrenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://ieee80211.sf.net/ * License : GPL v2 Description

libxslt1 / libxslt1.1 clean-up, comments welcome

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Hommey
Hello, I'm about to remove the libxslt1 package, which has been created a long time ago for backward compatibility, when upstream did screw up ABI and removed support for the libxsltbreakpoint library. Now that no package depend on it, I am going to remove it, but that leaves a libxslt1.1 package

Re: libxslt1 / libxslt1.1 clean-up, comments welcome

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:40:41PM -0500, Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:41:08PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Now that no package depend on it, I am going to remove it, but that > > leaves a libxslt1.1 package alone, not really res

Re: BTS version tracking

2005-08-14 Thread Mike Hommey
- Forwarded message from Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: BTS version tracking To: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>&g

Re: BTS version tracking

2005-08-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 03:41:43PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 02:00:04PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 12:06:29PM +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > (...) > >

Re: Closing bugs bevore the upload is available

2005-11-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 09:43:26AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > >> Today I did a update of the system (yes, sid and yes I know > > >> it can be unstable but...) and the update includes grep where > > >> no open critical bug was seen. After Boot the syste

Re: How to cope with patches sanely (Was: State of the project - input needed)

2008-01-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 10:08:29AM +0100, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le vendredi 25 janvier 2008 à 09:50 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > > As a second runner up, quilt is ok by me. :) > > > > For historical reasons I use dpatch but I'm not really happy with this. > > I would

Re: How to cope with patches sanely (Was: State of the project - input needed)

2008-01-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 11:14:24AM +0100, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 25 January 2008 11:08:13 am Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 09:55:02AM +, Jon Dowland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does anyone know how

Re: How to cope with patches sanely (Was: State of the project - input needed)

2008-01-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 09:55:02AM +, Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 10:13:37AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > The only sad thing is that quilt only deals with patches (i.e. diffs), > > whereas dpatch can do scripts, too. Anyways, I

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-01-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 05:23:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 03:44:20PM +, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > > I???d be glad if we could standardize on quilt. It is the only one to be > > > both simple and powerful

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-01-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:10:42PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 04:35:24PM +0000, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 05:23:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 03:44:20PM +, Andreas Metzler wrote: > &

Re: How to cope with patches sanely (Was: State of the project - input needed)

2008-01-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:25:49PM +0100, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > On fredagen den 25 januari 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 09:55:02AM +, Jon Dowland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 10:13:37AM +0100, Mike Hommey

Re: preparing sid/lenny to build with GCC-4.3

2008-01-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 10:53:59PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > (...) so that we have > the chance to drop gcc-4.2 for the next release (together with > gcc-3.4/g++-3.4/gcc-4.0). Except if you want to remove qemu and kvm from the archive, there are currently no chances of removing gcc-3.4. Mike

Re: preparing sid/lenny to build with GCC-4.3

2008-01-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 12:17:48PM -0200, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008 4:53 AM, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 10:53:59PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > (...) so that we have > > >

Re: Fwd: ITP: latencytop -- A tool for developers to visualize system latencies

2008-02-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:17:11PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > * Package name: latencytop > > Version : 0.3 > > Upstream Author : Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * URL : http://www.latencytop.org/ > > * License : GPL-2 > > Description : A tool for

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 05:11:43AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > With the new style of "mass tirage" of bugs, > > The user submits a bug; > while (sleep 1 year) { > He gets a message asking him to verify if the bug still exists; > He perhaps especially reinstalls the package that he long a

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 02:09:11PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Yeah, it must be really hard to be an heavy bug filer. > > > > * 1552 Outstanding > > * 136 Forwarded > > * 10

Re: conditional dependency?

2008-02-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:56:09PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Hi > > I maintain libetpan package, which build-depends on libcurl4-gnutls-dev. > Resulting library package dependency is calculated using ${shlib:Depends}, > however libdev package dependency on libcurl4-gnutls-dev is manua

Re: conditional dependency?

2008-02-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:48:21PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > While it is easy for build-dependency (just use libcurl4-gnutls-dev | > > > libcurl3-gnutls-dev), I see a problem here with libdev package > > > dependency. It should depend not on libcurl4-gnutls-dev | > > > libcurl3-gnut

Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections

2008-02-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:54:18PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Le Tuesday 26 February 2008 14:41:41 Nico Golde, vous avez écrit : > > > Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it "yet another FOSS > > > project with an animal mascot". > > > > I strongly agree, also because we already have a

Bug#468290: ITP: mozilla-dom-inspector -- tool for inspecting the DOM of pages in Mozilla-based browsers

2008-02-27 Thread Mike Hommey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: mozilla-dom-inspector Version : ?? Upstream Author : Mozilla Foundation * URL : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6622 * License : MPL/GPL/LGPL Progr

Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:10:20PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The package "perl" doesn't ship its own copy of changelog.Debian, but > > instead relies on it's dependency, perl-base. Yet, it does ship other > > stuff in /usr/share/doc/perl/, includ

Re: Bits from the listmaster team

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 03:49:30PM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Better bounce handling > ~~ > We checked our bounce handling because we have more than 500 bounces > for some lists, and in the process found that we didn't have working > bounce handling for other lists (other-*

Re: Blueray software, was: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 09:29:12AM +0100, Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:59:52PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> 2 small CDs per arch (business card, netinst) > >> ~30 CDs per arch for a full CD set > >>

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 02:21:45AM -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I guess there's an inequality like: > > > > images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo > > Is there any way we can construct the torrent image o

Re: RFC: preventing accidental deletion of system directories

2008-03-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 03:50:32PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 13:51 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > To get those Vistaesque questions, "alias rm='rm -i'" is surely not > > worth a > > package. It's slightly larger in scope, but only slightly, as > > removing > >

Re: Default value for CFLAGS/LDFLAGS set by dpkg

2008-03-31 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:09:04PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 06:57:48PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 05:34:05PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: >>> I just wondered: is it possible to reverse/disable the effects of >>> -Bsymbolic-functions if LD_PRE

Re: Default value for CFLAGS/LDFLAGS set by dpkg

2008-03-31 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:23:59PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:51:00PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: >>> According to ld(1): >>> >>> -Bsymbolic-functions >>> When creating a shared library, bind references to global functi

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-04-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 11:22:58PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > On lun, 2008-03-31 at 02:09 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > update-icon-caches/update-desktop-database would have to be made > > triggers-aware and install a triggers control file > > (e.g. interest /usr/share/icons or interest /us

Re: Announcing Dolt, a drop-in Libtool replacement which cuts build times in half

2008-04-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:34:18AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: (...) > Thus, I wrote Dolt, a drop-in replacement for libtool's compilation > mode. Dolt runs any necessary system-specific or > configuration-specific logic as part of configure, writes out a simple > shell script "doltcompile"[1], an

Re: exim, local resolver, host name lookups and IPv6

2008-04-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:41:26PM +0200, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Exim has the habit of trying to find out about its host names and IP > addresses when it starts up. This has, in the past, been an issue for > the Debian packages, since a Debian system might be on a > dial-o

Re: Plib, shared libraries issue.

2008-04-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 02:36:17PM +0200, Ove Kaaven wrote: > Bradley Smith skrev: >> 1. Should these shared libraries be built, or should it just stick to >> static libraries as upstream intended? > > There are advantages and disadvantages with either... I don't really > have a strong opinion my

Re: NMU versioning

2008-04-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:32:34AM +0200, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Vega wrote: > > "The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, where > > X is a counter starting at 1." > > I have found that NMUing native source packages is a bit tricky, as in, > what is the con

Re: NMU versioning

2008-04-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 01:01:53PM +0200, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Bastian Blank [Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:55:23 +0200]: > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > > * Mike Hommey [Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:54:59 +0200]: >

Re: db.debian.org/password.html : Why ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to setup OpenSSH for RSA

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 03:03:55PM +0200, Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2008, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > Considering recent issues, http://db.debian.org/password.html requires > > updated as "s/id_dsa.pub/id_rsa.pub/". > > My mail to d-i-a said that you need to use RS

Re: db.debian.org/password.html : Why ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to setup OpenSSH for RSA

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:11:30PM +0200, Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 03:03:55PM +0200, Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 May 2008, Osamu

Re: db.debian.org/password.html : Why ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to setup OpenSSH for RSA

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:30:40PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2008, Norbert Preining wrote: > > > On Do, 15 Mai 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > I beg to differ. This particular mail is important enough to be sent to > > > d-d-a instead of d-i-a

Re: ssl security desaster

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 03:27:42PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > Russ Allbery wrote: > > Martin Uecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> In this case, the security advisory should clearly be updated. And all > >> advise about searching for weak keys should be removed as well, because > >> it leads

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:45:20AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2008/5/16 martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Lucas Nussbaum threw the idea of having a webpage with posisbly > > annotated patches for each Debian package on *.debian.org at me the > > other day, in response to the OpenSSL deba

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 05:13:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:27:03 +0300, George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Friday 16 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > >> Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> > I totally agree that we need to make our changes more visible. In > >>

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:51:22AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 17 May 2008 11:40:43 +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > > > Le vendredi 16 mai 2008 à 17:08 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > >> diffing the tips of branches in a SCM has been far more friendly. So

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:40:53PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 05:04:56PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:24:13 +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > said: > > > > > > > (publishing my branch in a gitweb) isn't normalized, and won't

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 05:01:08PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > What if we just decide that changes made to upstream sources[1] qualify > as a bug? A change might be a bug in upstream, or in the debianisation, > or in Debian for requiring the change. But just call it a bug. > Everything else follows f

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:08:06PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 09:01:08PM +, Joey Hess wrote: > > What if we just decide that changes made to upstream sources[1] qualify > > as a bug? > > WTF ? What's the point of free software if we invent rules for not > modifyi

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 05:21:52PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > The BTS would also need something to make it easier to spot patches in a > > bug. Patch tracking is one of the few things bugzilla is not bad at, for > > instance. > > I guess you

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 02:50:33PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Also, these aren't bugs in the Debian package, but rather bugs in upstream > (at least arguably), which put them into a different brainspace than > Debian bugs at least for me, and I'd find it awkward and confusing to have > them mixed

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 07:14:31PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > At some point, we will need to find a way to decide which v3 format we > > are going to choose in adddition to the v3 (native) format (with a GR?). > > We can't afford to allow several different v3 formats to coe

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:19:31AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 17 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > > > > Coming up with a complex set of requirements that everyone has to follow > > > > up front in their workflow[1] is n

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:03:17PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 09:39:07AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Sat, 17 May 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > >... glibc without patches can't work. > > > > Isn't this the best support for Joey's proposal? > > A software wh

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 04:44:29PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 18/05/08 at 11:27 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:19:31AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > > > > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 04:54:28PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 18/05/08 at 16:48 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 04:44:29PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > On 18/05/08 at 11:27 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > On Sun, May 18, 200

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:55:00AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2008/5/19 Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Because the git format is imho conceptualy broken and the > > implementation is far from completely thought out. The strongest > > point against it is that the user has to learn

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 09:58:55AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:42:54 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Hmm. You say things like this: > > Because the git format is imho conceptualy broken and the > > implementation is far from complet

Re: FYI: VCS choice these days

2008-05-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 03:10:14PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 21-May-08, 11:15 (CDT), Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, (Composed as UTF-8 mail with graphic characters) > > > > I have been trying to update debian reference. As a part of this > > effort, I made snapshot of pop

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 02:05:02PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 05:52:13PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote: > > I demand that Alexander E. Patrakov may or may not have written... > > > > > Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > >> That already has a problem: How to define "large"? One way,

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 02:27:11AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 07:20 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On 2008-06-16, William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That doesn't strike me as a valid configuration. Infact, it shouldn't > > > work with lilo because l

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:54:52AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > William Pitcock wrote: >> >> It seems like moving to grub for everything may be a good choice on the >> archs where lilo is used. >> > Lilo has one killer feature that is totally missing from GRUB - the -R > option. It allows m

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:53:22AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 02:27:11AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 07:20 +, Sune Vuorela

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:57:32AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > We still very regularly get installation reports where people use lilo > rather than grub, so it must still have a fairly significant user base. I > would say that the activity on the bug report shows the same. OTOH, aren't most of the

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:28:36PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 18 juin 2008 à 09:52 +0300, Eric Pozharski a écrit : > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:19:03AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > OTOH, aren't most of these choosing lilo over grub only

Re: terminfo files getting installed executable, but how? (was: Failing daily D-I builds?)

2008-06-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:09PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > This is very strange. Let's see if the friendly folks on d-devel can help. > > Cheers, > FJP > > On Friday 20 June 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > > But there should be no reason for these terminfo files to be > > executable. And if I rebuild

Re: RFC: Idea for improved diversions and alternatives handling

2008-06-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:05:53PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Steve Langasek writes ("Re: RFC: Idea for improved diversions and > alternatives handling"): > > Declarative diversions are a much-needed enhancement to dpkg; there are > > cases one cannot deal with on upgrade without rm'ing one's own

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