s? I know for sure that Pre-Depends exists
just for the cases where order _does_ matter. But I've never had problems in
installing packages in any order (or probably I've just been lucky).
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Il giorno Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:30:48 +0100
Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 02:54:20PM +0100, David Paleino wrote:
> > Il giorno Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:04:52 -0300
> > Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> >
> &
for cyclists, but it can also be used for other
resistance sports like running, swimming, skiing, and so on. Pytrainer
is also able to generate detailed graphs and statistics with data
retrieved from GPS-provided fitness devices.
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I'm not a native English speaker, but this sounds b
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:26:15 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 11303 March 1977, David Paleino wrote:
>
> > Ehm... using a better wording?
>
> I wont. Its an RFP, and I just copied the text from upstreams
> homepage. Whoever packages it might take whatever they want.
Oops,
And here's where `apt-get -f install' enters the scene! Nothing wrong :)
Congratulations for your first package! ;)
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you present your packages to
others in a way that makes it easier for them to work on.
This argument assumes that dpkg-source -x will apply that patch stack
automatically as well, which has been discussed elsewhere.
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just not practical to be a casual contributor to a
> monolithic package like OOo.
Indeed, this is something I can appreciate, since I simply wasn't able to
work on X for years because I didn't have the machine resources to build a
full tree. What I think we need to do is figu
those who make heavy use of usertags could get together and form
some sort of consensus standard so that outsiders to the team could find
out common information without having to hunt down the team's specific
documentation, it'd help enormously.
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actually fixing the bug yourself then everyone, including yourself, would
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:37:37PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > This is something that's been bugging me for a while now. As our
> > software packages get larger and larger, we need more people to take
> > them
, and the
> package maintainer doesn't react to it, then the janitors can look at
> it. They could look at old bugs in general, of course.
Does this actually work for the kernel? I love the idea, but for X.org the
janitor idea has failed miserably so far.
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ill apply that patch stack
> > automatically as well, which has been discussed elsewhere.
>
> Currently vapourware, no?
This thread is partially about how to implement this very feature, so
calling it vapor while it's still being planned is unfair.
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tate of such integration is not maintained
> >> in the feature branches; it is in the history of the integration
> >> branch.
>
> > Is this (the integration branch and its history of changes) not the
> > linear sequence of changes that David Nusinow is asking
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 06:08:17PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The problem is that you and Manoj assume that this is the only way to do
> > things. I don't believe this. Pierre Habouzit has been experimenting
>
ad Sams mail I immediatly thought of
> > it. Maybe it's good idea to renew the drawing (and keep the basic
> > idea/look), but IMHO thats all.
>
> Can anyone please give an URL for this picture?
I believe what they're talking about can be seen on http://lintian.d
r,
so this is a red herring. Once you've resolved the conflict, then it
becomes just another change. This change can become a diff in a stack of
diffs.
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> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:34:55 +1100, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
[...]
I'd really rather see something nicer than an ant as a mascot. :)
How about a cockroach? Beautifully engineered, indestructable, and
they're *everywhere*...
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> httpd options, etc.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html
I wish we had some more of this sort of thinking in our own project and a
little less of yours. Maybe then we'd have fewer bugs in the packages
people actually care about and use.
-
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> On 03/01/08 06:51, David Nusinow wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 08:02:39PM -0600, William Pitcock wrote:
> >> Why does a package need to clarify wha
new and different. Yes, there are valid reasons for
providing options, but doing so makes it more difficult to do the important
things that actually need to be done to produce a high quality
distribution.
This is, not coincidentally, one of the many reasons why so many people
flock to Ubuntu rather than Debian.
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tweight X11 Desktop Environment).
> .
> It's desktop-independent and can be used with any window manager.
> .
> As "session manager" it remembers the applications in use when you
> logout, and restart the applications when you log back in.
What's the difference betw
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 02:10:36AM +0800, Andrew Lee wrote:
> David Nusinow wrote:
> > What's the difference between this and xsm?
>
> It well-integrated with LXDE and other modern desktop environments, the
> difference between this and xsm are:
> * Removed the sessio
uch want justification for lots of the details when making
changes and I wish we had a strong history going back those 20 years.
Sortware like dpkg will probably be with us for another 30 years at the
rate we're going. Who're you to say that the history in the logs won't be
important?
Michael Biebl wrote:
[...]
> Add update-initramfs to that list. It can take quite some time to
> regenerate the initramfs. Packages that update the initramfs are e.g.
> udev, cryptsetup or uswsusp, splashy/usplash
*raises hand*
Before it blew up, my old NSLU2 (a 266MHz ARM with 32MB RAM) used to
anywhere because I don't know where to do
> so, or if perhaps new code needs to be written to accommodate this
> scenario.
Please submit a wishlist bug report against cryptsetup and I'll take a
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:48:26 +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * David Paleino [Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:26:08 +0200]:
>
> > it didn't give me much
> > problems. Sometimes happened that an upgrade failed (probably it could be
> > handled better via postinst), so I had t
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:48:26 +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * David Paleino [Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:26:08 +0200]:
>
> > it didn't give me much
> > problems. Sometimes happened that an upgrade failed (probably it could be
> > handled better via postinst), so I had t
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:14:57 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> David Paleino wrote:
>
> > Firstly, it's not obsolete, since we only have sysvinit available (if we had
> > upstart, or something similar to initng, I could've agreed here -- and
> > upstart in Debian is
certainly something
> > that should, from the start, be maintained by more than one person.
>
> What's the status here? Is there a team being setup, or anybody else
> working on gnupg?
If a team is being setup, I'd like to be added as well (hanska-guest on Alioth).
Dav
s that it should have a manpage. But, it's a *should*. On the other
hand, I know that many "entities" which are not in $PATH have their own manpage
-- see for example Perl modules.
How should I behave here?
Kindly,
David
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[1] http://bugs.debia
On Sun, 11 May 2008 00:36:00 +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> Twas brillig at 19:18:39 10.05.2008 UTC+02 when David Paleino did gyre and
> gimble:
>
> DP> How should I behave here?
>
> I'd treat john-any and john-mmx as parts of program - merely
> implementation de
On Sat, 10 May 2008 17:52:43 +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 07:18:39PM +0200, David Paleino wrote:
> >This suggests that it should have a manpage. But, it's a *should*. On the
> >other hand, I know that many "entities" which are not in $
egit to do so).
Unfortunately, step d) was *also* removed by that patch. And therein lies
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> I'll no longer be maintaining the following packages. I plan to orphan
> them next week and hope to find new maintainers for them before then.
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> rss2email
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> What's an extra few MB plus parsing overhead when "everyone" has
> 250GB HDDs, multi-core 64-bit CPUs and 2+GB RAM?
Well, and what about !i386, !amd64 and !powerpc ? ;)
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> The user may have
> imported the configuration from some other machine, or intend to use the
> configuration elsewhere. The usefulness of user configuration is
> therefore not tied to the installed state of the package on this system.
Particularly since the user may h
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ogram better, we shouldn't force our preferences on people. GRUB and
LILO fall into the category of Gnome vs. KDEeverybody has an opinion
on what they like best. It doesn't nessicarily mean that one is really
that much better than the other.
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Bernd Schubert wrote:
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*i18n_Translation* files
> are available. Then, for every such file, it tries to extract the
> translated description, and then index them.
I'm not that good at Python, but I had some experience in parsing those files
(for the Debian-Med project, together with Andreas Tille).
I'll have
and the answer would be *no*).
The event will be held on 26-28 September, at ASK191 in Palermo.
If you're going to attend it, just drop me a mail, we can arrange for a
keysigning :)
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e. 60 characters maximum.
What you wrote could well be used for the long description.
Kindly,
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At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:24:06 +0200,
Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Which obviously hadn't been updated in *years*. RT*appropriate*FM.
> Would you be kind enough to actually quote the document (URL) which
> you call 'appropriate'
As sever
At Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:00:50 +0200,
Guido Günther wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 07:24:20PM +0100, James Westby wrote:
> > Guido Günther wrote:
> > > Which isn't a problem on patch-queue branches since you either can
> > > recreate them anytime from what's in debian/patches or simply ammend the
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500
>> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> * updated Standards-Version (no changes needed)
>
> Firstly, you do not ahve to put that into the changelog, and,
> secondly, one should not have t
Daniel Moerner wrote:
> On 08/12/2009 03:01 PM, David Claughton wrote:
>> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500
>>>> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>>> * updated
Can anyone explain if/why stlport is still useful? Given the low
popcon, and small number of rdepends, could this be a candidate for
removal?
all the best,
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Hi Frans Pop & debian-devel,
> Thanks! David Kalnischkies and I were able to reproduce a crash for
> sources that had no Packages file. This is fixed with the 0.7.23.1
For anybody further interested in the bug:
Something like a index-out-of-bounce, but libapt didn't access th
d on slower systems.
Really? Never thought that there is a noticeable difference between the
two compression types if you add the increased downloadtime to gzip,
but i never tried/measured it... will be added to the news sidenote.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
David
Internet is not available
> everywhere, so at least an easy way to get an offline copy of these
> would be useful.
Or use the developers-reference package, which you can install anytime (and
which is the best choice IMHO).
I'm looking at the BTS, and see how I can help.
David
unication.
The only counter-example I can think of is when maintainers decide to be
jerks and play bug ping-pong, in which case we have an entirely
different problem.
I, for one, would much prefer to have the submitter always CC'ed by default.
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ommands but also all the
documentation and write its own howtos and blogs. Also somehow
we would need to subvert Google so it finds our copies for Debian users.
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On Tuesday 29 September 2009, Frank Küster wrote:
> David Goodenough wrote:
> > I am a newcommer to this particular bit of policy, but it occurs to me
> > that the answer is to add links to the original commands to conform to
> > Debian standards while leaving the ups
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I guess that is not right :)
> Description : a framework for constructing parallel
branch-cut-price algorithms for mixed-integer linear programs
Are you
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> might want to reuse some of its code for a pure IMAP server.
You might want to, but AFAICT you would not be able to distribute the
result if the user cannot be told how to get the source to the AGPL
parts you included. That doesn't mean the original software isn't DFSG
free, at least
The Fungi wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:28:59PM +0000, David Claughton wrote:
> [...]
>> You might want to, but AFAICT you would not be able to distribute
>> the result if the user cannot be told how to get the source to the
>> AGPL parts you included. That doesn'
The Fungi wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:07:12PM +0000, David Claughton wrote:
> [...]
>> It is always possible to modify free software in ways that effectively
>> make it non-free - for example if you remove all the copyright
>> statements from a BSD covered progr
David Claughton wrote:
> The Fungi wrote:
>> goes a great deal further than this, by *requiring* you to become a
>> distributor of software you use, even if you only do something so
>> simple as make a minor modification to an AGPL-covered work
>> providing a network
Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * David Claughton [091113 21:42]:
>> Now this could certainly involve more extensive modifications than you
>> might otherwise want to do, and you might well decide it's not worth the
>> effort. However I'm still not entirely convinced i
Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * David Claughton [091114 12:43]:
>> I agree this makes the license problematic and might make developers
>> choose to avoid working on AGPL code - however as I said above, all
>> licenses put some limits on what you can modify, some more than other
Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> As I said: I do not see a difference between a license that does not
> give me some right (or even tries to take away some rights copyright law
> does not take away) and a license which theoretically grant it but puts
> so many restrictions in it that one practically does
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Tim Abbott wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
>> >
>> > 1) patch the debian cddlib package to produce a third library,
>> >libcdd_gmp (or whatever) that can be linked together with
>> >libcdd. This basically migrates the polymake abi changes to the
>> >debian p
tion, or would the axe fall on the individual maintainer?
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Hello people,
per the DEP process described at http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep0/, this is
the first call for comments on this proposal.
Title: Meta-Package debian/control field
DEP: 6
State: DRAFT
Date: 2009-12-20
Drivers: David Paleino , Luca Bruno
David Paleino wrote:
> Hello people,
> per the DEP process described at http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep0/, this is
> the first call for comments on this proposal.
>
> Title: Meta-Package debian/control field
> DEP: 6
> [..]
Here's the full
Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
> Hello,
Hello Eugene,
thanks for your feedback.
> David Paleino wrote:
>> Implementation
> [...]
>> ### Package managers ###
> [...]
>> If any dependant package is a meta-package, as defined by this
>> document, it should **N
Andreas Metzler wrote:
> David Paleino wrote:
> [...]
>> With the *autoremove* command being now widely used, it can become
>> difficult for a user to install a meta-package but some packages it
>> depends on.
>
> I do not understand this, is there a word missing?
nd well established feature looks like a criminal
> act, at best ;-)
What if we added "apart from metapackages, identified by Meta-Package: yes"?
I'm not yet seeing any strong argument against this DEP, but I'm clearly
biased ;)
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Andreas Metzler wrote:
> David Paleino wrote:
>> Andreas Metzler wrote:
> [...]
>> I hope no-one ever depends on a meta-package.
>> Do you have any real case for this?
> [...]
>
> kde depends on kde-core.
And both are metapackages.
(apart from the fact that I
on_compliant_tool .
Other than this, we could carefully plan this change, so that we're sure
that before any metapackage uses this field, the Policy get changed and all
current tools support it.
Kindly,
David
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Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 05:06:39PM +0100, David Paleino wrote:
>> In fact, when removing any dependency of the meta-package, it gets
>> removed as well, and all other dependencies become *leaf packages* that
>> autoremove will try to remove from the sy
Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:30:04PM +0100, David Paleino wrote:
>> > Ubuntu defines a special archive section, 'metapackages', which results
>> > in special tagging/handling of the Depends and Recommends of the
>> > package so
Roland Mas wrote:
> David Paleino, 2009-12-21 09:13:17 +0100 :
>
> [...]
>
>> I mean, meta-packages should *always* have their Recommends installed,
>> otherwise they have no point in existing.
>
> If it's *always*, then… isn't your proposal point
David Paleino wrote:
> [..]
> So you're suggesting me to also do a "wicd" task.
> In experimental I have "wicd" depending on wicd-daemon + wicd-curses|wicd-
> gtk -- (it's a simple case, where the user might manually choose the
> components, but it
ange this DEP to propose a new field, halfway betwen Recommends
and Depends (as weasel suggested, Weak-Depends), but haven't carefully
thought at it yet.
David
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Rene Engelhard wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:35PM +0100, David Paleino wrote:
>> However, seems like on IRC we reached kind of a consensus on the fact
>> that metapackages should use Recommends instead of Depends. I plan to do
>> a mass- bug filing on this issue
Steve Langasek wrote:
> Or do you really mean that you expect the package manager to treat removal
> of 'wicd' differently based on whether the removal is triggered by
> 'apt-get remove wicd' vs. 'apt-get remove dependency-of-wicd'?
Exactly that, plus the fact that it is a metapackage.
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> debian-patches - what you call 'patches'
> maemo5 - contains the debian/ dir, but for Maemo 5
> maemo5-patches - patches for Maemo 5, might be based on top of debian-patches
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