Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * David Claughton <d...@eclecticdave.com> [091113 21:42]: >> Now this could certainly involve more extensive modifications than you >> might otherwise want to do, and you might well decide it's not worth the >> effort. However I'm still not entirely convinced it makes the license >> non-free. > > If the license makes running a locally modified version not worth the > efford, that is a very strong indication it is not free at all. >
Well, as long as it's not on a public server and you don't distribute your version you are free to do what you want with the code AFAICT. > My biggest problem is still that the licence forbits sloppy code. Not > every modification is suitable for everybody. For example never having > passwords in your code or other details about your infrastructure you do > not want published is a sign of good code. Being required to implement > some configuration file handling to keep your changes out of the source > so those details are not published basicly means not having the right to > do quick and dirty modifications[2]. I agree this makes the license problematic and might make developers choose to avoid working on AGPL code - however as I said above, all licenses put some limits on what you can modify, some more than others, at least if you want to distribute the result. > And without the right to do quick and > dirty modifications you cannot speak about a right to modify in my eyes > at all. No, I don't agree with this. Don't get me wrong, the requirement that you have to make potentially large time-consuming modifications to one part of the code in order to make a one-line change elsewhere doesn't entirely sit well with me either. I just don't think this is sufficient to make the license non-free. > > Let's take this to some extreme: What about software with a license that > forbids you running it unless you published your changes in a > peer-reviewed scientific journal? > I hope we all agree that at least that would be non-free. Yes, that would breach DFSG 5 and possibly 6 as not everyone would be able to do that. However the AGPL does not limit who can make modifications so this isn't a good analogy. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org