> I'm not sure that frontends are usually started when downloading raw
> .debs from the net, though.
Indeed, with Epiphany browser or Chrome, no front-end is proposed despite the
media type is indicated in the HTTP headers. I consider it a bug. With
Iceweasel, it worked.
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I attached again a plain version of the media type declaration.
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ive" to Debian. In that sense, I do
not see the point for forbidding to use non-"native" version numbers with
"non-native" dpkg formats.
The 3.0 (native) format is useful when packaging a work that is developped and
distributed in a Git repository. Please leave us this
in the 3.0 (native) format to use non-native version
number.
Alternatively, please rename the "3.0 (native)" format to "3.0 (tarball)" or
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Can you clarify whether you will lead the transition, or whether you found
somebody elese to do it, or what your plan is if you do not find somebody to do
it ?
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> I'll gladly do that.
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> deal with both path names.
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you already have commit access to the Debian Med packages, like all other
Debian developers. Please go ahead !
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> > you already have commit access to the Debian Med packages, like all other
> > Debian developers. Please go ahead !
>
> There was adoption of DEP-
I would much prefer to resolve that issue before sending it.
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le would not find it useful and would rather clone an upstream Git
repository than apt-get-sourcing the not-always latest source from our archive.
Therefore, more than ever, it is on the binary packages that we must commit on
the highest level. The upstream source tarball matters much less.
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e preferred form for modification because they do not contain the
typical revision information and comments found in version control systems used
upstream. This was not the case when Debian was founded, but as the world
evolves, we need to evolve.
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I agree with your suggestions.
If there are no further comments I will submit the media type after
correcting the points below.
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Le Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 03:22:38AM +0100, Guillem Jover a écrit :
>
> This still seems confusing, “Debian forma
Le Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 04:07:33PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
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>
> I agree with your suggestions.
>
> If there are no further comments I will submit the media type after
> correcting the points below.
For the record, here is the latest version.
o this message, as this tag is already in
the subject line.
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Email : ple...@debian.org
MIME media type name : Application
MIME s
hat it would
be better to base them on Sid (or Jessie when appropriate, which would not be
the case here).
Or if you base your reports on Ubuntu, could you add a filter that checks
the version numbers and helps you to reduce the false positives ?
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something wrong. Don't we use
debhelper and CDBS to have reasonable defaults ? Are there more packages that
fail to build after autoreconf, than packages that fail to build without ?
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it
migrate, and it was cancelled by porters who wanted to fix a bug affecting their
architecture instead of having the package removed on that architecture. Thus,
I do spend time on my packages which do not migrate from un
, pulseaudio and foo-player
> + conflicts against bar-studio-desktop
> + postinst script asks foo-player to use PulseAudio.
>
> How could such postinst scripts look?
Hi Jonas,
If the maintainer scripts of the three packages can cooperate, have you
considered using Dpk
f targets so large that this level of coordination is not
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> On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > things are too slow or not happening is the lack of manpower. See for
> > example
> > the documentation of the Dpkg triggers: we miss o
ve
after the maintainers abandon them or Debian altogether.
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why a tag tends to be ignored by a large number of package maintainers.
For example, I am very tempted to start to override hyphen-used-as-minus-sign
tags with a justification such as “Never going to work; will not spend my time
on this; others may do as they wish”.
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give Debian a strong momentum on that use case. Of course, I understand that
implementing this properly is a lot of work.
PS: I started to read about Nix, thanks for the link. This is exciting.
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Le Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:11:58PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
> > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
> > &g
xdg/2013-December/012969.html>
I volunteer to contact them in case the idea takes momentum here.
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c) Focus our requirements for source code on the binary packages and the files
necessary to rebuild them from the source packages.
People know which one is my favorite, so I will not repeat it here :)
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it is run, and this happens each time files change in
/usr/lib/mime/packages
and /usr/share/applications…
Any recommendation ? In the absence of answer, I think that I will implement
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olution of the toolchain. Can't
we have a GCC foundation that takes care of this ? I will be happy to donate
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your answer exemplifies very well what I mean with “pressed by the machine”…
I will reply on one point only.
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> Am 06.05.2014 03:05, schrieb Charles Plessy:
> >
> > When the first mass rebuilds with
p://pts.debian.net/).
People who have time to give but do not have the right skill set to work on
Alioth or Mailman may consider helping the new PTS instead.
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Said differently, judging from what is written in the long threads here, people
who do not want systemd seem to be running servers or exotic desktop systems,
so how about only sending a debconf prompt in these cases ?
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> reinclude thes files again instead of using an epoch to reactivate the
> old tarball. What do you think?
Usually releases are on July 15th. I think that we can wait for the next
upload, at that time or earlier, to re-introduce the manual.
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-mime-info and file packages,
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> best-tested path.
Perhaps we can stop overriding this option ? For a lot of scientific
packages, -O3 is chosen by the upstream author, and I always feel bad
that if we make the programs slower by overriding it to -O2, it will
reflect poorly on Debian as a distribution for
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>
> > Perhaps we can stop overriding this option ? For a lot of scientific
> > packages, -O3 is chosen by the upstream author, and I always feel
, not the
reverse. In that sense, occasional failures to build, while not a goal by
themselves, are an inevitable byproduct of increasing our workforce. Automated
reporting of build failures can circumvent the nuisance to the package
maintainers themselves.
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t file on
collab-maint. (And I also support deprecating the non-use of VCS for managing
source packages).
The biggest difficulty would be to agree on field names. The best would be to
be compatible with some pre-existing RDF ontologies, like DOAP.
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> On 04/07/2011 10:11 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > http://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamMetadata
> >
> > The key concept is to store ‘Field: value’ data in a file called
> > debian/upstream-metadata.yaml, an
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>
> GCC usually has a twelve months release cycle, so you'll see the
> next set of missing include headers in spring 2012, and in Debian,
> if unstable isn't frozen by this time.
Thanks for the information.
I just got a bug from
49#85, I am
proposing the following:
- urgency=emergency: no communication needed.
- urgency=high: normal upload if no activity for 7 days.
- urgency=medium: DELAYED/2 if no activity for 7 days.
- urgency=low: ask first.
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> I would be happy if we could stop discussing what today is just spilled milk,
> given that one way or another this matter has been settled.
To clarify, Enrico wrote that “the hands of FD were rather tied” by the 2008
GR, an
dpkg!
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)
E: Failed to execute "/bin/rm": No such file or directory
E: apt-get dist-upgrade failed
The schroot is now broken. I have not tested to upgrade on my system to see if
it would do the same ;)
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to make sure that the successful build will still be successful after the GCC
patch is reverted.
Is there an easy way we can suggest to our upstreams to re-enable the errors ?
That may be useful for them to update their code.
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erybody,
in the meantime or in addition, the BTS could be used to track the requests for
upload and the package reviews. Here is a simple proposal that combines this
plus a an approach based on mutual reviews.
http://wiki.debian.org/PackageReview
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Hello everybody,
in echo to Raphaël's question about the use of a VCS together with the 3.0
(quilt) format, I was just wondering, what is needed to have 3.0 (git)
acceptable in Debian, and how can we solve this ?
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Le Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 10:54:53PM +, The Fungi a écrit :
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 05:53:06PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 08:02:34PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > > shuffle will randomize the order of lines in a file. In other
> >
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ckage's copyright file.
For the files distributed in autoconf packages, it seems informally accepted to
ignore them completely. But there are no written guidelines explaining how
this tolerance can be expanded or not to other autogenerated files.
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m as well, and they may have a
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such files would help to progress towrards a procedure to create AMIs using
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m2crypto package, and could take the
opportunity of an update to upload a package with an extended maintainer list.
Would you agree, and would there be other developers interested in maintaining
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I'll have a look at the
> bug reports and upload a new version in the next week or two.
Hi Dima,
thanks for the answer ! I will go ahead with the upload soon. But do not
hesitate to look at the bug reports, especially if you had contacts earlier
with Upstream.
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> Le Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 11:58:48PM +0100, Dima Barsky a écrit :
> >
> > Sorry for the delay, I was away for a while. I have to admit, I have not
> > paid
> > much attention to m2crypto lately, so if y
Le Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:17:04PM +, Philipp Kern a écrit :
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> >
> >
> > # Matt Rodriguez, LBNL
> > #Copyright (c) 2003, The Regents of t
possibilities I
see:
- In python-modules, with Subversion, or
- in collab-maint, with Git.
Dima or anybody else interested in participating, please let me know your
preferences. Otherwise I think I will go for collab-maint with Git.
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es a
combination of equivs and apt-get -f install, but on the other hands it means
that it will not be able to allow to distinguish Build-Depends and
Build-Recommends, as apt-get -f install does not seem to install Recommends by
default.
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the files in /usr/share/doc, especially when they are all contained in a
dedicated package that is not dispensable.
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ages to be resilient to the absence of
one of the components featured in their regression tests.
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@tomoyo
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Le Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:51:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> just for the record, this proposition looks very similar to another
> proposition about « conditional recommends » in May this year.
>
> https://lists.debian.org/1305977099.4715.47.camel@tomoyo
Here is
d (and maybe also GUI and *-RPC).
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an intellectual
work.
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for instance cloud-utils (http://bugs.debian.org/622946).
There is no indication that the certificate is not redistributable, and there
is at least one other project that redistributes it (Ubuntu, in the euca2ools
package).
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package uses extensively the word “paragraph” instead of “stanza”, perhaps you
could either update the terminology in your documentation or add a note that
stanza and parargraph are synonymous.
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-
ient testing on the architectures that are not reported
to be used upstream nor in their users community. I think we would benefit of
a system that acknowledges this, and should have more flexibility for taking it
into account when deciding where we spend our time.
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ding time supporting packages on architectures unless there is evidence
that somebody will actually use these particular packages.
Charles
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he DEP you followed.
Bue anyway, the DEP is not changing much. What I personally do with my
packages is to use http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ without mentionning any
revision. You can also read more opinions in the following thread:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/09/msg00084.htm
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ms as intermediate revisions are available. To this
paraphrasing of our Social Contract, I would add that 3.0 (git) also fits with
another Debian ideal, technical excellence.
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