On Fri, 2025-03-07 at 09:51 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > I have prepared a stub for a "Gateway to NEW" on Salsa:
> >
> > https://salsa.debian.org/newgateway-team
Le Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 06:00:55PM +0800, Maytham Alsudany a écrit :
> Am I correct in assuming that each package to be reviewed
Am Donnerstag, dem 13.03.2025 um 02:37 +0100 schrieb Dirk Lehmann:
> GPU shaders should be clearly respected as software (and not
> hardware). Therefore, `intel-media-va-driver-non-free` is rightly in
> the Debian archive `non-free`.
First of all, I completely agree that:
1. shaders are computer
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 05:23:00PM +0100, NoisyCoil wrote:
> oss4-dev is fine (unless diversions of files in linux-libc-dev are
> forbidden): oss4-dev is correctly diverting the header, as a consequence it
> needs not Break or Conflict with linux-libc-dev.
linux-libc-dev defines the interface the
On Saturday, March 15, 2025 7:41:02 AM Mountain Standard Time Antonio Terceiro
wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:49:26PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> >On Wednesday, March 12, 2025 5:38:40 PM Mountain Standard Time Mario
> >Limonciello>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >Mario Limonciello (hints o
Hi,
On Mon, 2025-03-10 at 10:57 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> I don't think the above fully resolve my concerns though. The mere
> presence of official documented hooks to load non-free software is
> problematic from a freedom perspective.
Maybe a "free" version of Debian could be provided wit
Simon Richter writes:
> their questionable choices in buying hardware that ships with non-free
> firmware
Is there hardware that ships with free firmware? Seriously.
Bjørn
On Fri Mar 14, 2025 at 9:49 PM GMT, Soren Stoutner wrote:
I am planning on proposing a GR, but I want to take the time to make
sure I word it well. I expect to be able to do so in the next few
days.
Short of a GR, you could determine who "owns" the CoC at the moment:
it's not clearly a Debia
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Question: Should uncoordinated NMUs unilaterally choose Salsa as the VCS
for a package?
I ask because one of my packages was NMUed earlier today. I have listed
myself in the LowThresholdNmu wiki page (that is, any packages for which
I am the sole maintainer). However, I did not think that placing
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:49:26PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
On Wednesday, March 12, 2025 5:38:40 PM Mountain Standard Time Mario Limonciello
wrote:
>Mario Limonciello (hints of format=flowed support)
Thanks for the summary. I am of the camp of f=f.
At least with the MUA I'm using m
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Because the primary interaction that most people have with
Debian is through email, changing the way that interaction works
is a big enough issue that I don’t see any other appropriate way
of making it outside of a GR.
Given we've never established this by way of a GR, the
Am Samstag, dem 15.03.2025 um 07:47 -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
> It’s important enough to me.
Not important enough to fix your formatting and encoding, it appears.
Regards
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On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 02:54:32PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> On 3/6/25 2:09 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > so if the/a team says they cannot handle new members right now and thus
> > there should be no big announcement asking for new members, I very much
> > think this should be respected and no
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сб, 15 мар. 2025 г. в 20:36, Alexander Wirt :
> Am Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 08:38:03PM +0100 schrieb Alexander Wirt:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I will do a security upgrade for salsa right now, please expect some
> > service outage(s).
> And we are back.
>
> Thanks for your patience
>
> Alex
>
>
On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:10:49AM +, Stephan Verbücheln wrote:
> Arguments for this:
>1. The shaders are loaded into the GPU, very much like firmware.
Shaders are not what makes the device function. You need the firmware
first.
>2. They are not linked into any libraries or applicati
Am Montag, dem 03.03.2025 um 14:42 -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
> Interesting. I guess that text could be interpreted as “Do not send
> an HTML part, even if you also send a plain text part.”
Are you serious? That does not make any sense.
> Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain tex
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:58:50 +0100, Hakan Bayındır wrote:
> > On 12 Mar 2025, at 18:09, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Mar 12, Hakan Bayındır wrote:
> >> If we think that a shader is a firmware, any software running on the
> >> second socket on a system is also a firmware, since the program is
> >>
Yay!
I'm happy to beta-test this. Exactly what features are required from
dgit to be able to use tag2upload? Maybe I can offer myself to vet the
process as a package maintainer that only minimally uses dgit, assuming
that I can manage to install and get dgit to work on my machine. A
simple 'dpk
Hi Sean,
Quoting Sean Whitton (2025-03-15 02:49:58)
> - (At least some of) the packages are uploaded relatively often.
with the upcoming freeze, I do not expect too many uploads to be necessary (but
can be done if needed). But is that a problem?
> - You already use dgit to upload.
The wiki page
I've recently been trying to help rescue a package that is dropped for
Trixie, partly for technical reasons (source package split means a round
trip through NEW) and party for license reasons (some uncertainty about
copyright of some icons, which have been in the archive for decades, but
since
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On Mon Mar 10, 2025 at 1:41 PM GMT, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
My groff/troff reply to your earlier suggestion of this was only
somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Markdown isn't a singular clearly-specified
syntax, but a family of them with several popular flavors in
widespread use (as Timo's parser option c
Hi,
On 3/15/25 22:58, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Description : next generation config management
[...]
Can you reword the description so that it reads less like an
advertisement? "next generation", compared to what?
Simon
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On 3/9/25 9:20 PM, Ansgar 🙀 wrote:
What is the point of this then?
If I understood the argument of FSF correctly, the point is, having the
same freedom as the hardware manufacturer to modify or not modify. In
case of hardware without firmware (or fused firmware that cannot be
modified furt
On Saturday, March 15, 2025 3:08:01 AM Mountain Standard Time Stephan
Verbücheln
wrote:
> Am Montag, dem 03.03.2025 um 14:42 -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
> > Interesting. I guess that text could be interpreted as “Do not send
> > an HTML part, even if you also send a plain text part.”
>
> Are
On Saturday, March 15, 2025 2:53:28 AM Mountain Standard Time Jonathan Dowland
wrote:
> On Fri Mar 14, 2025 at 9:49 PM GMT, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > I am planning on proposing a GR, but I want to take the time to make
> > sure I word it well. I expect to be able to do so in the next few
> > days
Hi Soren,
On Sat Mar 15, 2025 at 3:47 PM CET, Soren Stoutner wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2025 7:41:02 AM Mountain Standard Time Antonio
Terceiro wrote:
Please don't. Mobilizing the entire project to discuss and vote on
the exact format for sending plain text email is ridiculous. That
silent
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 05:23:54PM -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 4:34 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > Question: Should uncoordinated NMUs unilaterally choose Salsa as the VCS
> > for a package?
>
> Why are you opposed to using Salsa as the VCS for cpuset? You use
> Salsa f
On Mar 15, "Roberto C. Sánchez" wrote:
This appears, at least to me, to have rather substantially exceeded what
is appropriate for an uncoordinated NMU.
Indeed.
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:34:09 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
This appears, at least to me, to have rather substantially exceeded what
is appropriate for an uncoordinated NMU. In particular, this seems to be
inconsistent with the following paragraph from the Developer's
Reference, section 5.11.1
Hell Stephan =)
On 3/15/25 12:52 PM, Stephan Verbücheln wrote:
Am Donnerstag, dem 13.03.2025 um 02:37 +0100 schrieb Dirk Lehmann:
GPU shaders should be clearly respected as software (and not
hardware). Therefore, `intel-media-va-driver-non-free` is rightly in
the Debian archive `non-free`.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 04:34:09PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
Question: Should uncoordinated NMUs unilaterally choose Salsa as the VCS
for a package?
That doesn't make sense to me, at least without context, not because
setting Vcs-* doesn't make sense in a NMU but because creating an off
Re: Soren Stoutner
> I thought about doing that, but those who are against this change feel so
> strongly about
> their position I don’t think they would accept a change made that way as
> valid. In
> addition, such a change doesn’t just need to apply to the mailing lists, but
> also to other
]] Roberto C. Sánchez
How do others suggest to handle this particular situation?
Last time it happened to me, I rolled back the inappropriate
changes in the package and let the NMUer clean up the mess left on
salsa.
-- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about
who its
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 4:34 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> Question: Should uncoordinated NMUs unilaterally choose Salsa as the VCS
> for a package?
Why are you opposed to using Salsa as the VCS for cpuset? You use
Salsa for many other packages and Github for some others.
Although there are obv
On Saturday, March 15, 2025 11:19:25 AM Mountain Standard Time Andrea Pappacoda
wrote:
> Hi Soren,
>
> On Sat Mar 15, 2025 at 3:47 PM CET, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 15, 2025 7:41:02 AM Mountain Standard Time Antonio
> >
> > Terceiro wrote:
> >> Please don't. Mobilizing the ent
On Friday, March 14, 2025 2:49:26 PM Mountain Standard Time Soren Stoutner
wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 12, 2025 5:38:40 PM Mountain Standard Time Mario
> Limonciello
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >Mario Limonciello (hints of format=flowed support)
> >
> > Thanks for the summary. I am of the camp of
Thank you for the summation Phil!
To clarify my position: At present I am against the proposal.
Regarding format=flowed: I would not want the CoC complicated with it at
this time; I'd rather first gather more data on the current state of
client support, which MUAs are in popular use for Debian
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 14:00:46 +0100, Lee Garrett
wrote:
>P.S.: This failure mode isn't even documented in the release notes.
But they do, don't they, recommend to have console access available
during an upgrade right?
Greetings
Marc
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