Soren Stoutner writes:
> At this point in the discussion I would like to progress toward a decision.
>
> One way to do so would be a GR. On one hand, using a GR to modify one line
> of the code of conduct for the mailing list seems like a rather large hammer
> for a rather small problem. But
Hi Simon,
* Simon Josefsson [2025-03-07 18:17]:
Is it possible from your data sources to filter these two cases apart?
It is not explicitly recorded, but I can deduce it from the data, as I
have the name of the .changes file and can take everything before the
first underscore (_) as source pa
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On Saturday, March 8, 2025 7:46:58 PM MST Maytham Alsudany wrote:
> Hi debian-legal,
>
> Today I was reviewing a package[1] that contains a file[2] from Project
> Gutenberg. d/copyright had listed it under Public-Domain, and it would
> seem that way from the website[3] where it says "Public domain
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On Sat, 2025-03-08 at 20:24 -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
[...]
>
> I agree with your analysis, the Project Gutenberg license is not DFSG-
> free, most particularly because of the restrictions on commercial use.
It appears this has been discussed before:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2017/
Hello,
On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 11:25am +01, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> Can you clarify how you understand policy here?
>
> I read it as systemd is not performing an installation here and
> therefore does not violate the present policy. If your reading is
> different, we should likely clarify policy on
Le Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 11:42:10AM -0700, Soren Stoutner a écrit :
> In the original GR, one of the options that lost was for Debian to host two
> sets of installer
> images, one with non-free firmware and one without, and for users to be able
> to make an
> informed decision before downloading
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 11:16:40PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Aurélien COUDERC writes:
>
> > Le 8 mars 2025 21:09:00 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson a
> > écrit :
> >
> >>I read this outcome as fairly clear message that, no, Debian does not
> >>want to provide a second set of installer images,
On Saturday, March 8, 2025 4:23:56 PM MST Philip Hands wrote:
> Soren Stoutner writes:
> > At this point in the discussion I would like to progress toward a decision.
> >
> > One way to do so would be a GR. On one hand, using a GR to modify one line
> > of the code of conduct for the mailing lis
Aurélien COUDERC writes:
> Le 8 mars 2025 21:09:00 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson a
> écrit :
>
>>I read this outcome as fairly clear message that, no, Debian does not
>>want to provide a second set of installer images, and is not interested
>>in contributions to make them.
>
> Your positions in th
Am Samstag, dem 08.03.2025 um 14:51 +0100 schrieb Johannes Schauer
Marin Rodrigues:
> If you don't trust the vendor, then it makes no difference whether or
> not new official firmware/microcode can be uploaded/flashed or not.
> If you don't trust the vendor, then the initial microcode that came
> w
Hello,
On Fri 07 Mar 2025 at 06:17pm +01, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Your graph and statistics on this is great, thank you!
>
> Timo Röhling writes:
>
>> 2. Source packages going through NEW merely because they introduce new
>> binary packages are typically processed faster than completely new
>>
Hello,
Thank you, Timo, for all the info. I think you're quite right about the
psychological impacts and the comparison with the level crossing is apt.
--
Sean Whitton
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Hello,
On Fri 07 Mar 2025 at 10:11am GMT, Simon McVittie wrote:
> If the public NEW-queue viewer at https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
> is an accurate reflection of the files that the ftp team would look at
> first in their internal processes, then the top changelog entry (but only
> the top
Hello Charles,
Thanks. Please put prominent links to these three places:
- Policy 2.3 -- this covers 90% of my NEW rejects
Based on my experience processing NEW, a lot of DDs don't seem to
really have an understanding of the requirements explained here.
Including me, before I joined the f
Charles Plessy writes:
>>I suggest to use 'lrc' in the pipeline. I already do this for many
>>packages, and I just add
>>
>>-
>>https://salsa.debian.org/debian/licenserecon/raw/main/debian/licenserecon.yml
>
> Looks good!
>
>>Yes, false positives happens, and it doesn't always handle Autotools
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Bill Allombert writes:
> Le Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:33:53PM +0100, Simon Josefsson a écrit :
>> pan...@disroot.org writes:
>>
>> > I urge Debian to rethink its decision to officially include non-free
>> > firmware and correct the social contract. Instead of making non-free
>> > firmware the defa
Le 8 mars 2025 13:43:26 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson a
écrit :
> Having source code for the
>microcode would help gain confidence in it, and is the reasonable
>request. If the request is denied, I would consider the vendor not
>trustworthy and look into options.
How about you try asking the v
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 02:51:29PM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
wrote:
If you don't trust the vendor, then it makes no difference whether or not new
official firmware/microcode can be uploaded/flashed or not. If you don't trust
the vendor, then the initial microcode that came with you
Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues writes:
> Hi,
>
> Quoting Simon Josefsson (2025-03-08 13:43:26)
>> My point was that there is no reasonable way to gain confidence about
>> security properties of any piece of non-free microcode. Everyone can now
>> produce AMD microcode that corrupts your machin
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 02:51:29PM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quoting Simon Josefsson (2025-03-08 13:43:26)
> > My point was that there is no reasonable way to gain confidence about
> > security properties of any piece of non-free microcode. Everyone can now
> > pro
Bill Allombert writes:
> True, but the GR does not prevent Debian of providing a second set of
> installer images. What is required is someone to do the work, as usual.
We already had those images before. The winning choice said:
We will publish these images as official Debian media, replaci
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 06:59:45PM +, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Le Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 11:42:10AM -0700, Soren Stoutner a écrit :
> > In the original GR, one of the options that lost was for Debian to host two
> > sets of installer
> > images, one with non-free firmware and one without, and fo
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Le 8 mars 2025 21:09:00 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson a
écrit :
>I read this outcome as fairly clear message that, no, Debian does not
>want to provide a second set of installer images, and is not interested
>in contributions to make them.
Your positions in this thread try to make it sound much
Hi,
Quoting Simon Josefsson (2025-03-08 13:43:26)
> My point was that there is no reasonable way to gain confidence about
> security properties of any piece of non-free microcode. Everyone can now
> produce AMD microcode that corrupts your machine in advanced ways that evade
> detection, but we d
Hello,
On Thu 27 Feb 2025 at 06:11pm +09, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 03:02:08PM +0800, Sean Whitton a écrit :
>>
>> Packages that already install programs to /usr/games, where another
>> package installs a program of the same with different functionality
>> to a d
Le Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:33:53PM +0100, Simon Josefsson a écrit :
> pan...@disroot.org writes:
>
> > I urge Debian to rethink its decision to officially include non-free
> > firmware and correct the social contract. Instead of making non-free
> > firmware the default, Debian should ensure that u
On Thu, 2025-03-06 at 06:58 +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 05:32:37PM +, Mathias Gibbens wrote:
> > I like that idea, thanks! It would be easy enough to add that to
> > Incus' $PATH while making it simple for an end user to modify their
> > local environment to directl
The ideal laptop in my dreams is running pure Debian on a RISC-V CPU,
and all firmware from BIOS/EFI to peripheral devices has the source
code available with a license which allows the free-software community
to maintain it and remove undesired features.
Unfortunately, even though we are getting c
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