* Andreas Tille wrote:
> This stupid thread made its way even in a German Linux news feed ...
>
>http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2004/7569.html
...and on the frontmatter of this week's LWN issue...
> even if you do not understand German: I would love if Debian would
> become famous for rele
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:11:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Seems more like there is a more of a minority of uber right
> wingers trying to batten down art that offends their sensibility. The
> actual project members seem to be more or less taking the sensible
> approach, in that t
14:33 given that there have been actual deaths among debian devels, i
don't think it's a good idea to
ask "is the hotkeys maintainer dead?". someday, someone asking a
similar question will get the
answer "yes".
14:33 ibid: It's happened with the kernel
14:34 oh?
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:24:29PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:34:54PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:06:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > >Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >>It stri
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 10:01:16AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > > Actually, the developer is choosing to have Debian distribute a
> > > > package, and
> > > > others are trying to stop Debian from distributing the package.
> > > Word games. Censorship is when a citizen of one body chooses
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:54PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:26:17AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Umm, only if it is indeed deemed to be illegal. So far, there
> > has been just FUD about this issue. I am not sure that artistic work
> >
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:33:28PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:12:50AM +0100, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I hope all you people are aware that you are causing a new duelling banjo
> > case and helping out Google to connect Debian with hot-babes.
> Waw
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Andreas Metzler wrote:
>> On 2004-11-24 Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Package: findutils
[...]
>>> It would be nice if the daily find run could be moved behind the
>>> logrotate and sysklogd runs
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:42:05AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:54PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:26:17AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Umm, only if it is indeed deemed to be illegal.
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Hi Eric,
most cc:s removed - and I'm still thinking wether I should send this as a
private mail... anyway:
I'm sorry if I offended you with my summary mail about the current status of
quik and initrd-support. My aim is to help to get working oldworld
Hi All,
I am looking to port pcmcia based wlan driver (prism chipset) on a
custom hardware. Pcmcia hardware conforms to PCMCIA/PC CARD 2.1
standard. Here is the description of PCMCAI Controller.
It is connected with the CPU via a custom bus which is a non-ISA/PCI
bus. Pcmcia host controller is
On 06/12/2004 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > in my eyes there shouldn't be any tolerance for intolerance, as you
> > woun't get respect in return. rather your tolerance will be
> > exploited.
>
> Right. I am not about to go about tolerating people who are
> intolerant of artr, jsut because it
Andrew Suffield wrote:
Is Debian a legal entity? The answer is unquestionably yes.
Where do you get these ideas? Debian is unquestionably not a legal
entity.
There is simply no way to avoid being one.
An unincorporated association is what your organization i
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sunday 05 December 2004 03:32 pm, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
>> > Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1. Reason: I can
>> > recognize and distinguish Latin-1 characters, even when I do not always
>> > understand the words they
On 06/12/2004 Steve Langasek wrote:
> Publishing houses never let writers edit their own work -- at least until
> they're famous and have mindless followers who'll buy and read any formulaic
> tripe they slap together. I don't think I like the idea of Debian becoming
> the Stephen King of the Open
Otavio Salvador agreed to sponsor this package.
We decided to wait one week before upload it to the archive, in order to
get some more feedback. Probably we can already upload it. What do you think,
Otavio? The only problem is that I'm currently on holiday and I will stay
outside until next sunday,
> Give me *one* authoritative definition of pornography that applies to
> this picture. Until you give me one, I'll consider all the ones I've
> seen so far to be the accurate ones, and none of them say these pictures
> are pornography.
It's been said that pornography is other people's erotism.
Po
|| On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:18:24 +0100
|| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
l> Otavio Salvador agreed to sponsor this package.
l> We decided to wait one week before upload it to the archive, in order to
l> get some more feedback. Probably we can already upload it. What do you think,
l> Otavio? The only prob
* Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041206 13:45]:
> Having said that, this package doesn't really advance Debian in any
> way. It won't gain us any users [...].
And that's the reason why I think it should not be included.
Cheers,
Andi
--
http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/
PGP 1024/89F
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> I'm sorry, I didn't mean that these other possibilities don't exist.
So why are you muttering about GRs when at least 9 other avenues exist
and GRs are proven to be divisive and a waste of time?
> Bruce was not suggesting any of them either, and my real point is that
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:12:53PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> You're being offensive, you should not be included in Debian.
Reading this one comment made this whole craptacular thread worth reading.
- David Nusinow
* Gürkan Sengün:
> * Package name: lapispuzzle.app
> Version : 0.9.1
> Upstream Author : Banlu Kemiyatorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapispuzzle/index.html
> * License : GNU GPL
> Description : almost a clone of Street Puzzle F
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The images are hardly pornography, though I certainly couldn't run
> it on my office PC (unless I was trying to get fired).
Heh, but frozen-bubble might be even better at that.
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 19:18 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Gürkan Sengün:
>
> > * Package name: lapispuzzle.app
> > Version : 0.9.1
> > Upstream Author : Banlu Kemiyatorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapispuzzle/index.html
> > * License
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 03:54:12PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> Hi
>
> I notice discussion on bug #241554 regarding a menu-method for .desktop
> files used by KDM/GDM for window manager sessions. Has any progress been
> made on this? If not I would like to volunteer for it. I definitely
I would not disagree with Peter or Daniel. They are
right in my view. However, consider the following
Unicode characters:
025A LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA WITH HOOK
025E LATIN SMALL LETTER CLOSED REVERSED OPEN E
0261 LATIN SMALL LETTER SCRIPT G
0264 LATIN SMALL LETTER RAMS HORN
0267 LATIN
Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
025A LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA WITH HOOK
025E LATIN SMALL LETTER CLOSED REVERSED OPEN E
0261 LATIN SMALL LETTER SCRIPT G
0264 LATIN SMALL LETTER RAMS HORN
0267 LATIN SMALL LETTER HENG WITH HOOK
027A LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R WITH LONG LEG
027F LATIN SMALL LETTER REV
Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are not speaking of a stricken Polish L, a
> double-accented Magyar O, or a euro sign. We are
> speaking of... well, to tell the truth I have no idea
> what these letters are. Have you? More to the point,
> should you and I learn to recognize su
Il giorno lun, 06-12-2004 alle 01:49 +, Andrew Suffield ha scritto:
> Word games. Censorship is when a citizen of one body chooses to have
> that body distribute something (by being a citizen and distributing
> it), and another citizen tries to stop them.
This is not the case: one member of a
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 05:15:50PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> >You're looking at this from a US-centric viewpoint, Bruce, and extending
> >this to the whole Project.
> >
> Because I am one of the people with legal responsibility for the U.S.
> incarnation of the pr
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 23:40 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:11:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
[snip]
> Well, I've changed my mind actually. An optional package called
> 'hot-babe' is pretty harmless. The images are hardly pornography,
> though I certainly couldn't run
Ron Johnson writes:
> On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 23:40 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:11:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> [snip]
> > Well, I've changed my mind actually. An optional package called
> > 'hot-babe' is pretty harmless. The images are hardly pornography,
>
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 21:25 +0100, Andrea Bedini wrote:
> Il giorno lun, 06-12-2004 alle 01:49 +, Andrew Suffield ha scritto:
> > Word games. Censorship is when a citizen of one body chooses to have
> > that body distribute something (by being a citizen and distributing
> > it), and another cit
> "Ron" == Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ron> Umm, all animals (except humans) are naked.
Not true; have a look at some of the photos here:
http://www.tech-sol.net/humor/funphoto121.htm> (note: web page
produces stupid warnings; ignore them and it seems to work). There
probably
> "Ron" == Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ron> If you are presenting pictures that "appeal to the prurient
Ron> interest and lacks serious literary, artistic, political or
Ron> scientific value", then you very well might be violating your
Ron> ISP's AUP.
So are you sa
> "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Russell> Bad idea. Some countries have stupid laws and we should
Russell> not pander to them. There are laws against encryption
Russell> and against reverse engineering (which could get strace,
Russell> ltrace, and gdb)
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Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Though I agree on your last statement (and please, remember, I'm from
> germany where non-ASCII-characters are also in common use), I still
> consider that UTF-8-not-ASCII has not finally reached ok, but it'
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:34:45PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 03:54:12PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I notice discussion on bug #241554 regarding a menu-method for .desktop
> > files used by KDM/GDM for window manager sessions. Has any progress bee
Em Dom, 2004-12-05 Ãs 02:53 +, Andrew Suffield escreveu:
> > I can't see why. The whole free software concept brings an idea of
> > giving equal oportunities to everyone.
>
> How is it "equal opportunities" to say: "You can't do that unless you
> also find a woman who's willing to do it as wel
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 10:01 +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > "Ron" == Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Ron> If you are presenting pictures that "appeal to the prurient
> Ron> interest and lacks serious literary, artistic, political or
> Ron> scientific value", then you very w
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:08PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> On 06/12/2004 Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Publishing houses never let writers edit their own work -- at least until
> > they're famous and have mindless followers who'll buy and read any formulaic
> > tripe they slap together. I don't t
Hello all,
I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian user not
to
violate his local laws. Of course it would help if a Debian developer does care
to
take notion of what the (Debian) community thinks about certain software.
I do not like the idea of censoring in Debia
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:21:41AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:08PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> > On 06/12/2004 Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > Publishing houses never let writers edit their own work -- at least until
> > > they're famous and have mindless followers wh
Philippe De Swert writes:
> I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian
> user not to violate his local laws.
Of course it is. Unfortunately, governments don't generally agree.
--
John Hasler
Philippe De Swert wrote:
Hello all,
I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian user not to
violate his local laws.
It's the responsibility of people who live in a jurisdiction to not
break their local laws. Not just users, but everyone involved in any
way. What is yo
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> >> On 2004-11-24 Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Package: findutils
> [...]
> >>> It would be nice if the daily fin
This one time, at band camp, Bruce Perens said:
> Philippe De Swert wrote:
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian
> >user not to violate his local laws.
>
> It's the responsibility of people who live in a jurisdiction to not
> break their lo
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:58:10PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
> I would not disagree with Peter or Daniel. They are
> right in my view. However, consider the following
> Unicode characters:
> 025A LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA WITH HOOK
> 025E LATIN SMALL LETTER CLOSED REVERSED OPEN E
> 02
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:53:42PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> But yes, non-ASCII Latin-1 chars should not be given special status over
> the national chars found in other languages spoken by project members.
> Debian should be using either ASCII, or Unicode; standardizing o
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:04:56PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:53:42PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > But yes, non-ASCII Latin-1 chars should not be given special status over
> > the national chars found in other languages spoken by project member
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On 12/03/2004 12:08 PM, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:26:50AM +0100, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Am 2004-12-02 18:11:03, schrieb Manoj Srivastava:
>>
>>
>>> The Bible is illegal to distribute in the most po
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:10:21PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:04:56PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:53:42PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > But yes, non-ASCII Latin-1 chars should not be given
[Matthew Garrett]
> Defining the character set as utf-8 means that any non-unicode
> capable application is going to have issues, yes.
Postulate an app that is ignorant of character sets - we'll call it
"aptitude". Fixing it to make it accept utf-8 and spit out the correct
encoding for its LC_CT
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