Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
> Still, breaking bind's access to root name servers is particularly > troublesome because it may tend to break all net access. It may be > worthwhile to remove db.root from the list of configuration files. > Especially, because this list isn't something anyone should need to > change. I beg to d

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
> > Okay, then solve the problem of which one should actually work on the > > standard port? You can't use update-alternatives if the software is > > Well, I would prefer that things didn't start listening for connections > without asking first, but I can't imagine that that's a popular suggestion

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
>These packages don't conflict; they merely provide the same > service. There is no reason that these three packages cannot > coexist on the same system. Any namespace overlap can be > solved by alternatives or renaming, as such things are normally > rectified. >Debian policy should prosc

Re: /usr/lib/apt/methods/http - close(-1)

1999-01-29 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 29 Jan 1999, Stephen Zander wrote: > >>>>> "Scott" == Scott K Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Scott> On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Russell Coker wrote: > >> What is a close(-1) supposed to do? The http program does one > >>

Re: /usr/lib/apt/methods/http - close(-1)

1999-01-29 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Russell Coker wrote: > What is a close(-1) supposed to do? The http program does one and I'm curious > as to why... IIRC, close(-1) closes all open file handles. I'm not certain exactly wher this is documented though.

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Florian La Roche wrote: > There are reasons why all distributions stayed with /var/spool/mail. > Even Debian who also thinks a lot about making things sane/clean has > stayed with /var/spool/mail. Note that Debian has not yet moved from FSSTND to FHS for the most part, and re

Re: freetype1 is gone from slink, imagemagick still depends on it

1998-10-15 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:39:05PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote: > "Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 07:14:20PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > > I'm a little confused. freetype2-dev conflicts with freetype1 (<=

Re: apt-0.0.16 and libc6-2.0.7r2

1998-06-25 Thread Scott K. Ellis
e the upgrade of libc6. > > Now the first thing that apt wants to do when you run it is to commit > suicide by removing itself. Is there a workaround? Yes, you encountered a bug in apt 0.0.16 (an error in the sorting code. Get apt 0.0.17 from http://master.debian.org/~doogie/ -- S

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-10 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote: > > > > Still one problem. /wg-15-locale/s//wg15-locale/ > > > damn. i thought i got that one this morning.

Re: Libc6 progress: 1997-12-28

1998-01-03 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 03:47:22PM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote: > > Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > perlmagick-1.15-2 > > imagemagick-3.9.0-1 > > libhdf4g-dev-4.0.2-4 (Depends on libhdf4) > > It's a strange dependency, but libhdf4 actual

Re: libnfslock (or dftp?) install dangerous...

1997-12-31 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 30 Dec 1997, Mark W. Eichin wrote: > I was just upgrading a system from [hamm a few weeks old] to [hamm > today] using, for the first time, dftp (instead of a mirror and manual > dpkg -BORGiE runs.) I selected libnfslock, it created > /etc/ld.so.preload, and since then any attempt to run a dyn

Re: problem with libmime-perl_3.204-1.deb in hamm

1997-12-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Tim Ferrell wrote: > I am in the process of upgrading my system to run current with hamm and > had a problem with the libmime-perl pkg relating to the libwww-perl pkg > that prevented both pkgs from configuring. > > First libwww-perl requires libmime-base64-perl which does no

Re: how to handel version numbers for upstreap updates.

1997-12-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Radu Duta wrote: > I've got a package version 1.5.0-1 that I've already packaged. > There is a new upstream release 1.5.1. > Should the new package be named 1.5.1-1 or 1.5.1-2 or is it up to > my discretion. > > Since it's an entirely new source tree it would make sense > to

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: > > > The problem is that libc5-dev doesn't exist in hamm. Hamm has > > libc5-altdev instead. This forces people who want to compile libc5 stuff > > into the altgcc/lib*-al

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 13 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: > "Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 1997 at 03:19:29PM -0500, Chris Fearnley wrote: > > > > libc6: Conflicts: (

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 01:06:07AM -0500, Scott K. Ellis wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > > > Would it? What if they would also upgrade their libc5-dev to the same > > > version as the libc5 in hamm? W

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 1997 at 03:19:29PM -0500, Chris Fearnley wrote: > > libc6: Conflicts: (libc5<<5.4.33-6) > > (Necessary due to utmp issue -- Hell, someone upgrading from a CD > >with stock 1.3.1 will be able to corrupt utmp in the current scheme > >

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote: > The problem is that maybe *you* know what packages those are, but most > users expect to be able to upgrade without major system services > breaking if dpkg/dselect doesn't indicate that there's a problem. > Your approach would cause silent failures. > > Imag

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Joe Emenaker wrote: > > > On 12 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote: > > > Scott Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY REASONS WHY UTMP CORRUPTION IS SO EVIL THAT WE > > > NEED TO MAKE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO RUN A FEW LIBC6 PROGRAMS ON BO GO > > > THROUGH H

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, David Welton wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 01:44:51PM +1100, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > > > If they want to remain with a libc5 development environment, they have two > > choices, stay with bo, or use altdev from hamm. You regard utmp corruption > > as a minor issue, I wou

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote: > Would it possible to make a (not altdev): > > debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/oldlibs/libc5-dev_5.4.33-7.deb > > that conflicts with libc6-dev? And would this solve everyones problem? > I'm just wondering if the libc5 in this directory doesn

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: > > > This still forces people installing libc6 to upgrade libc5 past a version > > that can be used with libc5-dev. > > Would it? What if they would also upgrade their libc5-dev

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 13 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: > Scott Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Installing libc5 from hamm forces you to abandon your old libc5 > > development system since it CONFLICTS (correctly) with libc5-dev. Not > > everyone is going that route yet. > > True, so they can stay with

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: > 'Martin Mitchell wrote:' > > > >If they want to remain with a libc5 development environment, they have two > >choices, stay with bo, or use altdev from hamm. You regard utmp corruption > >as a minor issue, I would not, especially if I expected that stay

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: > The reason for my bug is to get the broken package off the ftp site. > Before anyone else breaks their system. Guy, if everyone believes that > 5.4.33-7 in hamm solves the problem, could you replace > libc5_5.4.33-6.deb with libc5_5.4.33-7.deb? I won'

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: > "Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7) > > > from hamm, then you may install libc6. > > > > The solution isn'

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: > Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > debian/bo/binary-i386/base/libc5_5.4.33-6.deb conflicts with libc6 > > making it IMPOSSIBLE to upgrade!! I had to downgrade to > > libc5_5.4.33-3.deb from a LSL CD (thank goodness this bug is not > > shippe

Re: be careful with Replaces, please

1997-11-30 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Yann Dirson wrote: > Greg Stark writes: > > > > We've got be be a little more careful with the Replaces header. I just > > installed the libc6 version of comerr, and dpkg helpfully deinstalled > > e2fsprogs. > > That's perfectly normal if you previously had e2fsprogs <=

Re: Documentation Policy

1997-06-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
le my ability to read that. However, when the upstream source is something else, such as info/texinfo, I don't want HTML as well. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis | your belief in injustice and tragedy. http://

RE: Use of suidmanager

1997-06-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
ccess to sudo). However, you may not want that arangement. - -- Scott K. Ellis |In order to live freely and happily, http://www.gate.net/~storm/| you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not

Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
by default. It's just too > user-hostile. I'm not advocating any particular editor here. I personally use joe for brief editing jobs and emacs for the big stuff, but I can understand the expectations of someone familiar with unix typing vipw or such. +---------

Re: Documentation Policy

1997-06-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
hould be a suggest for foo-doc-html|foo-doc-info. Recommends is too strong, it is annoying to beat dselect into submission when you really don't want a package. ++ || Your friends will know you better i

Re: Info or HTML: which should be the default, which in a separate package?

1997-06-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
out providing the functionality elsewhere. And I'm not convinced an HTML search engine is the solution, that requires cluttering my drive up with cache files for the engine. ++ || Your friends wil

Re: Re^2: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
| | of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my | | | window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance | | | between the above and my own views is| | Scott K. Ellis | non-deterministic. The question of the existence | | [

Re: Policy wrt mail lockfile (section 4.3)

1997-06-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
/fcntl locking at the same time? You create fun deadlocks when one program does it lockfile/flock and the other does it flock/lockfile. +--------+ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and

Re: Larry Daffner, svgalib1 libc6

1997-06-19 Thread Scott K. Ellis
| of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my | | | window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance | | |between the above and my own views is| | Scott K. Ellis | non-deterministic. The question of the existence | | [EMAIL PRO

Re: Obsolete package CGI-modules (hamm)

1997-06-16 Thread Scott K. Ellis
s your chance to fix the capitilization :) +--------+ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure e

Re: libc6 policy in unstable

1997-06-14 Thread Scott K. Ellis
iner uploads of glibc packages for orphaned packages and so forth. ++ | | Your friends will know you better in the | | Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years

Re: reboot function

1997-06-04 Thread Scott K. Ellis
r friends will know you better in the | | Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years.| ||

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Scott K. Ellis
cause they DIDN'T READ THE DOCUMENTATION. Really, we knew about the epoch problem in 1.2, we fixed it, the fix has been discussed on debian-user a number of times. The solution is: dpkg -i dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb dpkg --clear-available +-

Re: Perl 5.004, perl modules, and binary compatibility

1997-05-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
solicit more comments) before rocking that boat. +------------+ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough, they're yours. | |

Perl 5.004, perl modules, and binary compatibility

1997-05-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
te than perl is. Does perl look at the site-perl directory before looking in its normal librarys? +----+ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough

Bug#2309: Multiple root accounts

1996-09-25 Thread Scott K. Ellis
> Forwarded message from debian-devel to file as a bug report: > > > Hi... > > > > I'd rather open this for discussion that a bug report, but I'd like to > > have multiple root accounts (ie: root, root2, root3 etc) on one system - > > however it buggers adduser up when adding a normal user. > > >

Bug#4007: identd doesn't seem to be correctly configured

1996-08-02 Thread Scott K. Ellis
-- Scott K. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Argue for your limitations Systems Administrator, Anexis Inc. and sure enough, Business Web Presence Hosting they're yours. http://www.anexis.com/ -- Illusions