On 12/06/13 00:02, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2013-06-11 23:50:01 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> Something that doesn't have these limitations:
>>
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2487#section-7
> [...]
>
> That basically just makes the case for relying on (E)SMTP only for
> transporting
On 11-06-13 18:37, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 12:45:07PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
>> Sendmail has just one more layer of indirection by virtue of the m4
>> macros. Postfix has most of its behavior hard coded in the C sources,
>> while exim's behavior can be controlled by run-
On 10-06-13 18:36, Ian Jackson wrote:
> B. resolv.conf is not static and may change due to network
>environment changes.
> Implications:
> 1. All existing DNS applications must be modified to notice
>changes to resolv.conf.
> 2. Corollary: all existing DNS resolver libraries
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:36:48PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 21:04 +0100, Roger Lynn wrote:
> > On 06/06/13 21:10, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:58:00AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > >> Be aware that x32 has sizeof(time_t) > sizeof(long), so you sh
Am 10.06.2013 11:10, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> What is new is that PackageKit asks for a system update *systematically*
> when it finds the system is not up-to-date. I don’t know why, but it
> seems to have started with the wheezy release, it did not happen during
> the freeze.
When I first got
On 2013-06-11 23:50:01 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Pocock wrote:
> Something that doesn't have these limitations:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2487#section-7
[...]
That basically just makes the case for relying on (E)SMTP only for
transporting messages, but leveraging OpenPGP or S/MIME to provide
On 11/06/13 22:56, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2013-06-12 02:09:24 +0800 (+0800), Chow Loong Jin wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 08:01:58PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>>
>>> What about replacing SMTP?
>>
>> With what?
>
> With ESMTP, of course!
Something that doesn't have these limitations:
On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 21:04 +0100, Roger Lynn wrote:
> On 06/06/13 21:10, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:58:00AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> Be aware that x32 has sizeof(time_t) > sizeof(long), so you should expect
> >> SUBSTANTIAL porting of packages to be required. Parti
* Jonathan Dowland [130611 18:35]:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 12:45:07PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > Sendmail has just one more layer of indirection by virtue of the m4
> > macros. Postfix has most of its behavior hard coded in the C sources,
> > while exim's behavior can be controlled by run-time
On 2013-06-12 02:09:24 +0800 (+0800), Chow Loong Jin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 08:01:58PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >
> > What about replacing SMTP?
>
> With what?
With ESMTP, of course!
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On 06/06/13 21:10, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:58:00AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Be aware that x32 has sizeof(time_t) > sizeof(long), so you should expect
>> SUBSTANTIAL porting of packages to be required. Particularly since that
>> arrangement is explicitly unsupported b
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Antoine Millet
* Package name: python-dotconf
Version : 1.6
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* URL : https://github.com/NaPs/Dotconf
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Python library to parse
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 08:01:58PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>
> On 28/05/13 03:02, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Now that we are done with systemd for the time being, can we have the
> > flame war about replacing Exim with Postfix as the default MTA?
> >
> > Are there any objections other than "
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:38:52AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> [...]
> Not for what he's described. dig @$other_server would still work just fine,
> you would merely have /etc/resolv.conf pointing at 127.0.0.1 and have the
> *kernel* handle the DNS forwarding instead of using dnsmasq or another
On 28/05/13 03:02, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Now that we are done with systemd for the time being, can we have the
> flame war about replacing Exim with Postfix as the default MTA?
>
> Are there any objections other than "but I like it this way!"?
>
What about replacing SMTP?
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:39:40AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
> > Shuffled the quotes:
> > > The difficulty with plan A is probably B4. Do we have a suitable
> > > minimal proxy we can install, a way to reconfigure it based on dhcp
> > > etc., and a means to displace it when something more subst
Hi Ondřej,
Ondřej Surý writes:
> and if I match this with the table at:
> http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/docs/systemd-dependencies.html I get
> the result that you will _not_ compile systemd with:
>
> libselinux.so
> libpam.so
> libwrap.so
> libaudit.so
> libkmod.so
>
> because they are mar
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 11:10:38AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Since you repeat this claim: over the last year and a bit, systemd has
> seen 21 releases. I agree this is quite a lot, but it's hardly twice a
> week.
The number of Linux releases over the samer period is only about half that,
w
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 12:45:07PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> Sendmail has just one more layer of indirection by virtue of the m4
> macros. Postfix has most of its behavior hard coded in the C sources,
> while exim's behavior can be controlled by run-time configuration if
> an advanced user wants t
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 08:10:22PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> Life for the maintainer or for the user?
Well, the severity of a bug, from a user POV, makes no guarantee on
how serious the maintainer takes it, nor whether they will actually
fix it. Admittely some users get comfort from being
At some point in the recent past the SDL team was effectively dead and
the games team took over maintenance. ISTR sponsoring at least one upload
of an SDL component during that time. However, it's possible that the SDL
time was revived since.
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On 6/11/2013 11:56 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 07:04:30AM -0400, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
>>> Normally you would keep the old version's changelog. But even if you don't,
>>> there's no need
>>> for an ITP in cases like this,
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 07:04:30AM -0400, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
> > Normally you would keep the old version's changelog. But even if you don't,
> > there's no need for an ITP in cases like this, or when part of a package
> > starts
> > to be shipped from a different source upstream. It's like ope
Daniel Schepler gmail.com> writes:
> (Sorry about the lack of threading... for some reason I'm unable to find
the
> links to download mbox archives for replying to the messages.)
https://www.mirbsd.org/cvs.cgi/contrib/hosted/tg/getarticle?rev=HEAD
Just call that with either the Message-ID sans
Am 10.06.2013 14:13, schrieb Shivam Pandya:
> Hello sir/ Ma'm
>
> I'm Shivam Pandya, and study in my last year, I want to develop a OS
> in my final year project, I found debian from wiki, Can you help me
> out from this. can you please guide me that how could I develop (re
> distr
Ian Jackson chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> B. resolv.conf is not static and may change due to network
>environment changes.
> Implications:
> 1. All existing DNS applications must be modified to notice
>changes to resolv.conf.
OpenBSD implements that:
http://www.openbsd.o
+++ Matthias Klumpp [2013-06-07 23:50 +0200]:
> 2013/6/7 Tollef Fog Heen :
> > ]] Nicolas Dandrimont
> >
> >> The "accepted by DSA part" is a bit complicated. We didn't really want to
> >> bother one of the busiest teams in Debian when the software wasn't even
> >> packaged, and, when it came up, I
On 06/11/2013 04:34 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
>
> Normally you would keep the old version's changelog. But even if you don't,
> there's no need for an ITP in cases like this, or when part of a package
> starts
> to be shipped from a different source upstream. It's like opening an ITP for
]] Ondřej Surý
> Tollef, it is still unclear to me as well.
Ok, I'll try to be clearer then.
> You said:
>
> > I'd like to align with upstream here (and in general): If upstream says
> > a component is optional, that's a configuration I'd in general want to
> > support. If upstream says a com
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:22:32AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> [...]
> I've also seen another laptop that is on the fringe of a wifi coverage
> zone getting into a bad state where multiple copies of the wifi password
> window appear - if the laptop is unattended for a few hours, you can
> come ba
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>
> ]] Thomas Goirand
>
> > If what you say above is right (I have no opinion on that yet, I just
> > trust what you say), then this renders the "systemd is modular" argument
> > completely useless, because practically, the user wont be able
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:10:53AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Chow Loong Jin (11/06/2013):
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > > I said random, not deterministic. Giving back until a certain test
> > > succeeds, for instance. Because some bad code triggers a
Chow Loong Jin (11/06/2013):
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > I said random, not deterministic. Giving back until a certain test
> > succeeds, for instance. Because some bad code triggers a segfault
> > on almost every try except that it sometimes works.
>
> Tha
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> Chow,
>
> am Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:15:48AM +0800 hast du folgendes geschrieben:
> > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote:
> > > > So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and
> > >
On 11/06/13 03:27, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:31:07PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:17:26PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
> * Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Isn't this packaged already? You don't need to file WNPP bu
On 11/06/13 01:11, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> Every copy of jessie could be distributed with one of the red hoods
>> referred to in this article:
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistle
Chow,
am Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:15:48AM +0800 hast du folgendes geschrieben:
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote:
> > > So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and
> > > even "slight" removal commands), which allow him to do the most of
> >
On 11/06/13 00:37, Jens Roder wrote:
> Hello,
>
> just like to add that today this "feature" with the popup blocked my gnome
> within the suspend procedure, which I did not see but got a hot running
> laptop in the bag. When I opened the laptop again I saw the problem and when
> clicking on canc
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