Re: removal of svenl from the project

> "Daniel" == Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Daniel> However I don't think you'd be right to hold a grudge Daniel> against anyone who refused to apply it. If Matthew raised Daniel> some issues with your patch, why did you not fix them? Daniel> Surely removing a debug

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:58:29PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > > "Eduard" == Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Eduard> Sven, you have a problem with not having the last word in > Eduard> a dispute. If someone hurts you (or even it may _look_ > Eduard> for you this way whi

Re: [desktop] ¿Dead?

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Janez Rabzelj Zappone wrote: > Hi, the project is dead? > No, this is not an ex-project. It is sleeping! Not unlike the Norwegian blue parrot! Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |

Re: Request of expulsion of Zeke the Cat from the Debian Project

> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wouter> This is an official request to throw Zeke the Cat out of Wouter> the Debian Project. I do *not* want a cat as my DPL, Wouter> therefore, I'm requesting that she be removed from the Wouter> project. This is an of

Alternative development platform for Debian-ARM: GLAN Tank (and SH4 LAN Tank)

Hi all, If there is no machine which a developer can use, here is a different answer. --- GLAN Tank Media Server "Challenger", the PC power-user brand of I-O DATA Japan, announced its latest media server product, GLAN Tank, for January 2006. It's bare bone kit product. The case can embark two 3.5-

Re: No insulting messages?

"Sven Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, will use that nexty time. I don't know if native speaker realise this, because many non-native speaker seem to have a fluent english, but there are times when the right words just don't come, and you are graspin

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:56:36AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Denis Barbier a écrit : > >Ditto, but this should be done for all sarge stable releases, which is a > >lot of work. IMO splitting timezone data into a seperate package in > >the next sarge release would help future releases, if this

Re: [desktop] ¿Dead?

Janez Rabzelj Zappone wrote: > Hi, the project is dead? > I am using Debian on the desktop right now. Maybe you are confusing it with one of the BSDs. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: 3rd party modules in the archive

#include * Bastian Blank [Thu, Mar 16 2006, 07:19:22PM]: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:51:05PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > WTF has this to do with Sven now? > > Maybe because Sven and I worked on a solution for this problem. Hoookay... > > However, I have been tol

[desktop] ¿Dead?

Hi, the project is dead? -- Janez Rabzelj ZapponeLinux User #402958Debian Etch/Testing GNU/Linux

Re: cross-compiling Debian packages

Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: I think I know now what the problem is, see below... On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:35:41PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: As you see, I get depends with -dcv1 suffix as well as -cross suffix. Yes, it's exactly what it should do. Each package xxx-ar

Re: Re: removal of svenl from the project

Hi Pierre, just so that we are clear, I consider your first mail a personal insult already, especially given that your decision is based on irc logs. dilinger's proposition is certainly personal, as it targets only Sven and fortunately not the whole Project. It doesn't have to be an insult

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Discussing or working for Etch?

It seems that the project is splitting in two groups basically: The people that wants to work together and release Etch, and the people that with a reason or not wants to see it delayed. The minute after the release team announces that we're going to delay our next release, we will stop with these

Re: cross-compiling Debian packages

> I think I know now what the problem is, see below... > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:35:41PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > As you see, I get depends with -dcv1 suffix as well as -cross > > > suffix. > > > > Yes, it's exactly what it should do. > > Each package xxx-arm-cross package cr

Bug#357310: ITP: festvox-te-nsk -- Speaker for Telugu Festival. Consists of voice definition and speech database.

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Prasad R Kadambi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: festvox-te-nsk Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Chaitanya Kamisetty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=159819 * License

Bug#357307: ITP: festival-te -- festival-te package provides the modules required to synthesize speech in telugu language using festival tts synthesizer.

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Prasad R Kadambi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: festival-te Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Chaitanya Kamisetty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=159819 * License : (

Expulsion of Andres, GR against expulsion process

When you start an expulsion process with such a poor rationale, it's pretty obvious it's going to fail. 2 small IRC logs do not constitute a rationale for starting this process. Starting an expulsion process against someone working in the same team is a strong indication that the problem isn't a

Re: cross-compiling Debian packages

> > As you see, I get depends with -dcv1 suffix as well as -cross suffix. Yes, it's exactly what it should do. Each package xxx-arm-cross package created with dpkg-cross >= 1.26 will Provide: xxx-arm-dcv1. In your case, this will not allow libc6-arm-cross created by older dpkg-cross to satisfy d

Re: 3rd party modules in the archive

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:51:05PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > WTF has this to do with Sven now? Maybe because Sven and I worked on a solution for this problem. > However, I have been told that it is no > longer allowed to upload binary packages that do not appear in

Bug#357312: ITP: cryptonit -- A client side PKI cryptographic tool

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cryptonit Version : 0.9.6 (Not yet published) Upstream Author : IDEALX S.A.S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cryptonit.org/ * License : GPL Description : A cl

Re: Attractive platform for Debian people interested in ARM: NSLU2

Hamish Moffatt wrote: > The cheapest disk at my local computer store is the same price as > the NSLU2 itself. And I don't really need 100Gb for it. Personally, I just dug into my old hardware stacks and found some low capacity laptop hard drives, which, with a $10 enclosure, makes a nice cheap dis

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:39:42PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote: [...] > > In the meantime, we are wasting precious DD and DAM time to satisfy > Andres' need for a revenge on Sven. > *Sigh*. This has absolutely *nothing* to do w/ "revenge on Sven". Sven himself has stated that he doesn't underst

Re: {SPAM} Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

Em Qui, 2006-03-16 às 15:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:46:59PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > Em Seg, 2006-03-13 ?s 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > > Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > > >This is a call for help :). If you want to help, just take over the task >

Re: cross-compiling Debian packages

I think I know now what the problem is, see below... On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:35:41PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > > As you see, I get depends with -dcv1 suffix as well as -cross suffix. > > Yes, it's exactly what it should do. > Each package xxx-arm-cross package created with dpkg

3rd party modules in the archive

#include * Andres Salomon [Wed, Mar 15 2006, 02:45:42PM]: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:20:20PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.03.15.1512 +0100]: > For starters, I/we need to figure out a sane way to deal w/ 3rd party kernel > modules. I'm n

Bug#357299: ITP: o3read -- standalone converter for OpenOffice.org documents

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: o3read Version : 0.0.4 Upstream Author : Ulric Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://siag.nu/o3read/ * License

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On 16 Mar 2006, Alexis Sukrieh uttered the following: > I don't beleive feeding this thread more will fix anything regarding > the "Sven social issue". > > What about killing this thread now? > > Let's stop wasting our time and energy now, and go back to work, > shall we? The issue is wh

Re: Mediation not Politics (Re: removal of svenl from the project)

On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:57:42PM -0500, C Shore wrote: > Abstract Thanks for your message, this indeed sums up my feeling very well. As for mediation, seeing the thing go into an impass, i asked Andreas Barth (on the technical comittee) to mediate on thursday/friday, and went into offline land,

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:18:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > When I tried to open a dialogue, I was told that kernel > package was crap, it was broken shit, and I was lucky that people > had not yanked it out of the dependencies of the official packaging. > Not a very conducive at

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On 16 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 06:33:00PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 15 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this: >>> You did never intent to do so, since you clearly said numerous >>> time that you where frustrated with the kernel team taking over >>> your work

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:46:59PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > Em Seg, 2006-03-13 ?s 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > >This is a call for help :). If you want to help, just take over the task > > >of setting a uclibc-i386 buildd up. > > What is the need for buildd

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 03:39:41PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > > >[2] http://www.emdebian.org/slind.html > > > This one looks dead. > > I understand we live in a gentoo-driven 0-day bleeding edge culture, but > this is quite spectacular deducment. SLIND was published exactly two > weeks ago in F

Re: Attractive platform for Debian people interested in ARM: NSLU2

* Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-16 18:51]: > Is it possible to use root-on-NFS rather than a USB disk? > I expect this would mean a suitable kernel image flashed into the NSLU2, > and a pre-prepared root tarball to be extracted on the host. Suitable initramfs, yes. I'm fairly busy a

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On 15-Mar-06, 18:07 (CST), An?bal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It appears as if you're diagnosing svenl with the "same disease" > that you're suffering. > > Is the desease called obsessive-compulsive disorder? I was using "disease" in a humorous way, not intending to fall down t

Re: First AMD64 Binary Uploaded

Anthony Towns writes: > Hi all, > > binutils | 2.16.1cvs20060117-1 | unstable | source, alpha, amd64, [...] > > Over the next couple of days, the rest of build-essential will be rebuilt, > followed by the rest of the archive. You should be able to watch the > progress somewhat via: > > h

i am not reading d-d anymore, and will reply only to personal mail or CCs.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:15:15PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Replying to this since it is addressed to me personally. Err, ... This line seems to add some incomprehension. I am no more readin debian-devel, nor any of the other mailing lists. Steve, on irc, has informed about the mail he was goi

Re: removal of svenl from the project

Hello, I don't beleive feeding this thread more will fix anything regarding the "Sven social issue". What about killing this thread now? Let's stop wasting our time and energy now, and go back to work, shall we? Best regards, Alexis. -- Alexis Sukrieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:39:42PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote: > So, this expulsion process looks more like a good way to hurt Sven > than anything else. If it fails (hint: it will) Andres will be > kind of singled-out, > and this whole thing will turn into "I can't bear this > guy, please kick h

Re: cross-compiling Debian packages

On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 10:56:35PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > > > >You may look at dpkg-cross ... > > > > I did, and I'm using it, thanks:-) > > > > What is the deal BTW with that new rewrite_dependencies (as of 1.26) > > producing bogus names with > > -dcv1 suffix? I had to comment

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 06:33:00PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 15 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this: > > You did never intent to do so, since you clearly said numerous time > > that you where frustrated with the kernel team taking over your work > > on kernel-package, and that you put self-co

Re: removal of svenl from the project

Filipus Klutiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > Seriously, it's strange that you state that without > explanation. dilinger started a process to expulse svenl. > If the expulsion "suceeds", hopefully we'll be coherent and recognize > dilinger for doing something good. > But if it fails, does th

Re: removal of svenl from the project

Hello Andres, On Tue, 14.03.2006 at 21:01:09 -0500, Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed > from the project. The process is outlined here: > , > and I

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Well I am currently trying to split the glibc to not have libraries and > binaries in the same package (that will be a problem for multiarch). > While I am doing that, I can also put the timezone data in a separate > package. Please do. That will be

Re: removal of svenl from the project

Replying to this since it is addressed to me personally. On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 01:48:17AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Do you understand that the fact that you *do* reply to every single message > in a thread is something that makes people not want to deal with you? > Nobody wants to try to ha

Re: ITP: kmfl -- Keyboard Mapping for Linux

Some people asked for more explanation of what KMFL is[1]. Here is an extended description from upstream. We are hopefully going to get a more condensed version for the package description. Regards, Daniel [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/09/msg01161.html KMFL stands for “Keyboard M

Re: No insulting messages?

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:23:45AM -0500, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > >But do you think that anything i said in those is insulting in some way, > >or a > >reason for me to be expelled from debian ? > > > > Referring to what came after that, I guess "jonas going on with his > bullshit" is pretty

Re: removing logfiles on purge

On Mar 16, Philipp Matthias Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about providing some dpkg-purge / dh_purge which basically does the > following: What about not inventing complex solutions for a simple problem which has already been solved long ago? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description:

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

Denis Barbier a écrit : On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:22:50PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Lionel Elie Mamane a écrit : - glibc maintainers, would you approve of such an update to a point release of sarge? I am *one* of the glibc maintainer, and I agree in principle with such a change, thoug

Re: removal of svenl from the project

Having been invoked twice now in this thread, I feel compelled to comment. I guess that seems to be a common enough weakness in this community, right? In this case, I feel it's justified to reply to you because you really don't seem to get why people have a problem with your behavior, and I think y

Re: removing logfiles on purge

Hi1 On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 01:46:40AM -0500, sean finney wrote: > i don't have enough time to find it, but like a couple years (or > more?) ago there was a very, very long thread about logfile removal. > > the "should logfiles be removed on purge" question can actually be > deconstructed into sma

Re: Balancing the noise between -devel and -private?

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:34:01AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear developpers, Thanks for your input, but this message is off-topic on -devel. Please consider using -project for non-technical discussions next time. Michael PS: The svenl thread is off-topic as well and should be on -projec

Re: Re: removal of svenl from the project

On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 04:41:59PM +0800, Ozgur Karatas wrote: > irc.freenode.net > > join channel #debian Please try to stay on topic or at least explain your points. Anyway, we had enough of 'I don't know Sven really, but I dislike expulsions, so no' emails for this thread, your voices will al

No insulting messages?

But do you think that anything i said in those is insulting in some way, or a reason for me to be expelled from debian ? Referring to what came after that, I guess "jonas going on with his bullshit" is pretty close to an insult. I am also natively French-speaking, but I think you will agree

Re: Re: removal of svenl from the project

I want to see you leave the Project if the expulsion process of both dilinger and svenl fails. Seriously, it's strange that you state that without explanation. dilinger started a process to expulse svenl. If the expulsion "suceeds", hopefully we'll be coherent and recognize dilinger for doing

Re: Re: removal of svenl from the project

irc.freenode.net join channel #debian > - Original Message - > From: "Filipus Klutiero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Re: removal of svenl from the project > Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:34:41 -0500 > > > > > > > > He were slandering somebody and ot

Re: Re: removal of svenl from the project

He were slandering somebody and others were listening/reading without telling him that the behaviour is impolite? Well, then maybe it shows us all (or at least the readers) in a bad light. I'm pretty sure Sven recognized himself that he was impolite, but others certainly made him realize tha

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:48:11PM +0100, Samuel Mimram wrote: > Hi, > > Andres Salomon wrote: > >On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:59:46AM -0500, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > >Thanks for yours and Ralf's responses. To be honest, I wasn't expecting > >anyone to actually say that they *enjoyed* workin

Re: removal of svenl from the project

On 16.03. 11:07, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:48:38PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > >I'm a little sympathetic, because I used to suffer from the same > >disease, and I still have the occasional outbreak, but I'm trying > >hard, and mostly getting better. I think. >

Re: versioned symbols in shared libraries (upstream != Debian)

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:50:14 -0500, Sean Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >*2 YEARS AGO* you open a bug report saying they should do this, and >their response is "we don't plan to do this, you should only have >one version of mysql installed". > >So then we do all the legwork to get versioned symb