>>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Daniel> However I don't think you'd be right to hold a grudge Daniel> against anyone who refused to apply it. If Matthew raised Daniel> some issues with your patch, why did you not fix them? Daniel> Surely removing a debugging printk and moving the #include Daniel> to the head of the file would've been pretty obvious. Is holding a grudge against somebody grounds for expelling the developer? I think not. Daniel> It's not an isolated event, either. My refusal to apply a Daniel> patch which was unprecedented in the xorg packaging, for Daniel> an issue that I feel (with not insignificant Daniel> justification) is a purely hardware issue was presented as Daniel> me hating on Pegasos. Similarly, your refusal to fix the Daniel> patch you provided was also presented as the kernel team Daniel> despising you and the Pegasos. (Money being paid or no. Daniel> Principles are principles, mmm?) Based on this quote: I would suggest that there might be better techniques one can use to influence somebody to apply a patch. Burning bridges not included. I can't help but get the impression Daniel may have prematurely discounted the patch - admittedly I may not understand the issues though. Most likely all parties involved from room for improvement. Making a developer a scapegoat on a public mailing list isn't going to make anybody improve their behaviour, more likely the person is going to get defensive and refuse to admit they did anything wrong (as this thread demonstrates, or at least what I have read so far - all parties seems to be saying: I am right - you are wrong). I get the impression Sven has contributed a lot to get Linux working on Pegasos. Do we really want to force him to leave? I think not. Would it achieve anything beneficial? I think not. So everyone calm down. Then consider what *you* could have done differently to avoid this conflict from arising. Do so in such a way you are not blaming anyone else, no matter how much you might dislike the other people involved. If you are game, provide a list here. Otherwise, consider sending a private letter of apology to the other party for anything you could have done differently. Then once you have done this, realize there is only one thing left to do. Find the guilty party. There is only one guilty party. IT WAS ALL TUX' FAULT! TUX IS EVIL! EXPEL TUX NOW! BURN TUX! -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]