Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

Peter Samuelson wrote: >>>Yes, I'm aware that if it's possible to revoke the GPL, it fails >>>the Tentacles of Evil test, and GPL software would be completely >>>unsuitable for any serious deployment. > > > [Roberto C. Sanchez] > >>But it can't be done, period. >> >>Reference: http://www.gnu.org

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

> > Yes, I'm aware that if it's possible to revoke the GPL, it fails > > the Tentacles of Evil test, and GPL software would be completely > > unsuitable for any serious deployment. [Roberto C. Sanchez] > But it can't be done, period. > > Reference: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Tha

Re: Entries in Packages files that lack a Source field

Adeodato Simó wrote: As you probably know, entries in the Packages file only have a Source field if the name of the source package is different from the name of the binary package being described. This is an inconsistency that makes it a bit harder to massage this data, e.g. with grep-dctrl

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

> "Peter" == Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> [Thomas Bushnell BSG] >> Um: >> >> /bin/mount foo:whatever /bin I was considering commenting on this, I think if you want to start going down this track it would be simpler to write/adapt a script that automatica

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Bug#309722: ITP: xwc -- lightweight Explorer-like file manager

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xwc Version : 0.91.5a Upstream Author : Maxim Baranov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://xwc.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : lightweight Explore

big usermem kernel patch

Greetings! It seems that we are in need of a 'big usermem' kernel patch in Debian, so I am considering contributing such a package. It appears there are two approaches on the net, both in various incarnations of redhat: 1) user-tunable /proc/self/mapped_base -- this allows setuid processes to

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

On 5/18/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is completely not possible. Once you offer (and someone accepts) > code under the terms of the GPL, they are for evermore entitled to use > *that* code under the GPL. There are some exceptions to this. For example, if you're not th

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

On 5/18/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Samuelson wrote: [snip] > > Yes, I'm aware that if it's possible to revoke the GPL, it fails the > > Tentacles of Evil test, and GPL software would be completely unsuitable > > for any serious deployment. Note, however, that "but it

Re: [Fwd: RFS: eaccelerator - PHP script cacher]

Jonathan Oxer wrote: > [CCd to relevant parties including the eAccelerator developers] > > Hi Roberto, > > Just a quick update on distributability of Turck-MMCache / eAccelerator: > I've now contacted Jeremy Malcolm of iLaw (who also happens to be a DD!) > and provided him with a brief history of

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

On 5/18/05, Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I know at least one developer on a prominent open source project who > believes otherwise, and claims to be prepared to revoke their license > to her code, if they do certain things to piss her off. Presumably > this is grounded on th

Re: [Fwd: RFS: eaccelerator - PHP script cacher]

[CCd to relevant parties including the eAccelerator developers] Hi Roberto, Just a quick update on distributability of Turck-MMCache / eAccelerator: I've now contacted Jeremy Malcolm of iLaw (who also happens to be a DD!) and provided him with a brief history of the two projects, and asked him to

Re: Release update: freeze progress, closing date for non-RC fixes

On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 12:55:12AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 04:42:35PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > >... > > According to , the official > > count of release-critical bugs affecting testing is 61. Since security > > bugs are an

Re: Release update: freeze progress, closing date for non-RC fixes

On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 01:49:06AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > - the exclusion of bugs that are tagged both "sarge" and "sid" > > (e.g. #303860) is obviously wrong > BTW: is there a way to make unstable updates not close the bugs in question > but

Re: packages missing from sarge

Steve Langasek wrote: With the delays in getting t-p-u built across architectures, that's not long enough for me to be comfortable. I didn't realize t-p-u took so long. But I suppose that's the way it is. Thanks for the explanation, and thank you for your work on getting Sarge out the door! -- T

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

Peter Samuelson wrote: > I know at least one developer on a prominent open source project who > believes otherwise, and claims to be prepared to revoke their license > to her code, if they do certain things to piss her off. Presumably > this is grounded on the basis of her having received no cons

Re: Debian as living system

Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > debian-devel has acquired a reputation for being rather unfriendly and > intimidating place, but there's no need to perpetuate that. > Politeness doesn't take much more effort than being rude. I don't think one should judge debian-devel based on this thoug

Re: Release update: freeze progress, closing date for non-RC fixes

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > - the exclusion of bugs that are tagged both "sarge" and "sid" > (e.g. #303860) is obviously wrong BTW: is there a way to make unstable updates not close the bugs in question but mark them woody and/or sarge? If not, should the changelog simply contain

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

[Charles Iliya Krempeaux] > It seem to me that they got in trouble for doing so. And then tried > to "take things back". But the GPL doesn't allow for that. It seems to me that this is another of those things everyone takes for a postulate just because the FSF said so. Rather like the assumption

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No. Debian is figuring it out. My whole point is that you've shifted > the job of doing so to the site admin. If you are expecting dpkg to > take on the responsibility for peeking under people's mounted /bin > directories and installing/upgrading th

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

> > That's a huge administrative hassle. Not only do you have to figure > > out what programs and libraries /bin/mount depends on so you can make > > sure they're on your real root partition, but the packaging system > > doesn't - and shouldn't - do anything to help you keep the two copies > > of

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

Hello, Yes, you are correct.  I am assuming that. As far as I can tell, even if AOL didn't approve it, NullSoft, being the owners of the code, are "allowed" and able to release the code under whatever license they want to release it under.  (Whether they'll get in trouble or not from AOL, for doi

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Re: Debian as living system

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 18 May 2005, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:46:33PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote: >> >> I agree that the previous mail was not very

Re: Release update: freeze progress, closing date for non-RC fixes

On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 04:42:35PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >... > According to , the official > count of release-critical bugs affecting testing is 61. Since security > bugs are an, er, "renewable resource", and can be fixed out-of-band, we > can excl

Re: debian.org email forwarding

On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 03:55:36PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Thanks to base64, I never forward any windows virus to myself, they > are kept in my ~/mail directory. See my ~/pmrc/executables in master > for generic anti windows-executable recipes. I recently found this other source of procmail

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 06:53:59PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 04:25:02PM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > Certainly there would have been ways to tell Bluefuture that his mail > > was hard to read/understand without becoming offensive. > > No, really, there isn't. It

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:38:33AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: >> This just seems like change for the sake of change, with trivial benefits, >> if any. > > I agree, and I admit to not having read this whole thread, but has anyone > made a serious argumen

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Thomas Bushnell BSG] >> Um: >> >> /bin/mount foo:whatever /bin > > That's a huge administrative hassle. Not only do you have to figure > out what programs and libraries /bin/mount depends on so you can make > sure they're on your real root partiti

Re: Debian as living system

Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No, really, there isn't. It is not possible to send mail to a Debian > mailing list any more without offending somebody. Even if your mail > contains nothing but trivially verifiable facts, somebody will still > be offended (often inexplicably, and som

Re: RFC on mysql 4.1 in sarge

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:00:29PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > 4 drop mysql-dfsg-4.1 from unstable/sarge not exactly an attractive option, but i guess everything is on the table at this point so it's worth bringing up... the reverse dependencies aren't nearly as severe as i had assumed, actually,

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

This topic has been beat to death and is the cause for most of the devs bailing throughout the life of the project (legal concerns). There are a couple old articles on /. that should cover all the arguments (in the comments)...but I'm sure you'll find them all over. here's one: http://slashdot.o

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:40:06AM -0700, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: > Now, from what I understand, once you release something under the GPL, you > cannot un-release it. And if that is the case, then this software is "OK". You're assuming the people who released it had the right to do that in

Re: RFC on mysql 4.1 in sarge

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:23:35AM -0400, sean finney wrote: >... > the following upgrade paths work: > > mysql-server/woody -> mysql-server/sarge > mysql-server/woody -> mysql-server/sarge -> mysql-server-4.1/sarge > > but this does not: > > mysql-server/woody -> mysql-server-4.1/sarge > > so

Re: Debian as living system

On 5/18/05, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 01:41:34PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > > On 5/18/05, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah, well. But he's still right. This once. > > > > Is there some reason why "eat a dictionary" had to be co

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

On Wed, 18 May 2005, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: > > >From what I understand of the history of WASTE. At one time, NullSoft did > infact release WASTE under the GPL. However, AOL (NullSoft's parent company) > didn't like this, and that message on NullSoft's website is because of that. > (And thu

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 01:41:34PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > On 5/18/05, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, well. But he's still right. This once. > > Is there some reason why "eat a dictionary" had to be copied to all of > debian-devel in order to inform "bluefuture" of

Re: Debian as living system

On 5/18/05, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure. And this list subscribers deserve some apologies for myself > being annoyed enough to be impolite to them and write ununderstandable > prose hereeven if obviously on purpose. Well, I enjoyed it immensely, despite my execrable Fre

Re: Debian as living system

On 5/18/05, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, well. But he's still right. This once. Is there some reason why "eat a dictionary" had to be copied to all of debian-devel in order to inform "bluefuture" of his linguistic difficulties? (I ask this knowing full well that my own pot h

Re: Debian as living system

> > Comme vous le voyez, la cuistrerie, cela se cultive... > > Quelle verve :) A en faire pâlir Cyrano de Bergerac ma foi ! > La liste est cependant anglophone je pense, et nos pauvres collègues non Sure. And this list subscribers deserve some apologies for myself being annoyed enough to be im

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

Hello, (Sorry for just intejecting into the discussion like this, but) >From what I understand of the history of WASTE.  At one time, NullSoft did infact release WASTE under the GPL.  However, AOL (NullSoft's parent company) didn't like this, and that message on NullSoft's website is because o

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 06:19:58PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 04:36:18PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 04:25:02PM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > > > You would rather have silence than know why you are being ignored? > > > > Then silence

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:38:33AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > This just seems like change for the sake of change, with trivial benefits, > if any. I agree, and I admit to not having read this whole thread, but has anyone made a serious argument as to why we need yet another directory for non-u

Re: [debian-devel] Is SZALAY Attila MIA?

It is common for developers to be buried in other work, I know, I often get this way, it is understandable. However, it has now been several months and as section 3.4 of the Developers Reference says: its important "... to let the others know that you're unavailable." So, I think it is appropriate

Re: Debian as living system

Le Mercredi 18 Mai 2005 18:02, Christian Perrier a écrit : > Quoting Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I really don't care. If somebody can't be bothered to write a mail in > > comprehensible English, they shouldn't expect anybody else to bother > > to read it. Most won't even bother to say

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, 18 May 2005, Roger Leigh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:46:33PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote: > >> I agree that the previous mail was not very easy to read, nor written in a > >> great

Re: Debian as living system

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:46:33PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote: >> I agree that the previous mail was not very easy to read, nor written in a >> great english. But I don't think that being fluent in engli

Re: [debian-devel] Is SZALAY Attila MIA?

Hi! He is just overworked a bit, just like me. Trying to do something soon. Sorry. -- GNU GPL: csak tiszta forrásból

Re: Debian as living system

On 5/18/05, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really don't care. If somebody can't be bothered to write a mail in > comprehensible English, they shouldn't expect anybody else to bother > to read it. Most won't even bother to say why they didn't bother to > read it. He's lucky that I di

Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 14:20 +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm on the way of making a debian package for Waste, and I would have the > folowing two questions about your software: > > Does the licence really reflect GPL? > This arise because of this: > http://cvs.sourceforge.net

Re: Is SZALAY Attila MIA?

Hi, On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 19:38 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > It's been 'only' a few months since nothing has been heard -- I've added > your hint now to the MIA database for later followup, and will orphan > when no reaction is forthcoming after a number of pings, so that you can > take o

Re: Is SZALAY Attila MIA?

On Wed, 18 May 2005, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 12:19:50PM -0500, Micah Anderson wrote: > > At what point would it be appropriate to begin to actively maintain > > syslog-ng? > > It's been 'only' a few months since nothing has been heard -- I've added > your hint now t

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 04:25:02PM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > Certainly there would have been ways to tell Bluefuture that his mail > was hard to read/understand without becoming offensive. No, really, there isn't. It is not possible to send mail to a Debian mailing list any more without offe

Re: Bug#309669: kscope: wishlist bug

reassign 309669 wnpp retitle 309669 RFP: kscope -- Source Editing Environment for KDE thanks * Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-18 22:40]: > Package: kscope > Severity: wishlist > > New wishlist bug. > Please include kscope as a package. > http://kscope.sourceforge.net Anyone inter

Re: new cogito package, OpenSSL license issue resolved

Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For people trying this out, Zach Brown wrote some excellent > documentation [1]. It would be nice to see this end up in the debian > packages. I'm hoping the upstream maintainer (Pasky) will pick up that patch. If he doesnt in the next several days, I'

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 10:02:30AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > I should mention that I'm still waiting for your benchmark > results on how a drastic reduction in /usr/lib size speeds up the > runtime linker. On *any* filesystem, O(n)-lookups or not. > > (In case you missed it, I explained how

Re: new cogito package, OpenSSL license issue resolved

On Fri, 13 May 2005 23:44:05 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > I've updated the Cogito package to compile against the upstream-included > GPL SHA1 implementation lifted from Mozilla, instead of the (possibly) > GPL-incompatible OpenSSL code. Thanks to Florian Weimer and Anibal > Monsalve Salaza

Re: Is SZALAY Attila MIA?

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 12:19:50PM -0500, Micah Anderson wrote: > At what point would it be appropriate to begin to actively maintain > syslog-ng? It's been 'only' a few months since nothing has been heard -- I've added your hint now to the MIA database for later followup, and will orphan when no

Entries in Packages files that lack a Source field

Hello all, As you probably know, entries in the Packages file only have a Source field if the name of the source package is different from the name of the binary package being described. This is an inconsistency that makes it a bit harder to massage this data, e.g. with grep-dctrl. Befo

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 07:21:26AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > For me, this is a closed issue until you change the FHS. (Something that > > I don't think is very likely to happen, but best of luck to you.) > > Since the FHS tries to be respo

Is SZALAY Attila MIA?

Is SZALAY Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIA? His last upload was over three months ago (Feb 10th, 2005) and does not respond to his emails. I've tried contacting him via his debian email address with no success (first message sent April 13th, CC'd co-maintainer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who responded; sent

Re: remove stale conffiles?

* Joerg Sommer [Thu, 05 May 2005 20:39:57 +]: > Hi, > in an old version of jed-common two conffiles 00site.sl and 99debian.sl > were included. But caused by some reason they aren't removed on upgrade. > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=266981 > Becomes a conffile held if it w

Re: Debian as living system

Quoting Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I really don't care. If somebody can't be bothered to write a mail in > comprehensible English, they shouldn't expect anybody else to bother > to read it. Most won't even bother to say why they didn't bother to > read it. He's lucky that I did, and sh

Re: RFC on mysql 4.1 in sarge

Quoting sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: so at this point, we're not sure what to do to cover this last problem, as we have no guarantee the preinst of mysql-server-4.1 will even run before mysql-server/woody is removed. the only fix we can think of is to remove the two directories from the files

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 04:36:18PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 04:25:02PM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > > You would rather have silence than know why you are being ignored? > > > Then silence you shall have. > > Well, its the tone that makes the music we use to sa

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RFC on mysql 4.1 in sarge

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Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

[Thomas Bushnell BSG] > Um: > > /bin/mount foo:whatever /bin That's a huge administrative hassle. Not only do you have to figure out what programs and libraries /bin/mount depends on so you can make sure they're on your real root partition, but the packaging system doesn't - and shouldn't - d

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 04:25:02PM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > You would rather have silence than know why you are being ignored? > > Then silence you shall have. > Well, its the tone that makes the music we use to say here in Germany. > Certainly there would have been ways to tell Bluefutur

Re: Debian as living system

> You would rather have silence than know why you are being ignored? > Then silence you shall have. Well, its the tone that makes the music we use to say here in Germany. Certainly there would have been ways to tell Bluefuture that his mail was hard to read/understand without becoming offensive.

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For me, this is a closed issue until you change the FHS. (Something that > I don't think is very likely to happen, but best of luck to you.) Since the FHS tries to be responsive to what different distributions want, this doesn't help in the question: Sh

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Thomas" == Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Thomas> We've been told that /usr is necessary to allow network > Thomas> sharing. Of course, you can network share any directory, > Thomas> not just /usr. If you want executa

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> Wait, are you serious? The bloat of /usr/lib having thousands of >> files doesn't bother you, but the two dozen in /usr is bothersome? > > We dont talk about thousands, on a edium sized system it is a few h

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:57:12PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote: > Le Mercredi 18 Mai 2005 15:48, Andrew Suffield a écrit : > > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:46:33PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote: > > > I agree that the previous mail was not very easy to read, nor written in > > > a great english. But I

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Re: Debian as living system

Le Mercredi 18 Mai 2005 15:48, Andrew Suffield a ÃcritÂ: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:46:33PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote: > > I agree that the previous mail was not very easy to read, nor written in > > a great english. But I don't think that being fluent in english should be > > a requirement to

Re: Debian as living system

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:46:33PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote: > I agree that the previous mail was not very easy to read, nor written in a > great english. But I don't think that being fluent in english should be a > requirement to be treated nicely on a development list... You are lucky > eno

Re: Debian as living system

Andrew, I agree that the previous mail was not very easy to read, nor written in a great english. But I don't think that being fluent in english should be a requirement to be treated nicely on a development list... You are lucky enough to have this language as your mother tongue, consider this

Re: Debian as living system

Your mail was borderline incomprehensible and certainly not worth the effort it would have required for me to read it. Go and eat a dictionary. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><-

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Re: distributed batch processing

On 18 May 2005, at 8:18 am, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 17 mai 2005 à 23:47 -0700, Ron Chen a écrit : All of those are opensource (even the EE mode) and can be downloaded from the SGE homepage: http://gridengine.sunsource.net At first glance, this doesn't look DFSG-free. Indeed not, but it's l

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Wait, are you serious? The bloat of /usr/lib having thousands of > files doesn't bother you, but the two dozen in /usr is bothersome? We dont talk about thousands, on a edium sized system it is a few hundred directories and up to thousand files/symlinks

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Most packages had files in /usr/doc. Most packages do not have files in > /usr/lib at all, and most of those that do, wouldn't need to be changed. Changing from /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc was a fairly simple and straightforward change in a whole

Props, not prods [was: Prods to the ftpmasters]

also sprach Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.05.18.0342 +0200]: > > Thanks a lot for your work, and for making Debian a more pleasurable > > place for developers! > > That sounds like props, not like prods... Lol. Well, I hope my intentions were clear. Sorry, 't was late. -- Please d

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 12:14:19AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I'm just not seeing any benefits that are worth bloating /usr. > > Wait, are you serious? The bloat of /usr/lib having thousands of > files doesn't bother you, but the two dozen in /usr is bothersome? Huh? Using libexec wou

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

> "Thomas" == Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> We've been told that /usr is necessary to allow network Thomas> sharing. Of course, you can network share any directory, Thomas> not just /usr. If you want executables to be shared, then Thomas> share /bin.

Re: distributed batch processing

Le mardi 17 mai 2005 à 23:47 -0700, Ron Chen a écrit : > All of those are opensource (even the EE mode) and can > be downloaded from the SGE homepage: > > http://gridengine.sunsource.net At first glance, this doesn't look DFSG-free. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' :

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Most applications I've seen that use libexec make it entirely trivial > to move it to /usr/lib: "./configure --libexecdir=/usr/lib". (I don't > think apps that don't do this, or something like it, should be a major > consideration here--take apps out of

Re: distributed batch processing

Just a few things to clarify: With SGE 5.3, the FIFO is the default scheduling policy. However, you can configure the scheduler to run in SGE EE (Enterprise Edition) mode, which has the 4 additional scheduling policies (deadline, share tree, override, and functional). With SGE 6.0, you get resourc