On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:16:31 +0100, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>* Torsten Landschoff:
>> Wanted to do that - but! Does svk handle symlinks? Thinking of
>> /etc/rc?.d and /etc/alternatives... Wrote my own scripts to handle svn
>> for /etc but they are still quite hackish...
>
>Subvers
Hi all!
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Do you think moria still has a place in Debian? Or do you gather it
> > might be better removed?
>
> A better question is whether Mr. Koeneke is willing to relicense his
> code under a free software license so that moria and angband and
> derivatives ca
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> And I've never read "ITO" as a tag for orphaning bug.
This would be RFA?
Greetings
Bernd
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[Matt Zimmerman]
> You can use Ubuntu and do Debian development in a chroot, or use Debian and
> do Ubuntu development in a chroot. So, you're free to pick whichever you
> prefer, but it will be more convenient to run the system where you will do
> (more of) your development.
Yes, and use pbuilde
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:22:01PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Can someone with mips and/or libtool expertise examine the build
> failure for gnucash below, and see if they can diagnose the problem?
> http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=gnucash&ver=1.8.10-5&arch=mips&stamp=1107337123&
Can someone with mips and/or libtool expertise examine the build
failure for gnucash below, and see if they can diagnose the problem?
http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=gnucash&ver=1.8.10-5&arch=mips&stamp=1107337123&file=log&as=raw
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also sprach Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.02.15.1314 +0100]:
> > b. Developers do not tag bugs, they sign packages. Is that what you
> >meant? Also, note that at the moment, most only sign source
> >packages and binary uploads, not the binary packages themselves.
>
> NACK. you lost
* Kevin Mark [Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:09:03 -0500]:
> > And I've never read "ITO" as a tag for orphaning bug. Either one mails
> > to -devel (or wherever) saying that they intend to give away or orphan
> > some packages, but this isn't a bug, just conversation. In the BTS, I
> > think the tag is simpl
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 02:04:17AM -0400, Maykel Moya wrote:
> I'd recently adquire a little laptop (p3 900, 256 MB RAM). I'm been
> thinking to install Ubuntu in it cause Ubuntu is optimized for desktop,
> but I'd like to package some stuff for Debian.
>
> Is it advisable to use a pure Debian in
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Well OK, but please be aware of the cases where a kid leaves his
> > village for a trip to the big city and his single chance to do an
> > apt-get dist-upgrade. He can't just try again tomorrow if t
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well OK, but please be aware of the cases where a kid leaves his
> village for a trip to the big city and his single chance to do an
> apt-get dist-upgrade. He can't just try again tomorrow if things
> don't work out.
So what? Then they don't have the b
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well OK, but please be aware of the cases where a kid leaves his
> village for a trip to the big city and his single chance to do an
> apt-get dist-upgrade. He can't just try again tomorrow if things
> don't work out.
I'm inclined to think that people s
I'd recently adquire a little laptop (p3 900, 256 MB RAM). I'm been
thinking to install Ubuntu in it cause Ubuntu is optimized for desktop,
but I'd like to package some stuff for Debian.
Is it advisable to use a pure Debian instead ?
Regards,
mike
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martin f krafft dijo [Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 04:47:27PM +0100]:
> Based on the work of Kevin Mark (URL not available, sorry), I have
> made a graph of the life cycle of a Debian package for inclusion in
> my forthcoming book (http://debianbook.info). You can find the
> sources and generated files at
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:34:38PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 02:27 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > Hi debianista,
> >
> > after my initial work on a diagram, and the comments and the work of
> > madduck, I had some time to redo my diagram to produce a totally new
> > concept
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 01:11:33PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
> martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > h. There are more rules as to when packages migrate from unstable to
> >testing.
> > i. You use both meanings of "priority" (changelog and control)
> >without making it clear wh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
>> I suppose I will start filing minor bugs against packages that do
>> this. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, though. (It occurs
>> to me that help output to stderr is arguably appropriate if an invalid
>> option is given). Part of the problem i
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:24:18AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Great work! I am glad to see you got down with dia; I love that
> tool. Here are some comments:
Its cool that it exports to xfig as a way to use both tools.
>
> a. I am not sure what the "process realm" is.
ACK. r
Ahoy!
Any developers on this list interested in some help porting an application from
LinuxThreads to NPTL? As part of a research project, I need to work through
these details, and figure I might as well make myself useful on a real
app rather
than mock up some braindead multithreaded hello world
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Well OK, but please be aware of the cases where a kid leaves his
> village for a trip to the big city and his single chance to do an
> apt-get dist-upgrade. He can't just try again tomorrow if things
> don't work out.
Unstable is definitely not for peop
Well OK, but please be aware of the cases where a kid leaves his
village for a trip to the big city and his single chance to do an
apt-get dist-upgrade. He can't just try again tomorrow if things
don't work out.
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This one time, at band camp, Matthew Palmer said:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 03:06:19PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:38:08AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > > Francesco P. Lovergine writes:
> > > > It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used
On Tuesday, 15 de February de 2005 19:53, Robert Koeneke wrote:
> Not sure why people are looking for me, but I received an e-mail containing
> a conversation thread claiming I am "unreachable". Last I checked I was
> pretty easy to reach through [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Moria is a game I wrote some
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:23:19PM +0430, Robert Koeneke wrote:
>
> Moria is a game I wrote some 20 years ago. Hard to believe anyone would
> still be playing it.
Good software (and concepts) never dies. If you google for "Moria variant"
you will actually see that not only people are still play
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 02:27 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> Hi debianista,
>
> after my initial work on a diagram, and the comments and the work of
> madduck, I had some time to redo my diagram to produce a totally new
> concept. any comment appreciated.
>
> http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/newdebian.p
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Robert Koeneke wrote:
> Moria is a game I wrote some 20 years ago. Hard to believe anyone would
> still be playing it.
Please drop by: http://www.thangorodrim.net to have an idea of how much
people still play Moria and games based on it.
And also see what was done with you
> Do you think moria still has a place in Debian? Or do you gather it
> might be better removed?
A better question is whether Mr. Koeneke is willing to relicense his
code under a free software license so that moria and angband and
derivatives can finally be free.
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"H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Actually, in csh/tcsh it's very un-obnoxious: foo --help |& less
zsh too.
MfG
Goswin
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* Package name: cpufrequtils
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Hi Jeroen,
> How mirrors do their mirroring is up to the local mirror administrator,
> not to the general debian developer's community. Debian could promote
> this two-phase mirroring a bit more maybe, and/or provide nice scripts,
> that's probably why #6786 is still open.
>
> BUT DEBIAN CANNOT I
Scripsit A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> debianizer - isn't there a debian/rules way to do this now?
> no way at all
Yes way. See "debian/rules get-orig-source" in policy.
Rest of reply in debian-legal. Why are you posting the same thing
separately to two different lists?
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:23:19PM +0430, Robert Koeneke wrote:
>Not sure why people are looking for me, but I received an e-mail
>containing a conversation thread claiming I am "unreachable". Last I
>checked I was pretty easy to reach through [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Moria is a game
Not sure why people are looking for me, but I received an
e-mail containing a conversation thread claiming I am “unreachable”.
Last I checked I was pretty easy to reach through [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Moria is a game I wrote some 20 years ago. Hard to believe
anyone would still be playing
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:19:35 -0800
"H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:06:30PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> [...]
> > I occasionally install a program and need to know how to use it as
> > quickly as possible; for example, while reading through bug reports.
> > So
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:51:10PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> S> You've been told this before -- *debian-devel does not control the
> mirroring
> S> implementation used by arbitrary Debian mirrors*. Either talk to the
> mirror
> S> team and give them enough information to track this down, or -
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Frank Küster wrote:
> "Francesco P. Lovergine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:38:08AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> >> Francesco P. Lovergine writes:
> >> > It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for
> >> > either --help
S> You've been told this before -- *debian-devel does not control the mirroring
S> implementation used by arbitrary Debian mirrors*. Either talk to the mirror
S> team and give them enough information to track this down, or -- since you
S> know him well enough to be kept in the loop about his vacat
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:06:30PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
[...]
> I occasionally install a program and need to know how to use it as
> quickly as possible; for example, while reading through bug reports.
> So, I run foo --help. Sometimes, the help screen is more than 25
> lines long, and it s
"Francesco P. Lovergine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Quite difficult if the function is the same. In both cases it uses stderr.
Oh good grief. Add an argument to the function saying where to direct
the output. How hard is this?
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Francesco Paolo Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for
> either --help or invalid options. Not always GNU rules are
> followed appropriately.
Right, and in that case, it's a bug.
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"Francesco P. Lovergine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:38:08AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
>> Francesco P. Lovergine writes:
>> > It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for
>> > either --help or invalid options.
>>
>> Sure, but the output shoul
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 03:06:19PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:38:08AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > Francesco P. Lovergine writes:
> > > It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for
> > > either --help or invalid options.
> >
> > Sure
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 03:06:19PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:38:08AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > Francesco P. Lovergine writes:
> > > It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for
> > > either --help or invalid options.
> >
> > Sure
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:38:08AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Francesco P. Lovergine writes:
> > It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for
> > either --help or invalid options.
>
> Sure, but the output should still be directed correctly.
Quite difficult if the functio
Francesco P. Lovergine writes:
> It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for
> either --help or invalid options.
Sure, but the output should still be directed correctly.
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 12:31:18PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
>
> In that case, one would simply depend on that, and the shell wrapper
> would depend on an |-ed list of the encoders it understood. I still
> don't see that the virtual package could be useful.
Well, I dont see why mp3-encoder is us
ti, 2005-02-15 kello 10:19 +0100, Marco d'Itri kirjoitti:
> On Feb 15, Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I suppose I will start filing minor bugs against packages that do
> > this. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, though. (It occurs
> > to me that help output to stderr is a
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martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> h. There are more rules as to when packages migrate from unstable to
>testing.
> i. You use both meanings of "priority" (changelog and control)
>without making it clear which one is meant.
Furthermore, for testing propagation i'ts "urgency" tha
Your message dated Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:05:34 +
with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
and subject line Bug#295328: general: Help messages to stderr should be banned
has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done.
This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:19:12 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
> On Feb 15, Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I suppose I will start filing minor bugs against packages that do
> > this. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, though. (It occurs
> > to me that help out
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Upon apt-get, is it normal to every so often see "Package xxx has
> broken dep on yyy"? However the next day the problem is gone.
Yes.
> If normal, then can't whatever intermediate stage not be split across
> the mirror push? Somehow can consistent ve
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | - key management,
>
> - are able to review the key management part and
> - design and discuss this with the release team
> - (re-)design and discuss package updates and security updates
> - take into account that the archive key is rotated ye
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:19:12AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Feb 15, Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I suppose I will start filing minor bugs against packages that do
> > this. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, though. (It occurs
> > to me that help output to stderr
On Feb 15, Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suppose I will start filing minor bugs against packages that do
> this. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, though. (It occurs
> to me that help output to stderr is arguably appropriate if an invalid
> option is given). Part of the p
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:29:37AM +0100, David Schmitt wrote:
> Hi Kev, list!
>
> On Tuesday 15 February 2005 08:27, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > after my initial work on a diagram, and the comments and the work of
> > madduck, I had some time to redo my diagram to produce a totally new
> > concept. an
* Martin Schulze:
> Even though this will probably work well on a small scale, it won't on
> a large scale. Just think about the installations of 500 or 1000
> Debian machines that also have security support. This is not
> hypothetical. These installations do exist. You don't want to
> install
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, A Mennucc wrote:
> Henning Makholm wrote:
> >Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A Mennucc)
> >That is not a valid reason to pretend it is a native package. The
> >
> I object to this
>
> a file mplayerorig.tar.gz is, as the name says, the original
> distributed source
St
Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh:
> > You still need to deal with key revocation and a new key being needed,
> > anyway. Yearly changes will not make it more difficult, it will make sure
> > those codepaths are tested (and used at least once an year).
> I can understand that
Hi Kevin,
Great work! I am glad to see you got down with dia; I love that
tool. Here are some comments:
a. I am not sure what the "process realm" is.
b. Developers do not tag bugs, they sign packages. Is that what you
meant? Also, note that at the moment, most only sign source
packages and
A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[please, please repair your quoting mechanism. Done that for you in this mail].
> Henning Makholm wrote:
>
>> That is not a valid reason to pretend it is a native package. The
>> correct thing to do is to create a new .orig.tar.gz with the offending
>> file
martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.02.14.1851 +0100]:
> > We need help by competent developers who work on apt 0.6 with the goal
> > to get it supported properly and eventually enter sid and sarge.
>
> Thank you, Joey!
>
> For the record, I am too strung
A Mennucc wrote:
I object to this
a file mplayerorig.tar.gz is, as the name says, the original
distributed source
distributing my modified tar.gz disguising it as the upstream original
one would be cause of confusion
All of the kernel-source packages that need it have an orig.tar.gz
with
Hi Kev, list!
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 08:27, Kevin Mark wrote:
> after my initial work on a diagram, and the comments and the work of
> madduck, ÂI had some time to redo my diagram to produce a totally new
> concept. any comment appreciated.
Really nice and clean. Great to see such fundamenta
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 11:21:09AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Every machine with more than one interface has at least two hostnames:
> localhost on network 127 and something else on the external networks.
Nitpicking: every machine have exactly one hostname, that is contained
in /proc/sys/kernel/
Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A Mennucc)
Solution:
the DeCSS is deleted from the package proposed for Debian
(for this reason, I upload mplayer as a native package);
That is not a valid reason to pretend it is a native package. The
correct thing
MJ Ray wrote:
Andrea Mennucc wrote:
I have uploaded a new version of the 'mplayer' package for Debian,
namely version 1.0pre6-1
I have reviewed this package, but I've not tried building it.
Here are my first comments, split under your headings.
--- HISTORY and
Ken Bloom wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:46:38 +0100, A Mennucc wrote:
There have been two main problems keeping mplayer out of Debian: licenses
and copyrights.
Licenses:
the upstream code contains some code that is protected by (more or less)
actively enforced licenses: DeCSS code to decode encr
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