On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:55:54PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> Pfft, constitution. Like that'll ever hold up in court.
Maybe they could put it in the preamble?
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On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:53:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Also, to the best my knowledge the kernel doesn't contain any pictures
> > > of naked people either. I might be mistaken.
> >
> > It does have language which qualifies as obsc
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Also, to the best my knowledge the kernel doesn't contain any pictures
> > of naked people either. I might be mistaken.
>
> It does have language which qualifies as obscene.
Not in the United States, at least, where "obscene", as a matter of
constit
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:28:51PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Manoj>Well, remember to exclude the Linux kernel, then. It
> Manoj> is certainly not minor friendly.
>
> How many children look at the Linux kernel source cod
> "Tollef" == Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tollef> | Finally, I would like to commend Michelle Konzack for
Tollef> standing up on | this issue. Debian should never promote |
Tollef> degradation/abuse/exploitation, in any form, of females
Tollef> (or males or | bl
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also, to the best my knowledge the kernel doesn't contain any pictures
> of naked people either. I might be mistaken.
The word "pictures" is ambiguous; hot-babe contains no photographs.
> "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Manoj> Well, remember to exclude the Linux kernel, then. It
Manoj> is certainly not minor friendly.
How many children look at the Linux kernel source code? How many
children even know that it exists?
I might be naive, but
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 8. Obscenity and Harassment: GW computing systems and services may
> not be used in an obscene, harassing or otherwise improper manner.
> GW computing systems and services shall not be used in a manner that
> discriminates against another
Anibal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> For one, the Australian laws prohibite any web site in Australia to host
> pornographic material.
>
> See http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens1.html
Upon reading this carefully, it says that the Australian Government
may order the suppres
Anibal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> For one, the Australian laws prohibite any web site in Australia to host
> pornographic material.
>
> See http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens1.html
Do we have evidence--actual evidence--that this provision applies to
cartoons? Keep in m
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
It strikes me that some of the material in question would be in
violation of the Internet policies of most institutions or companies
that host our mirrors, as well as the applicable national laws.
Can you please provide some concrete evidence of thi
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:06:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>It strikes me that some of the material in question would be in
>>violation of the Internet policies of most institutions or companies
>>that host our mirrors, as well as the applicabl
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> > Either way, if you wish to claim there is a legal problem with a
> > given package, it is your responsibility to substantiate your
> > claim beyond raising FUD.
> I doubt it will be the last questionable package that is
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Either way, if you wish to claim there is a legal problem with a given package,
it is your responsibility to substantiate your claim beyond raising FUD.
I doubt it will be the last questionable package that is submitted, and
would like to handle the issue before the nex
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It strikes me that some of the material in question would be in
> violation of the Internet policies of most institutions or companies
> that host our mirrors, as well as the applicable national laws.
Can you please provide some concrete evidence of this
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1. An unincorporated association that has a contractual relationship
> with a public-benefit corporation.
> 2. A division of a public-benefit corporation.
Either way, if you wish to claim there is a legal problem with a given
package, it is your responsi
Andrew Suffield wrote:
The project does not exist as a legal entity.
It's more complicated than you think.
Is Debian a legal entity? The answer is unquestionably yes. The only
question is what kind of legal entity it is. The most likely two are:
1. An unincorporated association that has a contrac
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, I know. AFAICT, the only way for h-b to not be in Debian
> would be if Thibaut VARENE, who filed the original ITP, decided
> not to submit the package to Debian.
So if you would like it not to be in Debian, can you discuss with him
directly, and lea
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 14:34 +1100, Paul Hampson wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:38:30PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:16 -0500, Nick Sillik wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Plop wrote:
> > > > A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 19:24 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > There's a *fundamental* difference between "don't want hot-babe
> > in Debian" and "don't want hot-babe to *exist*".
>
> Currently, the procedures for the inclusion of packages in Debian
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What I am saying is that if I sit down and work out all of the
> implications of a questionable material policy, and nobody else does, I
> will be presenting research and worked-out logic and the folks who did
> not want to do the work will be hand-wav
What I am saying is that if I sit down and work out all of the
implications of a questionable material policy, and nobody else does, I
will be presenting research and worked-out logic and the folks who did
not want to do the work will be hand-waving. Who do you suppose will win
that argument?
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:40:27AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:32:00PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> > But the only field in UTF8 should be Maintainer, and that field should
> > have (IMHO) also a roman transliterate for the name, if you don't use a
> > lat
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> >If you believe there are legal issues, and you as a member of the
> >board of SPI are not willing to help resolve them, then you should
> >resign from the board.
> >
> Oh come on Thomas. I carry more than my share of the l
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If I do all of the work, I'll win arguments about the policy. That's
> OK with me, but some of you might want to get there first.
Who says? If you are saying that you'll get legal advice, and subvert
the process, so that we can't trust it, thanks for th
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:26:57AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:54:36AM +1100, Paul Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Isn't there a proposal around for
> > Description#en:
> > Description#ja:
> And you'd advocate to write the English text in latin1 and the japan
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
If you believe there are legal issues, and you as a member of the
board of SPI are not willing to help resolve them, then you should
resign from the board.
Oh come on Thomas. I carry more than my share of the load. Once in a
while I have the right to ask someone else
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
<>Of
course. But you haven't proposed a process, so why are you
complaining about us using the process we have?
If I do all of the work, I'll win arguments about the policy. That's OK
with me, but some of you might want to get there first.
Thanks
Bruce
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> >Maybe we should have such a process; maybe not. But regardless, the
> >current process allows each individual developer that judgment.
> All Debian process is a result of having a problem, and not having a
> process. The
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Maybe we should have such a process; maybe not. But regardless, the
current process allows each individual developer that judgment.
All Debian process is a result of having a problem, and not having a
process. The problem in this case is that a lot of people think th
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:38:30PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:16 -0500, Nick Sillik wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Plop wrote:
> > > A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a flower is a
> > > phallic representation. I could hurt some peo
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 04:11 +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> * Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [041206 01:15]:
> > * Package name: lapispuzzle.app
> > Version : 0.9.1
> > Upstream Author : Banlu Kemiyatorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapi
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There's a *fundamental* difference between "don't want hot-babe
> in Debian" and "don't want hot-babe to *exist*".
Currently, the procedures for the inclusion of packages in Debian
allow each developer to decide what to package, provided the licenses
perm
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Because I am one of the people with legal responsibility for the
> U.S. incarnation of the project. I acknowledge that there are many
> other jurisdictions where our people can get into trouble, note my
> comment regarding non-US not being adequate to sol
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes. Currently, every time the problem comes up we argue about our own
> individual definitions of what is and is not questionable because we
> have not come to any definition for the project, or any process to go
> along with the definition.
Of course.
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That is not the case for packages with questionable images and
> dialogue. I'm not volunteering, and neither are the people who gave me
> money. You or Manoj or other people who care about the issue should
> take a turn. And Debian should fund the necessa
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We are obligated to respect your right of free speech. We aren't
> obligated to provide the venue for your speech.
But Debian has no process for excluding packages on the grounds that
the packages are offensive.
Maybe we should have such a process; mayb
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 12:01 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:50:25PM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Be real, man. Steve Greenland said it perfectly: "Choosing not
> > to distribute a given package is NOT censorship. ... This is not
> > a subtle differ
* Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [041206 01:15]:
> * Package name: lapispuzzle.app
> Version : 0.9.1
> Upstream Author : Banlu Kemiyatorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapispuzzle/index.html
> * License : GNU GPL
> Description :
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 01:49 +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:33:54PM -0500, Josh Metzler wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 December 2004 08:25 pm, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 12:21:04PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > > On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:50:25PM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Be real, man. Steve Greenland said it perfectly: "Choosing not
> to distribute a given package is NOT censorship. ... This is not
> a subtle difference."
Allowing the package with the provision it doesn't contai
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 05:19:44PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> >Would country/region-specific jigdo files be a reasonable
> >solution?
> >
> >
> I don't think we've enumerated all of the data paths that can generate
> problems. I guess jigdo means the general category of
Where is Anthony Wong?
05 Feb 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED] posts bug #179927
which says that hotkeys can't build because it depends on libxosd
22 Feb 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED] resolves that bug by making hotkeys depend on the
new version of that library
What they perhaps didn't know was that libxosd2 has
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 15:07 +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
> > >
> >
> > Okay everybody, repeat after me:
> > shrug. At least in .au we have some legislation to protect minority
> > groups but we're not living in a totalitarian PC clampdown.
>
> Sounds irrelevant. There's a big difference between 'protect minority
> groups' (from what?) and 'compel everybody to behave in a manner
> approved of by mi
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:44:36PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
> > > > It has been proven endless times that once you start doing this, you
> > > > can't stop. For any package, there is going to be some minority group
> > > > that is offended by it.
> > >
> > > Sounds to me like your problem is not s
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:33:54PM -0500, Josh Metzler wrote:
> On Sunday 05 December 2004 08:25 pm, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 12:21:04PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 a
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 05:15:50PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> >Somewhere else in the thread I made the point that people have to respect
> >each other and that everyone using Debian is subject to local laws.
> >
> >
> That is two different issues:
> 1: Developers should respect each other.
W
> "Oh no, there's the possibility that somebody else might look at some
> low quality porn" versus "Other people are actively forcing their
> beliefs onto us". Isn't it obvious?
>
> ...
>
> That's what "censorship" means in every context, under any practical
> definition. It's impossible to deny
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:32:00PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> But the only field in UTF8 should be Maintainer, and that field should
> have (IMHO) also a roman transliterate for the name, if you don't use a
> latin charset (Greek, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese...)
The transliterated fiel
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:38:36AM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Warning: the 100 French Francs banknote displays the 'Liberty Leading
> the People' by Eugène Delacroix which picture the Liberty as a
> bare-breasted woman.
This passes the "soley designed to appeal to the prurient interest" te
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 04:23:25PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> I worked on the patent and copyright issues because Debian and indeed
> all of Free Software would be up the river if people did not work on it.
> I have arranged more than $120K of grants to work on this since leaving HP.
>
> That
Andrew Suffield wrote:
What is actually happening here is that one individual Debian developer is choosing to distribute a given package, and some other developers are trying to stop them.
No developer has attempted to stop another developer from distributing
that package. All that has been dis
On Sunday 05 December 2004 08:25 pm, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 12:21:04PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > > On 05-Dec-04, 04:55
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:52:59AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
>
> > I find the notion of introducing censorship in order to not 'hurt
> > their feelings' to be morally repugnant.
>
> Yes yes, I understand why you don't like it. What I wanted was an
> explanation of why objecting to this package wa
Steve Greenland wrote:
Okay everybody, repeat after me: Choosing not to distribute a given
package is NOT censorship. We are not telling people that they can't
install, use, and/or distribute the package, just that we don't care to
make it available as an official Debian package from our servers. T
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 12:21:04PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > T
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 03:55:27PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > [...] freedom of expression constitutes one of the essential
> > foundations of a democratic society and one of the basic conditions
> > for its progress and each individual's
Ron Johnson wrote:
Would country/region-specific jigdo files be a reasonable
solution?
I don't think we've enumerated all of the data paths that can generate
problems. I guess jigdo means the general category of CDs. To that I
would add the package list presented by the various apt frontends.
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
You're looking at this from a US-centric viewpoint, Bruce, and extending this
to the whole Project.
Because I am one of the people with legal responsibility for the U.S.
incarnation of the project. I acknowledge that there are many other
jurisdictions where our people ca
Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
> I do not deny that Latin-1 represents all the languages I can read, and
> that this fact may color my view. Nevertheless to me a source written
> in Chinese is effectively non-free. It might as well be a compiled
> binary blob.
So Emacs is effectively non-free, becaus
[Thaddeus H. Black]
> Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1.
Dissents are fine. (:
The reason to go with UTF-8 is for consistency. Tools that wish to
render text onto the screen ought to be able to depend on knowing the
encoding that text is in. See below for why I (and many
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Then maybe we could research whether this material is questionable at
all. It's not as if hot-babe contained pr0n pictures.
Yes. Currently, every time the problem comes up we argue about our own
individual definitions of what is and is not questionable because we
have n
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:16 -0500, Nick Sillik wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Plop wrote:
> > A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a flower is a
> > phallic representation. I could hurt some people's sensibility.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
> I was thinking that w
Le lundi 06 décembre 2004 à 09:26 +0900, Mike Hommey a écrit :
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:54:36AM +1100, Paul Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Isn't there a proposal around for
> > Description#en:
> > Description#ja:
>
> And you'd advocate to write the English text in latin1 and the j
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:54:36AM +1100, Paul Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Isn't there a proposal around for
> Description#en:
> Description#ja:
And you'd advocate to write the English text in latin1 and the japanese
text in euc-jp ?
Let's make it clear: 1 text file, 1 encoding.
Mike
Andrew,
I worked on the patent and copyright issues because Debian and indeed
all of Free Software would be up the river if people did not work on it.
I have arranged more than $120K of grants to work on this since leaving HP.
That is not the case for packages with questionable images and dialog
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:38 +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
[snip]
> Warning: the 100 French Francs banknote displays the 'Liberty Leading
> the People' by Eugène Delacroix which picture the Liberty as a
> bare-breasted woman.
> .
> Of course, if you can be shocked by money or nudity, don't
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: lapispuzzle.app
Version : 0.9.1
Upstream Author : Banlu Kemiyatorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapispuzzle/index.html
* License : GNU GPL
Description : almost a clone of Street Puzz
On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 13:42 +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:52:55PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > An earlier suggestion to show a lamb in various states of shear,
> > and then roasted at 100% was also good.
>
> As a vegeterian I have to strongly object on t
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: hot-banknote
Version : 0.2.1
Upstream Authors: David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cyprien Laplace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
graphics: Eugène Delacroix and others.
* URL : http://scnr.org/hot-
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: dak
Version : 1.0
Upstream Author : James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and a few others
* URL or Web page : http://cvs.debian.org/dak/?cvsroot=dak
* License : GPL
Description: Debian's archive maintenance scripts
This is a co
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:35:52PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> On 05/12/2004 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > you may run into big troubles if you tolerate a violent ideology - it's
> > > no longer about thoughts but more about brutality.
> >
> > Not if you're merely voicing those thoughts.
> sure,
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Sunday 05 December 2004 03:32 pm, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> > > Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1. Reason: I can
> > > recognize and distinguish Latin-1 characters, even when I do not always
> > > und
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 03:54:12PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> Hi
>
> I notice discussion on bug #241554 regarding a menu-method for .desktop
> files used by KDM/GDM for window manager sessions. Has any progress been
> made on this? If not I would like to volunteer for it. I definitely
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:03:13PM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 21:17, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:03:59PM -0700, Al Stone wrote:
> > > Hmmm. 'apt-get upgrade' this morning seems to have fixed it
> > > all -- so it would seem that the autobuilders go
* Fernanda Giroleti Weiden
| > I am not saying I don't believe you, I am just surprised that you seem
| > to feel objectified and pressured by a silly little cartoon.
|
| They are confusing somethings when compares sexual discrimination with
| any other kind of. Be a women is not a religion choi
* John Hasler
| William Ballard writes:
| > The Bible should be in Debian. But the Koran, the Torah, and the Vishnu
| > texts (name escapes me at the moment) should all be in there too.
|
| Debian is not Project Gutenberg. Debian is about _software_.
But the recent GR clarified that data is a
* Henning Makholm
| Scripsit Charles Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| > > Is there any benefit to using glastree over dirvish or pdumpfs?
|
| > The advantage of using glastree over pdumpfs is that it is implemented
| > in Perl rather than Ruby (this is in fact the reason that I encountered
| > it
* Eduard Bloch
| From my point of view, we could have released Sarge one year after Woody
| with boot-floppies. The only thing needed was a bit more man power from
| the porters. Instead, most of the "core team" and the BFs porters
| stopped to work on it. And without manpower (motivated people),
* Martin Olsson
| I have not seen this image thus I do not if I would find it offensive
| or not. Could someone please upload a .png of it somewhere and post
| the URL?
They are posted on http://temp.aurel32.net/hot-babe/
| Finally, I would like to commend Michelle Konzack for standing up on
|
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:55:27 +, Matthew Garrett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Debian is not a democratic society. It is not intended to be a source of
> all information known to man. It is supposed to be a project to produce
> a Free operating system. That means:
>
> a) Things that are not usefu
> I find the notion of introducing censorship in order to not 'hurt
> their feelings' to be morally repugnant.
Yes yes, I understand why you don't like it. What I wanted was an
explanation of why objecting to this package was probably _more_
offensive than proposing it.
(Bearing in mind that in
Re: Anders Karlsson in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> How do I best collect the information that the package maintainer would
> like?
Hi,
if you file a regular bug, the maintainer will contact you to provide
the information he needs. He is the one who knows the package best.
Besides that, there's strace,
On Sunday 05 December 2004 03:32 pm, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> > Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1. Reason: I can
> > recognize and distinguish Latin-1 characters, even when I do not always
> > understand the words they spell. Recognizing and distinguishing the
> > ch
Hi there,
I am soliciting a bit of assistance in how to best collect information
to report a bug most accurately. I have a general idea of what is needed
(reportbug does most of the legwork) but additional debug might be a
good thing.
Evolution 2.x has an annoying habit of getting threads/process
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:28:14PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> might want, and put it on non-us since it is illegal to distribute such
> things in the USA (and unlike the possibility of offending people's
> sensibilities, THIS is a real issue as things stand). While at it, we
They
A new version of libtiff, version 3.7.0 + CVS (more like an alpha of
3.7.1, expected soon) has been uploaded to experimental. i386 and
powerpc packages are available. (Many thanks to Giuseppe Sacco for
sponsoring this upload and building the packages.) This version is
expected to be binary comp
On 05/12/2004 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > you may run into big troubles if you tolerate a violent ideology - it's
> > no longer about thoughts but more about brutality.
>
> Not if you're merely voicing those thoughts.
sure, voicing those thoughts without practicing them is not the problem.
but (t
El dom, 05-12-2004 a las 20:16 +, Thaddeus H. Black escribiÃ:
> Peter Samuelson writes,
>
> > We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII
> > characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy
> > [1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004, Nick Sillik wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Plop wrote:
> > A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a flower is a
> > phallic representation. I could hurt some people's sensibility.
This is pointless.
Let's just have hot-babe with as much nudit
Op zo, 05-12-2004 te 17:15 +0100, schreef Jonas Meurer:
> On 05/12/2004 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > so you would even accept nazi propaganda material in debian, just
> > > because you dislike censorship?
> >
> > Yes, for the very same reason that many public libraries across the
> > world contain
Peter Samuelson writes,
> We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII
> characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy
> [1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a Good Thing,
> and UTF-8 seems to be the best solution for this sort of thin
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Or, putting it another way: failing to include this piece of code does
> Debian no demonstrable harm. Including it does.
After this several hundred posts thread, I still fail to see which
demonstrable harm such a silly and innocent package would do.
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:40:52PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> On that note, how likely is it to hit a UTF-8 character encoding that
> contains a '\n'? Any non UTF-8 aware parser would assume a new line
> has started and get parse errors.
Thats no problem. The only problem you have with U
Bart Schuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:40:52PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> On that note, how likely is it to hit a UTF-8 character encoding that
>> contains a '\n'? Any non UTF-8 aware parser would assume a new line
>> has started and get parse errors.
>
>
On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
> > >
> >
> > Okay everybody, repe
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: ganglia-webfrontend
Version : 2.5.7
Upstream Author : Matt Massie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.ganglia.info/
* License : BSD
Description : Web frontend for ganglia cluster monitoring toolkit
Gang
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Plop wrote:
> A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a flower is a
> phallic representation. I could hurt some people's sensibility.
>
> Paul
>
>
I was thinking that we could use pictures of the Eiffel Tower or
Washington Monument in vario
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> Cc: Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Such @bugs.debian.org addresses do not exist.
> PS: A bug is only closed when the bug reporter confirms it has been fixed.
As a point of information I must say that this
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