Re: summary of the Oldenberg d-i debcamp (and release plans)

2003-09-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): (debian-installer status summary in -devel and -boot. -i18n and -l10n-french added to CC) > Finally, and most important, we need a plan for how we will prepare d-i > for the first test cycle. So we tried to come up with one. This was > probably the hardest q

Re: Menu items consistency (was Re: Start using new SETTITLE cdebconf command)

2003-09-30 Thread Chris Tillman
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 08:38:16PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:30:49AM +0200, Martin Sjögren wrote: > > tis 2003-09-30 klockan 07.44 skrev Denis Barbier: > > > Some menu items contain a verb, other are noun forms. Should all items > > > be consistent in English? > > >

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:22:47AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 05:22:21PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > >> Well, if it isn't usable (remember, it's an udeb, so we're only talking in > >> the d-i context here) for hppa, hppa should not be in the list of > >> architectur

Re: Testing DI

2003-09-30 Thread Chris Tillman
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:42:47PM -0300, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > Hi people > > I am making a project here, based on Debian (sure!) and I was trying to > create a graphical installer based on PGI (the Progeny Graphical > Installer), but without much success. > Searching for another instal

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 05:22:21PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: >> Well, if it isn't usable (remember, it's an udeb, so we're only talking in >> the d-i context here) for hppa, hppa should not be in the list of >> architectures for that package, IMO. > OK. partitioner still needs to Depend on the part

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Richard Hirst
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:38:11AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 04:32:20PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > >> Make it depend on "partitioning-program", and make both fdisk-udeb and > >> parted-udeb "Provide[s]:" that. Should solve the problem. > > No, it won't. anna coul

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:57:19AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 04:52:51PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > >> If parted-udeb is unusable on a particular platform, I'd take it it was > >> never built/uploaded for that platform at all...? > > Nope, it's > > > > Architectu

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 04:52:51PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: >> If parted-udeb is unusable on a particular platform, I'd take it it was >> never built/uploaded for that platform at all...? > Nope, it's > > Architecture: any > > so it's built for hppa even though it doesn't fully work there. Well

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:38:11AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 04:32:20PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > >> Make it depend on "partitioning-program", and make both fdisk-udeb and > >> parted-udeb "Provide[s]:" that. Should solve the problem. > > No, it won't. anna coul

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:02:09PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 03:09:25PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:59:05PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote: > > > For hppa I need fdisk-udeb pulled in when d-i runs. parted cannot be > > > used to partition for h

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 04:32:20PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: >> Make it depend on "partitioning-program", and make both fdisk-udeb and >> parted-udeb "Provide[s]:" that. Should solve the problem. > No, it won't. anna could still install just parted-udeb since > that would satisfy the dependency. I

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:07:08AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 03:09:25PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > > I think the Depends field for partitioner should be > > > > Depends: cdebconf-udeb, fdisk-udeb, hw-detect-full > > > > on hppa and left as > > > > Depends: cd

Re: d-i and the archive

2003-09-30 Thread Sebastian Ley
Am Di, den 30.09.2003 schrieb Geert Stappers um 23:26: > > - Anna should be able to fetch from stable/testing/sid. That should be > > a question with priority low, with defaulting to the suite the image > > was build with. > > Should I read stable/testing/sid > as >stable or testing or si

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 03:09:25PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > I think the Depends field for partitioner should be > > Depends: cdebconf-udeb, fdisk-udeb, hw-detect-full > > on hppa and left as > > Depends: cdebconf-udeb, parted-udeb, hw-detect-full > > on other architectures. I'm not sure ho

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Richard Hirst
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 03:09:25PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:59:05PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote: > > For hppa I need fdisk-udeb pulled in when d-i runs. parted cannot be > > used to partition for hppa because we need a partition for palo of type > > 'f0', and parted d

Re: d-i and the archive

2003-09-30 Thread Sebastian Ley
Am Di, den 30.09.2003 schrieb Matt Kraai um 23:21: > * the d-i images in unstable will be rebuilt whenever a udeb is >uploaded and > > * the d-i images in testing will be rebuilt whenever a udeb >propagates to testing, Currently not of course but I'd like to see exactly that happen. So

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Richard Hirst
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:59:05PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote: > > Hi, > > For hppa I need fdisk-udeb pulled in when d-i runs. parted cannot be > > used to partition for hppa because we need a partition for palo of type > > 'f0',

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:59:05PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote: > For hppa I need fdisk-udeb pulled in when d-i runs. parted cannot be > used to partition for hppa because we need a partition for palo of type > 'f0', and parted doesn't let you specify partition types (didn't last > time I looked

Re: d-i and the archive

2003-09-30 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:49:24AM +0200, Sebastian Ley wrote: > Hi, > [ big snip ] > - Anna should be able to fetch from stable/testing/sid. That should be > a question with priority low, with defaulting to the suite the image > was build with. Should I read stable/testing/sid as stable

Re: d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:59:05PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote: > Hi, > For hppa I need fdisk-udeb pulled in when d-i runs. parted cannot be > used to partition for hppa because we need a partition for palo of type > 'f0', and parted doesn't let you specify partition types (didn't last > time I l

Re: d-i and the archive

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:08:14PM +0200, Sebastian Ley wrote: > Indeed. But it is a prerequisite to autobuilding images. I believe we > need a separate autobuilding process, which rebuilds images whenever a > udeb of the initial boot-image gets updated. To check that I understand, * the d-i ima

Re: d-i and the archive

2003-09-30 Thread Sebastian Ley
Am Di, den 30.09.2003 schrieb Joey Hess um 18:24: > What's the advantage of a -src package instead of a source package? Hm, good question... What will the buildds do with non .deb packages? I had in mind to to something similar like the debian-cd package... Perhaps you can elaborate a bit on this

base-config_1.73_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2003-09-30 Thread Debian Installer
Accepted: base-config_1.73.dsc to pool/main/b/base-config/base-config_1.73.dsc base-config_1.73.tar.gz to pool/main/b/base-config/base-config_1.73.tar.gz base-config_1.73_all.deb to pool/main/b/base-config/base-config_1.73_all.deb Announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Closing bugs: 208961 210464

Re: Bug#212101: kernel CONFIG_TR interferes with busybox CONFIG_TR

2003-09-30 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:38:26PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > Discussing with Jeff Bailey on IRC today indicates that a solution is > forthcoming on this bug: he estimates that in a week, there will be new > glibc packages in the archive that don't depend on the upstream kernel > headers for w

Re: kernel CONFIG_TR interferes with busybox CONFIG_TR

2003-09-30 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:38:26PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > Is this an acceptable > timeline to d-i folks for having headers that can be used for building > busybox on ia64 and alpha (estimate 3 weeks to testing) where are currently in a freeze sta

Re: kernel CONFIG_TR interferes with busybox CONFIG_TR

2003-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:27:47PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:38:26PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Is this an acceptable > > timeline to d-i folks for having headers that can be used for building > > busybox on ia64 and a

Re: kernel CONFIG_TR interferes with busybox CONFIG_TR

2003-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
Discussing with Jeff Bailey on IRC today indicates that a solution is forthcoming on this bug: he estimates that in a week, there will be new glibc packages in the archive that don't depend on the upstream kernel headers for what they expose to userspace. Is this an acceptable timeline to d-i folk

Bug#213482: cdebconf - allocate fd 3 always or use dynamicaly assigned fd

2003-09-30 Thread Bastian Blank
Package: cdebconf Version: N/A Severity: important cdebconf should either allocate always fd 3 before executing the client or the client should dynamicaly allocate a fd. unconditional overwriting of fd 3 interferes with syslog. bastian -- "Beauty is transitory." "Beauty survives

d-i, pulling in fdisk-udeb

2003-09-30 Thread Richard Hirst
Hi, For hppa I need fdisk-udeb pulled in when d-i runs. parted cannot be used to partition for hppa because we need a partition for palo of type 'f0', and parted doesn't let you specify partition types (didn't last time I looked anyway). At the moment I have to specifically request that install

Re: d-i minimum system requirements

2003-09-30 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
My paraphrased minimum requirements from various sources and some guesses is at: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianInstallerMinReqs - In response to ??? - Where Do you live ??? In Africa ??? Last Place in Congo ??? (Nice holliday here) Or do you install via Cell-Phone and 9600 BpS ??

Bug#213016: O cartao que voce enviou foi lido

2003-09-30 Thread uolcartoes
MICHELI, OSVALDO acaba de ler o cartão do UOL que você enviou. Para mandar outra mensagem, clique no seguinte endereço: http://cartoes.uol.com.br __ Acabe com aquelas janelinhas que pulam na sua tela. AntiPop-up UOL - É gráti

Bug#213481: Broken dependency on pcmcia-modules

2003-09-30 Thread Martin Sjögren
Package: pcmcia-udeb Version: 0.4 Severity: grave pcmcia-udeb: Depends: pcmcia-modules but it is not installable Since we've moved to 2.4.22 anyway, maybe the dependency should be on pcmcia-modules-2.4.22 Or, we need to convince Herbert Xu to make all different pcmcia-modules packages provide

Re: Menu items consistency (was Re: Start using new SETTITLE cdebconf command)

2003-09-30 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:30:49AM +0200, Martin Sjögren wrote: > tis 2003-09-30 klockan 07.44 skrev Denis Barbier: > > Some menu items contain a verb, other are noun forms. Should all items > > be consistent in English? > > I think they should be consistent, and I think they should be verb > phr

Bug#213015: Oi

2003-09-30 Thread ricardo . muniz
vc sabe se ele depositaram em dinheiro ou cheque ou cartao? e quando q foi? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: main-menu - discrepance in template names

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:52:09PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:22:50AM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 05:59:24PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > main-menu themself uses templates below debian-installer/ but expects > > > package titles in main-me

Problems with kernel: no sound, printer, cdwriter

2003-09-30 Thread A R
I posted this in debianhelp.org and didn't get much help. Hope to do better here. My audigy card is not seen by the kernel, when I try to compile hpijs it doesn't work. scsi emulation for my cd drives is not working (but is enabled in kernel) The problem seems to be with the modules. I am attachi

CVS account.

2003-09-30 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
Hello. I am not a Debian developer (tasks&skill phase now), but I've got r/w access to DDP and webwml modules in CVS. Now I'd like to have access to debian-installer module. Is it possible? I have some Polish translations of files listed at http://gluck.debian.org/~barbier/debian-installer/l10

Re: d-i - isinstallable script is superseeded by subarchitecture specification

2003-09-30 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 12:32:57PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Bastian Blank wrote: > > the isinstallable script is now superseeded by the Subarchitecture > > specification. > Not completly, the scope of that script is more general than just > subsrchitectures. yeah, but no other usage is currently

Sitio WEB SIN CARGO

2003-09-30 Thread MBProfesionales
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Re: main-menu - discrepance in template names

2003-09-30 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:22:50AM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 05:59:24PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > main-menu themself uses templates below debian-installer/ but expects > > package titles in main-menu/ > How about using debian-installer/-title? some time ago i propose

userdevfs_0.02_m68k.changes is NEW

2003-09-30 Thread Debian Installer
(new) userdevfs_0.02.dsc standard debian-installer (new) userdevfs_0.02.tar.gz standard debian-installer (new) userdevfs_0.02_all.udeb standard debian-installer Emulate DevFS This package emulates the parts of DevFS required by debian-installer in userspace, so that architectures that don't have

Processing of userdevfs_0.02_m68k.changes

2003-09-30 Thread Archive Administrator
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Testing DI

2003-09-30 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi people I am making a project here, based on Debian (sure!) and I was trying to create a graphical installer based on PGI (the Progeny Graphical Installer), but without much success. Searching for another installer for Debian, I've found Debian Installer. I know that DI isn´t 100% complete, bu

Re: d-i - isinstallable script is superseeded by subarchitecture specification

2003-09-30 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Blank wrote: > hi folks > > the isinstallable script is now superseeded by the Subarchitecture > specification. Not completly, the scope of that script is more general than just subsrchitectures. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: d-i and the archive

2003-09-30 Thread Joey Hess
Sebastian Ley wrote: > on debcamp we had a discussion about how we are ensuring proper > testing versions of debian-installer. The main problem was the build > process of the images. If we had a package in the archive that builds > the installer, which files should it create? > > I propose the fol

Re: main-menu - discrepance in template names

2003-09-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 05:59:24PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > main-menu themself uses templates below debian-installer/ but expects > package titles in main-menu/ How about using debian-installer/-title? -- Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

d-i - isinstallable script is superseeded by subarchitecture specification

2003-09-30 Thread Bastian Blank
hi folks the isinstallable script is now superseeded by the Subarchitecture specification. bastian -- A father doesn't destroy his children. -- Lt. Carolyn Palamas, "Who Mourns for Adonais?", stardate 3468.1. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

summary of the Oldenberg d-i debcamp (and release plans)

2003-09-30 Thread Joey Hess
Between last Thursday and Sunday more than 10 debian-installer developers participated in the d-i debcamp held during the Oldenburg developer's meeting. It was quite a successful event, and we appreciated the hospitality of the Oldenburg developers, and had a good time as well as doing a lot of wor

main-menu - discrepance in template names

2003-09-30 Thread Bastian Blank
hi folks main-menu themself uses templates below debian-installer/ but expects package titles in main-menu/ bastian -- The face of war has never changed. Surely it is more logical to heal than to kill. -- Surak of Vulcan, "The Savage Curtain", stardate 5906.5 signature.asc De

Re: d-i - subarchitecture stuff

2003-09-30 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:33:44AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > anna will use a new control field in the next version. it is called > subarchitecture and will restrict the selection of this package only if > it runs on this subarch. the Subarchitecture field includes several whitespace seperated

Bug#212258: marked as done (difficult to figure out disk name for partitioning with cfdisk)

2003-09-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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libdebian-installer - proposal: usage of ERROR log level

2003-09-30 Thread Bastian Blank
hi folks the error log level in libdebian-installer is currently marked as critical, i.e. is always exits. my proposal is, that it should display a internal error message via debconf if available. this should only be used for realy rare conditions which may occur but only if things mess up really

Processed: update de translation

2003-09-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: d-i and the archive

2003-09-30 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
sorry, I didn't want to send this only to sebastian... Sebastian Ley wrote: Please comment/extend this proposal. If seconded I'd like to start on it as soon as posible. sounds cool to me, but more like a mid- to long-term solution. I think we should now focus on getting out a beta release (probab

d-i and the archive

2003-09-30 Thread Sebastian Ley
Hi, on debcamp we had a discussion about how we are ensuring proper testing versions of debian-installer. The main problem was the build process of the images. If we had a package in the archive that builds the installer, which files should it create? I propose the following: Make a package buil

Re: Menu items consistency (was Re: Start using new SETTITLE cdebconf command)

2003-09-30 Thread Martin Sjögren
tis 2003-09-30 klockan 07.44 skrev Denis Barbier: > Some menu items contain a verb, other are noun forms. Should all items > be consistent in English? I think they should be consistent, and I think they should be verb phrases, just like button texts in a GUI should be. Please file bugs (preferrab

Bug#213314: partconf: invokes mkreiserfs interactively

2003-09-30 Thread Sebastian Ley
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:40:54AM +0200, Martin Sjögren wrote: > These templates can even be supplied by the mkfs udebs, they don't have > to ship with partconf (they SHOULDN'T ship with partconf!) > > Does this sound sane? Yes, this will play nice with modularity! Sebastian -- PGP-Key: http

Bug#213333: cdebconf - lists should support selection via id

2003-09-30 Thread Martin Sjögren
mån 2003-09-29 klockan 12.59 skrev Bastian Blank: > Package: cdebconf > Version: N/A > > i think cdebconf should support selection of a list value via an id. > this makes it much easier to set a default value for a generated list or > read the value for such lists. also it makes the handling of st

Bug#213314: partconf: invokes mkreiserfs interactively

2003-09-30 Thread Martin Sjögren
mån 2003-09-29 klockan 18.05 skrev Sebastian Ley: > Package: partconf > Severity: normal > Tags: d-i > > The way partconf mkreiserfs will cause mkreiserfs to ask questions, > which will freeze partconf. Yes, I've been thinking about this. I think I will introduce templates partconf/mkfs/ for thi