Dear all,
it has been suggested that I apply for a slot for a general BoF about
Git-based tools, their use cases, possible paths from there and just a
general Git-together (scnr).
Please note that this BoF is not Debian-specific in nature; I don't
know if or how that affects your decision. If acc
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> a.) tell the talks+video team before the talk that you dont want to be videoed
> (or only audioed), thats totally fine. (But we really should have this in the
> conference management system.)
Open Source Days in Copenhagen made me sign a wa
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> I don't think we want anything so elaborate as a signed waiver; and I also
> think we can and should assume that by default people giving talks are ok
> being videotaped and need to opt out, otherwise people will overlook the box
> and we'l
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Michael Shuler wrote:
> While I think the ideas expressed so far are good for completeness, I
> don't recall a recent DebConf that did not have a 3rd, 4th, or more
> additional talk or BOF rooms that are not streamed/recorded. These
> rooms can certainly be utili
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor
wrote:
> as someone who has been on the talks team in the past (i was basically
> AWOL this year) it would help us in talk scheduling to have a tristate
> option in penta for talk submitters:
This is starting to feel like bikeshedding, but her
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> It is arguably not overly original, but fits quite well the minimalistic
> design guidelines we have followed during DebConf13. Suggestions and
> improvements welcome.
I agree that there should be a reference to the other sponsors,
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Patty Langasek wrote:
> I feel that the bags are a benefit to the conference, and bags are widely
> given at "professional" conferences across many different industries.
Correct. And for good reason also; it's useful for attendees and it
allows a decoupling of t
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Not cc:ing the bid teams intentionally as I expect them to read this list and
> reply...
*raises hand for German team*
I have to admit that I am not familiar with the decision process of
DebConf; I have been trying (admittedly with low-is
Dear all,
Interest in the dudle has not been very high but the dates in it are
approaching.
Are any more votes forthcoming?
Either way, how do we break the tie between the various options?
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What about Norway?
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:50 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> Martin is involved in a bid so he'd prefer if a neutral person did…
Holger, will you decide, then?
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On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> I can. when should I?
As I am involved with the bid, I am not sure I can say that.
Objectively, I note that one option has six yes, but one no from
Moray, so that may not be ideal...
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Dear all,
there seems to be very strong consensus to move from svn to Git. If
you object, voice your concerns _now_.
I hear gaudenz has been investigating this in the past; hearing from
him would be appreciated.
Assuming there are no major blockers, expect a migration within a few
weeks at max
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:22 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Wouter Verhelst [2014-02-20 10:02 +0100]:
>> None that I am aware of (other than "don't run around naked", but hey
>> ;-)
>
> Gosh, with such ridiculous standards, how should we ever attain the
> quality of DC5 and DC6?
Legal
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> I understand that the reason for the two German bids is that this would
> allow the team to negotiate better conditions from the two options if
> they win the bid. While that is true, there is no reason why these
> negotiations could not h
Agreed. Mixing dc14 and dc15 is bound to lead to confusion.
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In what magazine(s) and language(s)?
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
> My point kinda was that I thought the BBQ was the better Conference
> Dinner. I wouldn't mind if we just had another one with some additional
> social events one evening and scrap the traditional conference dinner.
I agree with Ana that t
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:23 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> To add to that: I've heard in the past that "DebConf is not the
> place where everyone is keen to go into nature or engage in physical
> activity". Let's not think like that. Obviously, not everyone will
> join, and we do have people with
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Patty Langasek wrote:
That's actually kind of what I'm planning. Only, the picnic is accompanied
> by waterfalls.
>
I assume you are referring to Multnomah Falls[1].
Out of interest: How near is this to other hiking destinations/activities
and a large-ish open s
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Not immediately adjacent, no. The rough plan is to take buses between
> various stops in the gorge, with lunch outdoors as a group at a nearby
> state
> park. I'll let Patty speak to the details.
>
That sounds like a cheap way to fill a
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Moray Allan wrote:
> Again, I can believe this is the best version for Germany, but in many
> places you could just create a limited-liability company rather than seek
> insurance.
>
For completeness' sake, registering a Limited in Germany (non-profit or
for-pro
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> I even think using your by-law is a good starting point, and only
> adjust what is necessary to adjust.
>
>From what I understand, madduck is working closely with German lawyers
familiar with the matter. Without having had the time to do a
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> However, starting the fiscal year not on 1 January is exceptional,
> and starting it not on the first of a month even more so. While it's
> not impossible, Andi's right in saying that it'll mean additional
> steps and additional dealing wit
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Pablo M. Drake
wrote:
> One cuestion Works for peoples who lives in Cuba??
>
It's best to ask your local embassy, I'd say:
http://havana.usint.gov/visa_appointment_information.html
http://spanish.havana.usint.gov/visa_appointment_information.html
Richard
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reached by now.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:21 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> If this is what we want… sounds fine to me, even though it means
> that a meeting of 4 people can cause change of bylaws, if 3 people
> agree. How
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:44 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> Realistically speaking, we're hardly ever going to meet in person,
> but online, because we are not all based in the same city. It might
> make sense to make in-person meetings require a quorum and let IRC
> meetings always be quorate.
>
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:05 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> > That would be the legal blah with an internal understanding that
> > this refers to Secretary, a TO, or a public mailing list.
>
> You would have to define a procedure by which such a person is
> elected.
>
How about we designate a pro
Valid points; agreed.
Do you need any final review or are we good to send the doc off?
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On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:38 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Richard Hartmann [2014-04-24
> 09:06 +0200]:
> > Do you need any final review or are we good to send the doc off?
>
> I think it's ready to go. I am just trying to remember what we
> decided on the
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Richard Hartmann <
richih.mailingl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Debian Deutschland e.V. makes potential re-use easier, else it's just a
> name of no importance. Toss a coin?
>
After the question simmered some more at the back of my head, I thi
I don't see any of this as an issue, but I have no problem with any of
those names.
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On Apr 25, 2014 12:56 AM, "Michael Banck" wrote:
> However, if there are serious reservation about "Debian Deutschland" and
> using the Debian trademark from the rest of the team (as Brian brought
> up), it might make sense to go with "Debconf Deutschland", but I don't
> mind either way.
Just fo
Dear Lucas,
there have been discussions about the status of the DebConf 15 legal
entity and its status towards Debian.
The two points of contention are
a) handling Debian's money
b) potentially carrying "Debian" in the name of said legal entity, as
in "Debian Deutschland e.V." instead of "DebCon
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Adding auditors to Cc, and quoting in full.
Thanks.
> Sure. But now that we have a process for establishing TOs, I'd rather
> use it.
In this case, I am glad we raised the point and have clarification.
This obviously increases priority
Martin Krafft
Maximiliano Curia
Michael Banck
Penny Krafft
Rene Engelhard
Richard Hartmann
Sandro Knaus
Unconfirmed attendance:
Constanze Stohn
Philipp Hug
Sebastian Harl
2. The organization should remain loyal to Debian
See 1.
Going against Debian's best interest now or in the future woul
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> I'm running some throw-away non-profit organisations, and have not
> experienced problems.
Have the tax authorities been made aware of this in advance? For how
long are those organisations running?
> Debconf has a different tax situation
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:50 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debconf-data/dc15.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd4fe0c0de7d39ad5ed25518b1e57200c75d4e4c
> is an attempt to achieve this, which I'll need to run by the lawyer.
> Comments welcome ASAP, please.
The invitation part
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Right, this is my point. Not having the organization named "Debian" does
> not prevent the sponsorship team from saying "Debian" during the sponsorship
> process; and no one has ever reported that there was a problem where a
> sponsor has
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> I've previously given my opinion on the name, that there should be a very
> high bar for naming any organization "Debian". Even if the board was
> composed entirely of Debian developers, there's a risk that using such a
> name could weake
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Philipp Hug wrote:
> If we had DebConf15 chairs, they could be involved from the beginning
> without having to bother about DC14 at the same time
This would make sense, imo. This is something the chairs could decide
by themselves.
I also note that for whatever
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> So I'm not against considering the idea of keep the DC15 TO after DC15,
> but this will clearly have to be weighted against the disadvantages of
> this option.
We decided to go with a single-use eV for DebConf15, because:
* of the valid
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> I personally think that this could be enough, but would welcome more
> opinions on that.
Same and same.
We would appreciate more feedback on this (and on when silence will be
interpreted as implicit consensus).
Richard
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Confirmation beforehand would be nice if they deem to answer...
Can we change the recipient later? If a Debian eV comes to life the money
should go there
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If you really worry we can found two eVs, but that will mean name
discussions, bikeshedding, force us to keep up one eV, and we have a
similar problem for the later eV.
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On May 2, 2014 2:49 PM, "Enrico Zini" wrote:
> [Good stuff]
I agree. To me, the CoC is a safety net and reference which exists, but
should not be invoked just so. It's there if you really need it but DebConf
as a social entity should be able to self-regulate in most if not all cases.
Richard,
W
Dear all,
as announced some time ago, we will incorporate DebConfDeutschland
e.V. tomorrow.
All founding members will be DDs with the full list being sent as a
reply to this email after the fact.
Given that:
* We will not be using the name "Debian"
* We are not planning to run for more than ne
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> As you already described how you met the TO criteria in
> ,
> I think that we can safely say that the minimum two weeks discussion
> period started on 2014-04-26 (and thus ends on 2014-05-11).
Works for me. Just to make sure: This means tha
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> The last step was never used so far AFAIK.
> But it could probably be implemented as a d-d-a email providing the updated
> list of TOs, and a page on the Debian website listing TOs and referencing
> the d-d-a email.
> (Similar to delegation
Hi Valessio,
I can't answer for DC14, but DC15 already has some designers working
on a logo and we would love to have more help if you have the time.
Thanks,
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l keep the member count to the functional
minimum; changes in intent away from Debian's best interest are thus
virtually impossible.
The founding members are:
* Michael Banck
* Rene Engelhard
* Richard Hartmann (chairman of the board)
* Philipp Hug
* Jörg Jaspert (vice chairman)
* Martin Kr
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> Fri, August 22: Arrival day. Dorm check in available after noon.
> Minimal hacklabs. No talks.
> Sat, August 23: First day of conference. Opening immediately after
> brunch
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> AJ's point, which I think is valid, is that if you get into deep hack
> mode you don't really want to be interrupted by talks. There's some
> leeway for the talks team to decide what exactly would count as a BOF
> but I think that having
Dear all,
is there anything more I can (or need to) do?
Thanks,
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Dear all,
Can we do concordet instead of single-vote? There are online tools
like [1] so there's no need for devotee or similarly complex
workflows.
Also, I know that this is too late, but I threw another hat in the
round. It's a mix of 4 and 5; I filed it under 10 but only added it to
the overv
Dear all,
Can we do concordet instead of single-vote? There are online tools
like [1] so there's no need for devotee or similarly complex
workflows.
Also, I know that this is too late, but I threw another hat in the
round. It's a mix of 4 and 5; I filed it under 10 but only added it to
the overv
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Penny Leach wrote:
> As to your logo, not sure what we should do about that. What did you
> intend by adding it to the overview?
I consider 4 & 5 the best, but wasn't truly happy with either of them.
I realized _why_ and mixed the good parts.
As I was after the
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Penny Leach wrote:
> Since 10 (& now 11) are both remixes rather than new logos I'm happy to
> add them to the voting table if people think it's reasonable.
I took the opportunity to open a new vote with Concordet and the new options.
Penny: Feel free to delete
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 09:58:29PM +0200, Martín Ferrari wrote:
>> So, I think these numbers are very misleading, and should not be used at
>> this point for planning. At least until the reconfirmation period.
>
> So we shouldn't plan w
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> Do we need to ask the presenter permission to email them things like "please
> review your title slide: http://...png"; and later "your video is here:
> http://";
I know what you are getting at and with half a video hat on I
_strongly_ su
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hartmann
wrote:
> I took the opportunity to open a new vote with Concordet and the new options.
If you (re)vote, please make a full list as my online tool can't use
partial ones.
Thanks,
Richard
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Peope who still need to re-vote as of right now are:
algernon
Debcool
h01ger
hvhaugwitz
Miriam
sim6
Sledge
vorlon
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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Richard Hartmann
wrote:
> Peope who still need to re-vote as of right now are:
I poked the remaining ones via mail.
As of right now, we have a tie, so we need more votes :)
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Break the tie by voting?
Most people re-voted instantly anyway, so...
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Dear all,
voting has closed and K has won.
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Richard Hartmann
wrote:
> voting has closed and K has won.
After some more thought, this is a valid point and it should have been
raised earlier.
We can do a logo with rounded-off borders&edges or something, but that
will still stand out in print, etc.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> If I make it to Portland I can certainly come a few days earlier and
> help with network setup if needed. I'm not sure yet if I can make it at
> all though.
Same. For reference, I did most of the actual AP deployment for DC13.
I have ten l
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
>> All devices were flashed with OpenWRT. This is quite practical for two
>> reasons (beside the fact that its Free Software ;-)):
>> - It's easier to deploy identical configuraitons as you can copy around
>> configuration files and don't have to
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> Even if a venue has gig in the walls, I have given up on it being reliable.
> It is too easy for it to have problems during a talk, and that drops the
> quality of the video and causes the video team to freak out. solution to
> make sure that
Can they route prefixes?
Getting temporary PI would be an option, but I don't know how to get those
with ARIN.
Can they drop an essid on a distinct vlan from their Wi-Fi infra? Could
we/they add APs to their controller if we need more coverage?
Same vlan could be used for wired.
Richard
Sent b
As an aside, can you let freenode and oftc know what addresses will be used
so we can i-line?
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Just in case we ever need this:
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Voting was open until 23:59 GMT, Sunday June 1st 2014.
K has won
Original votes:
RichiH: J, E, D, G, A, H, K, L, B, C, F, I
jandd: K, J, E, D, F, G, H, B, L, C, A, I
bwh:L, K, H, D, F, A, C, G, E
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> Yeah, I want specifics on their VLAN -- I doubt they use a massive DHCP
> network for a /16. :)
With my FOSDEM hat on: doing this for a /18 is doable ;)
Richard
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> BTW, do we want people to be able to upload their slides to summit?
Yes. And other supporting material.
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On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> RIPE offers IP space for EU events like CCC. Ask them if they know about US?
RIPE NCC would surely have an answer by 2018, yes ;)
Sadly, ARIN is acting[1] in the way I have heard stories of great
affection and well-meaning about from op
Dear all,
we already talked about this within the DC15 team, but just to make
sure that we are all on the same page:
I think we should spam DPN, the -announces, reddit, friendly press
publications, etc once we have:
* non-profit status
* basic sponsorship info
* website with reasonably appealin
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Brian Gupta wrote:
> I'm asking because if the two are largely in alignment, perhaps having
> the attendees in compliance with the DebConf CoC, will be fine for PL?
Turning this around, can the Debian & DebConf CoC be submitted to them
and, if they are OK with it,
My only real comment would be that I can not yet put in all
information before signing, but they are probably aware of that, so..
;)
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
> I would say that there are lots of policies and rules that Debconf
> attendees need to comply with to travel to the U.S. that they may not
> agree with. I'm certain their policy is just along the lines of
> covering them for any possible l
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:35 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> On the upside of things, we'll be allowed to bring personal firearms
> to DebConf14! \o/
Pity the default init system debate is over already...
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Thanks!
Do attendees need to confirm to theirs or is ours enough for them?
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(I am picking up some points from elsewhere in this thread, as well)
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> In the process, I've taken a pass over the rest of the budget, and have bad
> news: we have way more money in the DebConf14 accounts than we're actually
> going to use.
As someone who is relatively new to DebConf, not Debian, but who jumped
into the deep end:
* There is obviously frustration in a lot of places, this is not good.
* As someone who helped spearhead the successful DC15 bid, I found the
process opaque, inefficient, ill-designed, and... frustrating
* T
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote:
> If you're against the chairs talking with people grouping them by debconf
> year or global team, suggest something else. I understond that the goal
> here is taking the time to hear what everybody has to say about the
> problems and poss
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:19 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Steve Langasek [2014-08-19 04:33 +0200]:
>> I think we should make a point of sending this off with the DC15
>> crew at the end of the conference. :)
>
> This is a good idea, saves us logistic hassle and cost later, and
> I hav
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:35 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> and in time to hand out at FrOSCon
Just so everyone knows: FrOSCon will take place next weekend, August
23rd and 24th.
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This sounds very good; thank you for sharing your views and driving this.
For people not on site: is there a way to follow what discussions with
whom are taking place when?
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Hi Gunnar,
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> I do not believe the year was a stalemate. Things were done quite
> differently than last year, and next year they will be done
> differently, because the teams have very different compositions and
> personalities. Many of us also
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> As Didier wrote, I think that
> clearer statements of the problems, with the POV of various parties,
> would help a lot. I'm thinking of statements such as:
> "As a chair during the DCn organization, I felt that ..."
> "As a member of the lo
I like the idea of persistent(-ish?) sub-teams. Even though there seems to
be unrest atm, I consider the video team a success story.
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sense.
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:34 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> Second, we are going to discuss an idea by marga coming out of her
> experience with DC8, wherein one team member's job is to poke the
> others regularly. This person's contribution to DebConf is to keep
> on top of things that need to get
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> PS: and I'm not so proud of DC15 team, I see only few people active. No
> local people taking experiences in visa, registration, etc, which really
> help planing communication to attendees.
Would you be willing to create bullet points
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Brian Gupta wrote:
> I've observed it over the years, and feel that if we can summon the
> strength to stay engaged, we can use the extra time, lessons are still
> fresh from DebConf.
>
> We're always scrambling for time later in the cycle, so regaining this
> tim
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Judit Foglszinger wrote:
> Taking a penalty card for redundancy and wrongly suspecting the spam filter.
Failure to take mental sanity of people not on site into account by
mindlessly referring to the playing of the game of our dear leader.
Richard
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Also, helicopter.
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Of you hand over stuff, let the winner know beforehand; else they may be
gone, already.
Richard
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On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:28 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> while DC14 is still hot, I would like to gather ideas on how we can
> improve, specifically wrt diversity.
To avoid cross-posting, I think "diversity" is both a very worthwhile
concept and an overused buzzword. As a result, I would argue
Why not just allow them to set themselves to be visible to
Everyone, attendees, speaker, no one (just a number for statistics)
Richard
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