Re: [Debconf-team] sponsored tracks?

Hi Daniel, On Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Has there ever been any variation to the existing sponsorship model, for > example, having sponsors for particular tracks? given this years sponsors levels, how much money would you think should this be worth? And from your example

Re: [Debconf-team] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

Hi, On Freitag, 27. Juli 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > It is not a reason to not have a kids camp: it just means we need to be > sure everyone (not just the parents) is willing to have this new > dimension added to the event. No. Liability reasons but also "just" doing a "kids camp" right are two

Re: [Debconf-team] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

Hi Daniel, On Samstag, 28. Juli 2012, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > If we want to build "The Universal OS", and if we want to be truly > welcoming (as the recent GR says), collaborating with our non-childfree > peers is a worthy step to take. [...] > We don't handle these existing constraints perfe

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] venue issues (renamed)

On Samstag, 28. Juli 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > As an example: > > - someone offers 0.5 day training seminar on a specific technology > - people ask their employer to pay the training fee for them to attend > - employer can pay the fee through the DebConf web site somehow > - the trainer keeps s

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels

t resume was given by Holger: > > On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:48:17 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Hm, I really like the way we have now: bronce=website, silver=tshirt > > (short for cloth), gold=video, platinum=premium partner. It's easy to > > remember and thus to expl

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf sprint in Fribourg, Wed 8. Aug, 17h30 local time

Hi, On Montag, 30. Juli 2012, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > What:DebConf sprint nice! > When:Wed. 8. Aug 2012, from 17h30 local time [...] > P.S.2. This event could be repeated rather easily, in this or other places. please do and please choose a weekend next time and I might join you ;

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels

On Montag, 30. Juli 2012, Luca Capello wrote: > > if you didnt mean to discuss the legal entity with this, then I dont > > understand your question... > Norman got it, see the difference between 'structure' and 'association' > (lists.debconf.org is down, no direct link): > Message-Id: 20120726061

Re: [Debconf-team] Meeting with Le Camp

Hi, On Dienstag, 7. August 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > I sent a couple of weeks (to debconf13-localteam) ago a list of point > that need to be discussed with Mr. Pianaro (the "boss" of Le Camp). > The meeting will therefore be focused on answering the questions on the > list and therefore try to r

Re: [Debconf-team] Meeting with Le Camp

Hi, On Dienstag, 7. August 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > Because of the mailing list being down I am writing you personally. thanks, I've cc:ed the list now, so it will be there once its back. > The meeting at Le Camp will be Tuesday 14 at 14:00. do you have an agenda for the meeting? cheers,

Re: [Debconf-team] Meeting with Le Camp

Hi, On Mittwoch, 8. August 2012, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > Does this mean there is a hard limit of 350 people to be allowed to come > > to debconf? > > If yes, this is a no-go for this location. > Well, we *knew* about that when voting for this location. well, I thought it was a camp place wh

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf12-localteam] [Debconf13-localteam] Next IRC DebConf meeting - Poll for dates/times

Hi Luca, On Freitag, 10. August 2012, Luca Capello wrote: > On Tuesday 14 at 14:00 there will be the meeting at 'Le Camp': > > > > > > While it should be technically possible to have the IRC meeting even at > 19:00+0

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 Venue constraints

Hi, On Montag, 13. August 2012, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > FWIW I don't think at this stage we can roll back six months in time > and undo a vote. right... - __if__ we came to the conclusion now, that dc13.ch is undoable, we would need to come up with a new plan... > So, lets focus on a DebConf in Sw

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 Venue constraints

Hi Gaudenz, thanks for this mail. A few comments below... On Montag, 13. August 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > ** Goals for tonight's meeting ** > > Define realistic criteria for a DebConf venue in Switzerland: > - What is the minimal amount of people we have to be able to accomodate > in clo

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 Venue constraints

On Montag, 13. August 2012, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > As much as camping might have been claimed possible (it has, over IRC), > assuming that it might have been free is an extrapolation of yours. well, definitly cheaper. ___ Debconf-team mailing list

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 Venue constraints

On Montag, 13. August 2012, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > well, definitly cheaper. > > Not that true. The nearby "camping" has nights for 14.- CHF a night; the > cheapest rooms at LeCamp are 13.50.- CHF. and On Montag, 13. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > These are cultural differences, de

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels

Hi, On Mittwoch, 8. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Also, according to a phone call (referred to from the 20110831 Meeting > > minutes[0]) I had held with Lausanne Tourisme, if we had gone to > > Lausanne, the city would have given between 25k and 40k given a good > > dossier. > Can we poten

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels

Hi, On Mittwoch, 8. August 2012, Luca Capello wrote: > * SUPPORTER - up to CHF 2'000 [DC10 <2'000, DC11 >1'200, DC12 NONE] > * BRONZE - starting from CHF 2'000 [DC10 2'000, DC11 2'400, DC12 2'000] > * SILVER - starting from CHF 5'000 [DC10 10'000, DC11 6'000, DC12 5'000] > * GOLD - starting from C

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

Hi, (also catching up on old mails...) On Dienstag, 31. Juli 2012, Henning Sprang wrote: > DebConf is - from my feeling and understanding of it - *not* a > conference in the sense of a professional conference of any product > developed and/or supported or driven by a company. It is a meeting for

Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

Hi, On Dienstag, 14. August 2012, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > I have not yet done a even test install of it (I'm creating a VM for > it right now). I expect to have it ready soon, and I'll start looking > at what we have, what we need. I expect not to be the only one doing > this. Holger has repeatedly s

Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

Hi Eric, On Dienstag, 14. August 2012, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > In any case, I haven't seen anything since dc12 from anyone else here > about trying out any of the other options. dc12 ended a month ago, today. So I'm not surprised no new work has been started yet. > So, fwiw I'm incline

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

On Dienstag, 14. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > But on the issue of whether we have no policy: I just think that is a > bad idea. It is better to tell people the worst case scenario before > they pay any money, then if something goes wrong, they will not feel angry. we don't have a cancelati

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

Hi, On Dienstag, 14. August 2012, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > Not really. Until we start giving something to the customers, we are > obliged to return money to the customer, if he ask so. You should also > remember that in DebConf we are the "strong part", so any doubts on > contracts are in favor

Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

Hi Mario, thanks for joining the conversation! On Mittwoch, 15. August 2012, Mario Manno wrote: > I'm maintaining the "katastrophie" frab fork. We used that one for the > SIGINT12 conference and I'm currently working towards a CCC-wide frab > installation. cool. Do you think/know whether this ye

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

Hi, On Mittwoch, 15. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > As mentioned before, I believe publishing a statement like this will > help getting people to pay earlier. It may also give sponsors more > confidence in the event. I have not seen any indication that sponsors are not confident in the even

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Updates from Le Camp meeting

Hi Christian, On Mittwoch, 15. August 2012, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Just as a confirmation, by the way, for the local team: I will 100% > come with my own car. That makes transportation of all video gear from > IRILL in Paris a non problem and also bring to Vaumarcus a 7-seater > Citroen Evasio

[Debconf-team] taking a break

Hi, I'm starting to get sick (fever) and I realized I need my post DebConf break. See you again in October or so. cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-tea

Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

Hi Mario, On Mittwoch, 15. August 2012, Mario Manno wrote: > > cool. Do you think/know whether this years cccongress will already use > > frab? > Well I certainly hope so, but the call for participation already > started. It probably depends on how fast we get frab running and how > well the penta

Re: [Debconf-team] Alternative ways of raising money

On Montag, 20. August 2012, Karolina Kalic wrote: > Maybe we could use indiegogo.com. They have option for taking as much > money as you collect. It is for bigger percent of fee, 9%, but it's a > good option. 9% is ridiculous, even 3% is quite a lot IMHO. __

Re: [Debconf-team] mailing lists on lists.debian.org

Hi, On Montag, 20. August 2012, Richard Darst wrote: > To answer Gaudenz's question about keyring maintenance, it wouldn't > need to be that hard. We add some standard people to keyring, and > when something needs to go to -announce, it is also cc'ed to -team, > and then *anyone* with a key can s

Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

On Mittwoch, 22. August 2012, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > No one has responded, yet. Is it really only Gunnar? me too > What about Python programmers? me too but I don't think the sheer number matters... ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@l

Re: [Debconf-team] Meeting dates and times rhythm ?

On Mittwoch, 22. August 2012, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > d) any other idea ? once a month, for now. In April we can start with a higher frequency. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

Hi David, thanks for the proposal, in general I like it very much! On Sonntag, 26. August 2012, David Bremner wrote: > 6) About DebConf Newbies this reminds me that I think we should have several budgets, ie in the case of dc13: - newbie sponsorship (30%) - european attendees sponsorship (25%)

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-data-commits] r3694 - dc13/website

On Mittwoch, 29. August 2012, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > + SUPPORTER > + Logo on our website this is plain wrong, please fix ASAP. > - Starting from 5000 USD. > + Starting from 6000 CHF. > - Starting from 12500 USD. > + Starting from 12000 CHF. > - Starting from USD 25000. > + Starti

Re: [Debconf-team] Signing the contract for Le Camp

Hi, dropping the -localteam cc: as everybody should be subscribed to -team anyway. On Donnerstag, 30. August 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > Mr. Pianaro asked the contract to be signed by two people present at the > last meeting we had. where is that contract? > I think is not a good idea. Me nei

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DebConf 13 legal association

On Freitag, 31. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > In Switzerland, DebConf's worst case scenario is that every foreign > sponsor and every person paying the professional rate will be charged > VAT (about 8%). Swiss companies who sponsor DebConf will get a rebate > of the 8% VAT on their tax retur

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

On Montag, 3. September 2012, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I also think that this goes too far. > > I think that the sponsorship committee should: > 1) verify that the funding asked for is adequate (given the expected >travel costs from the originating country) > 2) rank demands based on *benefit o

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Le Camp Contract

Hi, On Sonntag, 2. September 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > >>> * Food: The contract doesn't state, that we can freely choose the > >>> meals we need and only pay for those. The contract actually says we > >>> buy full board for everyone. > >>> According to Gaudenz this was already agreed with Mr

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Le Camp Contract

Hi, On Dienstag, 4. September 2012, Luca Capello wrote: > Ehm, it is in debconf-team (which is private), I guess you would like it > in debconf-data (which is public), do not you? yes > I do not see any problem having it in public, but given that I did not > remember if we asked 'Le Camp' about

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

Hi David, On Montag, 3. September 2012, David Bremner wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: > > On Montag, 3. September 2012, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >> I think that the sponsorship committee should: > >> 2) rank demands based on *benefit of attendance for Debian*. > &

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

Hi Daniel, On Montag, 3. September 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Actually, that is an interesting point no, its a boring old point... > If somebody's employer gives them a week of work time to attend DebConf, > should that company be recognised as a sponsor? no. We only count money (or directly

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

Hi, On Dienstag, 4. September 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > no. We only count money (or directly valuable ressources, usually things) > > into account for sponsoring. > > > > (I guesstimate) Half of the orgateam is freelancing, listing them as > > sponsors is... pointless or even totally besides

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

Hi Daniel, I will ignore your input regarding sponsorship from now, it's a waste of my time. I'd appreciate if you could find other areas in DebConf to work on^w^wdiscuss about (as you have clearly shown that you have little understanding how sponsoring and DebConf works). "New input and ideas

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-video] Debconf12 statistics

Hi Maswan, cc:ing debconf-team@ so someone can pick this up and put into the final report... On Donnerstag, 6. September 2012, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: > I know I promised this earlier, but here it finally is. For July&August > (and maybe the first couple of days of september) access statistics

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-video] Debconf12 statistics

Hi Gaudenz, On Donnerstag, 6. September 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > I wanted to add this number to the DC13 sponsoring brochure but > discovered that the archived videos do not show the sponsor logos. Are > there similar statistics available about the streams? I think the number > of unique IP

Re: [Debconf-team] BSP in Le Camp

Hi, On Mittwoch, 12. September 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > As it was previously mentioned it would be nice to organize a BSP in Le > Camp and take the opportunity to show the site to DebConf-Team members > that are willing to join. cool! how will the costs for renting le camp be covered? chee

Re: [Debconf-team] [DC13-Association] Bylaws and foundation GM minutes

Hi, On Freitag, 14. September 2012, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > As a followup of the ``DebConf13'' association Founding General Meeting > (FGM) last Wednesday Septembre 5. in Bern, here are the Bylaws (as agreed > by the founding members) and the minutes of the Fouding General Meeting. thanks f

Re: [Debconf-team] Next DC13 DebConf meeting - Wed 5. Sept 2012 19h15 - Adriano's, Bern

Hi, On Dienstag, 18. September 2012, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings/20120905#Minutes thanks for the minutes, but please include them in the mail. I've just wasted 15min until I successfully managed to get them via a very crappy connection. Think ab

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancelaltion of BSP in Le Camp

Hi Michale, On Mittwoch, 26. September 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > Since I could not sign the reservation for October 27 in Le Camp > I canceled it. why couldnt you sign? I didnt read anything related to this on the list?! So I can free that weekend in my calendar now...:/ cheers, Holg

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancelaltion of BSP in Le Camp

On Mittwoch, 26. September 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > So save your date and sorry for the misunderstanding. ack, cool! +thx! ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancelaltion of BSP in Le Camp

Hi Luca, On Donnerstag, 27. September 2012, Luca Capello wrote: > While the following needs a final confirmation, it seems that they have > found a common room for us: actually, there will probably be two > different rooms, one for Saturday and one for Sunday, but the fact that > we should have a

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

Hi, until when wants Le Camp us to sign the contract? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] Final call for DebConf13 sponsorship levels and benefits

Hi, just two small comments (for now): On Freitag, 28. September 2012, Luca Capello wrote: > [4] the price for one T-Shirt was based on the last SpaceFun/squeeze > T-Shirts produced by debian.ch, i.e. 14.05 EUR (raw material and > printing included). The total price showed is for 4

Re: [Debconf-team] Final call for DebConf13 sponsorship levels and benefits

Hi, On Freitag, 28. September 2012, Luca Capello wrote: > * SUPPORTER - up to 2'000 CHF > > + Logo on the sponsor web page > [[[move the next one to BRONZE?]]] > + Provide corporate materials in conference bags I dont think we should move this benefit. > * BRONZE - starting from 2'000 CHF

Re: [Debconf-team] Final call for DebConf13 sponsorship levels and benefits

Hi, On Freitag, 28. September 2012, Luca Capello wrote: [about t-shirts] > See my comment above, while replying to Daniel and continuing with the > current situation I completely ignored everything unrelated with > accommodation or food. sorry, whats your reply about tshirts? I havent seen it (an

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

On Mittwoch, 3. Oktober 2012, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > Agreed. Also, should we extend this argument for some sponsors like one in > DC12 which provided (or tried to) some money for Central Americans only? > Technically speaking it limits the orga team autonomy as well. limitations are fine, i

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

On Freitag, 5. Oktober 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > > - will they reconsider the possibility of allowing us to cook? > No. > > > - if there are less days, are the daily rates still the seem? > Probably yes. IOW: you dont see _any_ room for (useful) negotiations? ___

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

On Freitag, 5. Oktober 2012, Philipp Hug wrote: > For me there are two problems: > * Food must be by meals consumed and not full board. And if there's an > option that we don't need to take the food from them, I would just have the > number of meals removed from the contract. e.g. by saying: food c

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

On Freitag, 5. Oktober 2012, Philipp Hug wrote: > The current offer for food is about 25% of their annual food sales budget. > And this only for 2 weeks. > So, I think there should be some flexibility on their side :-) ui. to say it very mildly. ___ De

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

On Freitag, 5. Oktober 2012, Luca Capello wrote: > Please, can we have a list of what is wrong and what should be changed, - food prices / no cooking option / that - no way to shorten days to decrease price - what else? basically that they are not flexible _and_ expensive. ___

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

Hi, On Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 11/10/12 19:28, Luca Capello wrote: > > Here a resume of the problems, please correct me if I am wrong or if I > > have missed something: AFAICS this list is right. > > Given the current situation, we need clearer answers from them,

[Debconf-team] reading thru the meeting logs...

Hi, I'm reading through the meeting log and these are my comments. 1. budget is now (?) assuming 220K, with 100k coming from sponsors and 100k coming from attendees and 20k missing. reply: frankly speaking, thats not my DebConf, 100k from attendees means 250 from each attendee, if 400 come an

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 cost reduction / additional income idea 2 - food

Hi, On Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Doing this might reduce the number of attendees, because some might just > not be able to afford paying for food themselves. This in turn would > increase our per attendee costs. Overall we could save as much as about > 100'000.- CHF if

Re: [Debconf-team] reading thru the meeting logs...

Hi, just appending some info which was given on IRC: (for those not following IRC.) On Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > 3a. So assuming we'd sign the lecamp contract (or any others introducing > > 150K in costs) how would you propose to deal with the, eg, 100K debt? > > Share

Re: [Debconf-team] How many Swiss sponsors are expected?

Hi, On Donnerstag, 25. Oktober 2012, Moray Allan wrote: > It is of course worth contacting as many as possible, quite apart from > how the budget looks at present. And evidence from other fund-raising > suggest that some more sustained/personal contact would probably get a > better success rate t

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

On Freitag, 26. Oktober 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > > - Are they currently expecting us to say "yes" and sign by Monday 29 > > October? > > The expected us to sign in September. > > As I wrote to answer gaudenz, they consider the pre reservation mail > sent by Luca after winning the bid legally b

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

On Samstag, 27. Oktober 2012, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > August, _while_nothing_changed_since_then_. things changed: people had time to look at the contract (and their "communication style".) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.o

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

On Freitag, 26. Oktober 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > From what I understood (please Luca confirm), they take the pre > reservation we did (when Luca confirmed to them just after winning the > big) as a binding contract. they can take whatever as whatever, that doesnt mean they are right _

[Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 1: Roundtable of preference of all people present

Hi, so, this is a first in a serious of mails I plan to send tonight. Please don't bother replying until I ask for feedback in "the final mail". I'm really tired and highlighting and distracting me will make this take longer and steal from my sleep later. And sending this mail in pieces will he

[Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 2: le venue & le contract

Hi, so, second in a serious series of serious mails send on a Sunday night. After the roundtable, Phillip Hug, Michele Cane and myself met with the manager of Le Camp. Michele was present in previous negotiations with Le Camp (and understands German) and Phillip was there, as he also wanted to

[Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

Hi, so, you can flame now. Aka, this short serious series is over for today, hopefully to be continued already tomorrow... So, as a meeting in Le Camp we came to the conclusion to recommend to the globalteam to have DebConf13 in Le Camp and also to come to a final decision rather fast. Thats w

[Debconf-team] definitly missing, I think...

Hi, whats been definitly missing in my mails, I think, is why now I think we can get that much sponsorship as we will need (though it was partly on IRC). Simply said: I expect that the real answer is in sponsors-table in git now or will be RSN. cheers, Holger (and there are other aspe

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp / payment terms / the DebDebt?

Hi, On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > For the instalments: has DebConf usually raised cash so quickly and so > far in advance? I have previously heard that most cash comes 1 month > before DebConf. we already have 6k at least (=might be 11) plus those 2x20k plus its still >4 m

Re: [Debconf-team] Website restyle

Hi, On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Raphaël Walther wrote: > I think we should remove the permanent sponsors until they commit. they commited already, thats why there "permanently" listed. > Also > I'd like to help on the website because I think that most of potential > sponsors will have at least

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp / payment terms / the DebDebt?

On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Philipp Hug wrote: > I do agree, that there's a risk here. As we only get the final invoice > after the conference we might get a surprise because we calculated > differently than LeCamp. right, there is a risk. but can we migate it, maybe? and if so how? /me yawns.

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 1-3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Moray Allan wrote: > The problem is anyway not to answer "Le Camp vs. Interlaken". It has > not yet been shown that either of these options will work with > acceptable risks, IMO it has for Le Camp. ___ Debconf-team mailing

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

Hi, On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Moray Allan wrote: > On 2012-10-28 23:52, Holger Levsen wrote: > > we decide RSN. > I would hope so. No, just hoping is too little. We should activly work towards that goal!! If we dont manage to decide in the next 14 days, I personally think that

[Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 4: some random prices in switzerland

Hi, just some random data points on what I spent during my 3 days in Switzerland. I didnt see a supermarket from inside, just kiosks & bars, basically. 4.10 CHF 1 tram (public transport) within Zurich, single trip 9.00 CHF 2 coffees in train 3.50 CHF crossaint and a cookie (in zurich) 6.90 C

[Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 5: pics

Hi, http://layer-acht.org/fotos/670_Switzerland_DC13-pre/ has some photos I took this weekend. Please excuse the crappy quality! :-) Some stats I forgot so far: - 5-10 RC bugs squashed (some people did work on this a bit, but we didnt really keep track...) - 3kg cheese were eaten, I guess - on

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

Hi, On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Friday 2nd I can't attend. Monday 5th is OK. Wednesday 31th as proposed > by Gunnar is OK for me as well. I think in addition to the chairs (or at > least 2 chairs) it's also important that at least 3 persons highly > involed locally are

Re: [Debconf-team] A better budget analysis

On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012, Michael Banck wrote: > I don't think that would be a problem, but I think it would also be > problematic to put professionals into dorms. As I understand, there are > only a limited amount of other rooms (how many?) which we could use for > professionals (who would p

Re: [Debconf-team] A better budget analysis

On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012, Ana Guerrero wrote: > If I understood right, the 32 sleeping bed dorm is: > http://layer-acht.org/fotos/670_Switzerland_DC13-pre/20121027_027_Sm.jpg.61 > .html yes > > the rest are regular rooms with beds. (though I agree people who pay > > should get a 2 or 4 peop

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

Hi, On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Yes, I proposed the 7th, as tomorrow I'll leave Mexico City around > 10AM (UTC-6), so the meeting would have to be incredibly early for our > standards (and quite hurried as well). > > Again - I'm OK with the meeting being on the 5th without

Re: [Debconf-team] A better budget analysis

On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > So only 1/6 of the beds is really bad. And at least to me they all seem > better or at least equal to the 80 beds in the big tents in Interlaken. > All the other beds available at Balmer's in Interlaken are about the > same quality as the bed

Re: [Debconf-team] A better budget analysis

On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > In reality, though, someone who can claim 600 CHF from their company to > pay the professional fee can probably stay in a hotel, so maybe just > charge them the fixed cost element only? sure they can. but most people are *happy* to support DebC

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 5: pics

On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > http://layer-acht.org/fotos/670_Switzerland_DC13-pre/20121027_027_Sm.jpg.61 > .html > Seriously? > Are you actively trying to kill it, or why is that picin there? You can't > really plan that for accommodation? sigh - for me not taking more pic

Re: [Debconf-team] bad bed comparison

Hi Jonathan, On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > (Note I'm not really expecting this mail to change anything, but I was > asked to send my feedback by someone who saw me casually complain on > IRC. I'm older these days and taking time off work to go to a conference > where I'

Re: [Debconf-team] beds & camping (Was: reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 2: le venue & le contract)

Hi Lucas, On Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Questions: > - Does the 300 figure include campers? i.e., could it be 250 people in > beds + 50 people in tents? Or do we need to reach 300 people in bed to > allow for campers? basically, if we dont sleep in their beds/houses,

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 5: pics

On Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012, Michael Banck wrote: > https://gallery.debconf.org/v/debconf3/wolfgangklier/afp.jpg.html *g* ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 local organization

Hi, On Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Richard Darst writes: > > A while ago, I talked with some people about the DC13 local > > organization. There were some interesting things about it thanks for bringing this up now, Richard. I do think it's important we update http://

Re: [Debconf-team] Budget tradeoffs vs amount of fundraising

Hi, On Donnerstag, 1. November 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Thanks for your analysis. indeed, thanks a lot! > I don't think the DC12 numbers are a good point of reference. For DC12 > looking for sponsors started very late (around March IIRC). We still > have more than double the time to look

Re: [Debconf-team] A better budget analysis

Hi, On Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012, Michael Banck wrote: > Specifically, I think we should determine whether we can bring unlimited > (so far as cooling/storage is possible) foods and (alocoholic) drinks > along, while guaranteeing that we will not sell those to participants > (this last point is q

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 local organization

Hi Philipp, thanks for your reply, just one comment: On Freitag, 2. November 2012, Philipp Hug wrote: > > Whatever was discussed and agreed during DC12 is not documented on > > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/MoneyFlow - so let's do this now. > Agreed, this needs to be documented. Can you do that p

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 local organization

On Freitag, 2. November 2012, Holger Levsen wrote: > > I understand Darst's concern that he wants to have this clarified now, > > before we sign anything. > Then let's do that, I don't think this is difficult nor controversial at > all. and to clarify this: I

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 local organization + darst's financial system

Hi, On Samstag, 3. November 2012, Richard Darst wrote: > I still consider it problematic that the "official" budget is not > public I agree. > Just for the record, here is my recommended layout of documents: > debconf-data/budget.ods - Public. Expected costs and incomes. > debconf-team/attendee

Re: [Debconf-team] Contract updated

Hi Michele, On Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc13/accounting/contracts/Le_ > Camp/Contrat%20Debconf13%20-%2030-10-2012.pdf?view=log looks ok to me - what did Le Camp reply? > can someone add me to the repository please (heiserhorn

[Debconf-team] DPL approved budget for DebConf13

Hi zack, hi -team, in two days on Wednesday, the 7th at 19 UTC, we'll have another IRC meeting on #debconf-team, to hopefully finally settle on a venue, hopefully based on a serious^wsane budget(s plans). These budgets (AIUI) are still missing, so this mail is mostly about defining the process

Re: [Debconf-team] RMLL budget feedback (was DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels)

comparing DebConf and RMLL is like comparing apples and cows, as both can be eaten. IOW: not really helpful. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] professional and corporate numbers from previous years

Hi Ana, thanks for the interesting statistics! On Dienstag, 6. November 2012, Ana Guerrero wrote: > ... Given le camp is in a place isolated, I fear some people > not finding alternatives easily might give up in attending this year. actually it's not that isolated, it's 15-20min by car to eithe

Re: [Debconf-team] A better budget analysis

On Mittwoch, 7. November 2012, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > This mail is an example of what I *DON'T* want DebConf to become. "As > they are the ones paying, these people should be listened to very > closely"... NO. Not at all. If you are a paying professional, we will > thank you from the bottom of our he

[Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp "BSP", part 6: trust + seeing is believing

Hi, so in the beginning of my switzerland visit I was thinking why I was there and that this why should be documented. So let's do this here for now, and then I plan to put this into the wiki under Category:DebConfManual. So what's the purpose of these venue/country pre-visits which we have don

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