On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:20:24PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mardi, 9 juillet 2013 16.54:46, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
> > Is anybody considering alternative strategies like disposable plates
> > and cutlery? I don't believe it is a good option, but if the
> > volunteer option is chos
Le mardi, 9 juillet 2013 16.54:46, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
> What about transport? Do they have to definitely finish and go home
> at 22:00 or whenever the last bus departs? Do they have cars and
> can they potentially work more hours if the work isn't finished by
> 22:00?
As I understand it, we
On 09/07/13 15:06, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 01:39:43PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> On Dienstag, 9. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
>>> I really need a decision today.
>> Eight more hours and you'll have it :)
> Looking forward to have it :)
>
>>> B. Dishwashing partia
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
Le mardi, 9 juillet 2013 13.53:44, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit :
> this amount sounds way more reasonable to me. (I also think its
> better to use volunteers in the morning and paid staff in the
> evening...)
So if we get cold meals for lunch there'll be no st
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 01:39:43PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Dienstag, 9. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> > I really need a decision today.
>
> Eight more hours and you'll have it :)
Looking forward to have it :)
> > B. Dishwashing partialy done by 3 students from 14:00 to 22:00 for
Le mardi, 9 juillet 2013 13.53:44, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit :
> > this amount sounds way more reasonable to me. (I also think its
> > better to use volunteers in the morning and paid staff in the
> > evening...)
>
> So if we get cold meals for lunch there'll be no staff needed. Let's
> wait fo
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 07:53:44AM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> > this amount sounds way more reasonable to me. (I also think its better to
> > use volunteers in the morning and paid staff in the evening...)
>
> So if we get cold meals for lunch there'll be no staff needed. Let's wait for
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 01:39:43PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi Raphaël,
>
> On Dienstag, 9. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> > I really need a decision today.
>
> Eight more hours and you'll have it :)
>
> > B. Dishwashing partialy done by 3 students from 14:00 to 22:00 for total
> > cos
Hi,
I think cleaning in the evening will be more work and thus I suggested what I
suggested...
cheers,
Holger
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> this amount sounds way more reasonable to me. (I also think its better to
> use
> volunteers in the morning and paid staff in the evening...)
>
I think OdyX's approach is better, if someone wants to organize a
dishwashing team: paid in the morning/afternoon. and volunteers in the
evening.
This w
Hi Raphaël,
On Dienstag, 9. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> I really need a decision today.
Eight more hours and you'll have it :)
> B. Dishwashing partialy done by 3 students from 14:00 to 22:00 for total
> cost of CHF 2640 and volunteer based in the morning.
this amount sounds way more re
Le lundi, 8 juillet 2013 21.09:43, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit :
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:21:37PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > First, this has been proposed and dismissed at the latest DebConf
> > Team meeting [0].
>
> Right, but it's not clear to me that we couldn't go back to this
Le mardi, 9 juillet 2013 05.16:15, Raphaël Walther a écrit :
> So I just describe our options during DebConf here:
>
> A. Dishwashing fully volunteer based at no cost for the association.
> B. Dishwashing partialy done by 3 students from 14:00 to 22:00 for
> total cost of CHF 2640 and volunteer ba
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:38:36PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> So, my suggestion is to have two teams :
> a) 3 people from 10:00 to 16:00
> b) 3 people from 16:00 to 22:00
>
> They will prepare tables and be responsible for dishwashing.
>
> With current forfait, this would mean
> Forfait
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:16:13PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Hi Gaudenz,
>
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:12:51PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > Brian Gupta writes:
> > > That said, it does seem the hourly rates quoted seem high for the
> > > nature of the work, so it would probably be wor
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:38:36PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> The cleaning rates seem reasonable for a cleaning company. I hear the
> lowest cash rate paid to a cleaner is about 20 CHF/hour although many
> refuse to work for less than 25 or 30. 20 CHF/hr is about the same as
> the net rate the
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:14:50AM +0100, Moray Allan wrote:
> On 2013-07-08 21:20, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> >IMO the way to go is that before tomorrows meeting we need to find
> >enough persons willing to organize the dishwashing by volunteers
> >and who
> >are commited enough that in case of fai
On 2013-07-08 21:20, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
IMO the way to go is that before tomorrows meeting we need to find
enough persons willing to organize the dishwashing by volunteers and
who
are commited enough that in case of failure they are ready to do the
unstaffed shifts themselves.
I'd emphas
Hi Gaudenz,
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:12:51PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Brian Gupta writes:
> > That said, it does seem the hourly rates quoted seem high for the
> > nature of the work, so it would probably be worth exploring lower cost
> > options, but in the end, I think we really shoul
On 08/07/13 20:37, Brian Gupta wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Patty Langasek wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>>> seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be
>>> filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3%
Patty Langasek writes:
> If this is the way we're going with this, we need to have the dishwashing
> volunteer crew staffed and ready to start with the first full meal (lunch)
> and finish with the last dinner, and someone to be responsible in the event
> the crew can't manage the workload.
>
>
Hi Gregor,
On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, gregor herrmann wrote:
> I consider it totally reasonable to strongly ask (at least sponsored)
> participants to sign up for 1-2 shifts of dishwashing, and I'd
> suggest to do this during registration: "Here's your name badge, your
> room is over there, and plea
Hi
Brian Gupta writes:
> That said, it does seem the hourly rates quoted seem high for the
> nature of the work, so it would probably be worth exploring lower cost
> options, but in the end, I think we really should be looking at not
> having Developers missing sessions to wash dishes.
I can as
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 11:18:10 -0700, Patty Langasek wrote:
> This was part of a long debate - unless we have enough volunteers dedicated
> to handling this, or people who will take responsibility in the event that
> the volunteers ... choose not to complete this task, it's unreasonable to
> expec
On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> It's not necessarily true that attendees will miss important sessions if
> they decided to volunteer on this. They will probably put their names for
> date/time that they feel comfortable doing so without loosing anything
> important. Socializi
Hello Patty,
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:37:34AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:38:36PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> > DISHWASHING
> >
> > Total CHF 7523.16
> > Budget CHF 5600
> > =
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:21:37PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le lundi, 8 juillet 2013 20.04:35, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit :
> > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let
> > > them be filled b
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:37:01PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Patty Langasek wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> >> seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be
> >> filled by volunteers... 5k for
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Patty Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be
>> filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget.
>
>
> This was part of a
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be
> filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget.
This was part of a long debate - unless we have enough volunteers dedicated
to h
Le lundi, 8 juillet 2013 20.04:35, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit :
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let
> > them be filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of
> > our total budget.
>
> +1
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be
> filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget.
+1
I'd join a team to coordinate volunteers on this.
Regards,
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seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be
filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget.
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On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> DISHWASHING
> Total cost CHF 5280
wow :(
I'm not sure this is sensible...
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On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:38:36PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> Hi there,
> This is quite urgent please read. I would need your input as soon as possible.
Thank you so much for looking into this!
> DISHWASHING
> Well, I have three persons interested for dishwashing and helping for CHF 800
>
Hi there,
This is quite urgent please read. I would need your input as soon as possible.
DISHWASHING
Well, I have three persons interested for dishwashing and helping for CHF 800
per person from 10 august 2013 to 18 august 2013. The issue are the day will be
very long for them from 10:00 to 22:0
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