Hi
Gunnar Wolf writes:
> Richard Darst dijo [Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:23:56AM -0400]:
>> FWIW, I haven't been too active but I have been paying attention.
>> Local team has well done their due, listened to disadvantages
>> presented, and at least I agree now that an association is a
>> reasonabl
On 02/09/12 11:30, Philipp Hug wrote:
> For non-swiss companies we expect to not need to charge VAT.
This is really positive and what I'm sure everyone was hoping - but when
you say `expect', does that mean it is still being investigated, or it
is subject to some application for charitable statu
Hi Philipp,
Why is that? Do you think that it's not eligible to be recognized as a
> charitable non-profit? I'm just interpolating from German law, but for
> non-profit missions you're not able to recover VAT and not obliged to
> collect
> VAT. Of course that would depend on the association being
* Philipp Kern (pk...@debian.org) [120901 20:51]:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:21:09AM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> > The budget of dc13 is above the limit where you have to start paying VAT,
> > whereas debian.ch's budget isn't and won't be in the near future.
>
> Why is that? Do you think that it
Philipp Kern writes:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:21:09AM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
>> The budget of dc13 is above the limit where you have to start paying VAT,
>> whereas debian.ch's budget isn't and won't be in the near future.
>
> Why is that? Do you think that it's not eligible to be recogniz
On 01/09/12 20:41, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:21:09AM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
>> The budget of dc13 is above the limit where you have to start paying VAT,
>> whereas debian.ch's budget isn't and won't be in the near future.
>
> Why is that? Do you think that it's not eligib
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:21:09AM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> The budget of dc13 is above the limit where you have to start paying VAT,
> whereas debian.ch's budget isn't and won't be in the near future.
Why is that? Do you think that it's not eligible to be recognized as a
charitable non-profit?
Hi Richard
Richard Darst writes:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 08:45:35AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
>> I disagree with this, as I've observed in the past. For one thing, it
>> doesn't seem to me that it is *that* easy to create this association.
>> One argument is that, if it were so, it'd
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 02:21:54PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le vendredi, 31 août 2012 13.28:06, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
> > On the issue of (a) leftover money and (b) membership, this is where a
> > limited company may be more appropriate, e.g DC13 GmbH or DC13 AG?
>
> No. Clearly not.
On 31/08/12 13:56, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Freitag, 31. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> In Switzerland, DebConf's worst case scenario is that every foreign
>> sponsor and every person paying the professional rate will be charged
>> VAT (about 8%). Swiss companies who sponsor DebConf will ge
On 31/08/12 15:39, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
> On 31.08.2012 14:46, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>> For example, I've heard that anyone who wants to make a GmbH or AG has
>> to pay a big security deposit for their employer taxes, and 10,000 CHF
>> per year in admin fees - those would be strong reasons
On 31.08.2012 14:46, Daniel Pocock wrote:
For example, I've heard that anyone who wants to make a GmbH or AG has
to pay a big security deposit for their employer taxes, and 10,000 CHF
per year in admin fees - those would be strong reasons not to make a
company in Switzerland, but instead of an a
On 31/08/12 14:21, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le vendredi, 31 août 2012 13.28:06, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
>> On the issue of (a) leftover money and (b) membership, this is where a
>> limited company may be more appropriate, e.g DC13 GmbH or DC13 AG?
>
> No. Clearly not. In Switzerland, an ass
Le vendredi, 31 août 2012 13.28:06, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
> On the issue of (a) leftover money and (b) membership, this is where a
> limited company may be more appropriate, e.g DC13 GmbH or DC13 AG?
No. Clearly not. In Switzerland, an association is the correct form of
organisation to handle a
On Freitag, 31. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> In Switzerland, DebConf's worst case scenario is that every foreign
> sponsor and every person paying the professional rate will be charged
> VAT (about 8%). Swiss companies who sponsor DebConf will get a rebate
> of the 8% VAT on their tax retur
On 31/08/12 11:21, Philipp Hug wrote:
>>> not be much more bureaucratic burden than "provide conclusive accounting
>> for
>>> DebConf13" and "agree where the remaining money (or depts) shall go"
>> that we
>>> will have to do anyway.
>>
>
> The accounting has to be separate anyway and the good t
Hi Stefano,
> Most != all. Some *some* overhead does exist.
>
> For me, as the treasurer of debian.ch, the main reason to have a separate
organisation is a tax and accounting issue.
The budget of dc13 is above the limit where you have to start paying VAT,
whereas debian.ch's budget isn't and won
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 09:47:38AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > I disagree with this, as I've observed in the past. For one thing, it
> > doesn't seem to me that it is *that* easy to create this association.
> > One argument is that, if it were so, it'd have already existed by now,
> > no
Hi Stefano,
first, thanks for your rapid feedback on this subject.
Le vendredi, 31 août 2012 08.45:35, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> > *** Possible solutions for DebConf 13 ***
> >
> > The easiest option to form a legal body for DebConf 13 is to form an
> > association (Verein) under Swiss civ
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