Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Darst
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 08:52:18AM +0800, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I was only about to advance the same concern that Moray already advanced > in a follow-up: deadlines. Saying we merge every year will be close to > useless, if the merge window will be open for several months ... >From my exper

Re: [Debconf-team] professional attendees, debconf11

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Richard Darst wrote: >> I guess we could say "Cost of hotel registration at ", >> since if our ideal plan works out they wouldn't have to pay us >> anything. > > hmm.. I now see the downside of letting them deal wit

Re: [Debconf-team] professional attendees, debconf11

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Richard Darst wrote: > I guess we could say "Cost of hotel registration at ", > since if our ideal plan works out they wouldn't have to pay us > anything. hmm.. I now see the downside of letting them deal with the hotels ;) What about food? And should we ask for a

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf discussion: Venue bid process

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Moray Allan wrote: > As said elsewhere, it should come down (at worst) to a non-private > vote using Debian's standard procedures. I'm not sure you are referred to this, but I consider the irc meeting where I brought this up sarcastically as one of the worsts mom

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf money (or debts?) at SPI (Re: Extra money we forgot we had

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Darst
Bringing FFIS treasurer in so that we can clarify how the accounts/earmarks work... On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 06:02:28PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Freitag, 18. Februar 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > AFAIK, this is what is already happening on the other side of the ocean > > (i.e

Re: [Debconf-team] professional attendees, debconf11

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Darst
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 05:02:21PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > I was made aware that some people need prices for professional attendees now > but can't find them, guess because we don't have them yet. Some companies > need them earlier as others, so we should come up with them asap. I

Re: [Debconf-team] Long-term accounting plans, RFH: past organizers

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Darst
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 03:56:10PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > /me nods. I think asking the previous years main organizers directly is > probably a good start... > I think you'll also find some data digging in Debians financial history :-) I am working on that, starting with most recent confe

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [DC11] Accommodation

2011-03-20 Thread Adnan Hodzic
> But what's the current status?  The final prices were going to come > 'tomorrow' -- are the hotels just being slow, or do they not want to > reduce significantly? Being slow. I'm going to Banja Luka this Wednesday, I'm planning to meet with hotel owners and hopefully we'll get those prices fixed

[Debconf-team] DebConf money (or debts?) at SPI (Re: Extra money we forgot we had

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 18. Februar 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > AFAIK, this is what is already happening on the other side of the ocean > (i.e. at SPI): money are all together, with specific DebConf earmark. I > presume DebConf people could know the earmark by asking the SPI > treasurer. So whats

Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Moray Allan wrote: > > So, I think we should do this: ask ffis e.V. if they are willing to spawn > > a DebConfX account each year, then we give the DPL and the Debian auditor > > direct access to that ffis account too and then close this account at the > > "end of th

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf discussion: Venue bid process

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > How does this comitee decide? (I think we are getting there, I just want to > point out that "the comitee decides" is just slightly better than "a decision > is made". Both are too unspecific and lack details, like > timelines+timelimits.) A

Re: [Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Moray Allan wrote: > - If we're having a cut-off time, I would suggest that there's some > buffer period on that (the cut-off length is more than the planned > time), so that we don't just go "oops, it's two hours now? stop > immediately" when we could have been don

Re: [Debconf-team] professional attendees, debconf11

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Darst
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > http://debconf10.debconf.org/cfp.xhtml was published on March, 14th, 2010, so > compared to that we are a bit late. That CfP (which was actually published > as "call for contributions" which I like even better than CfP) had a deadl

Re: [Debconf-team] professional attendees, debconf11

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Holger Levsen wrote: > On a related topic, a CfP (not to mention a actual schedule) would also > help ;) On http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Teams#Talks I see nothing > about CfP, that worries me slightly. it's written there, just not CfP but "Call for talks,

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf discussion: Venue bid process

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, coming late to this party... :) On Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2010, Moray Allan wrote: > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:23 PM, gregor herrmann wrote: > > - "A decision is made." sums up my main issue quite well -- it's not > >  specified who takes the decision and how it's taken. > This is a clear fl

Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Darst
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 03:55:27PM +, Moray Allan wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > > So, I think we should do this: ask ffis e.V. if they are willing to spawn a > > DebConfX account each year, then we give the DPL and the Debian auditor > > direct access to that

[Debconf-team] professional attendees, debconf11

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, I was made aware that some people need prices for professional attendees now but can't find them, guess because we don't have them yet. Some companies need them earlier as others, so we should come up with them asap. On a related topic, a CfP (not to mention a actual schedule) would also h

Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > So, I think we should do this: ask ffis e.V. if they are willing to spawn a > DebConfX account each year, then we give the DPL and the Debian auditor > direct access to that ffis account too and then close this account at > the "end of the De

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf discussion: Venue bid process

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 16. März 2011, Moray Allan wrote: > DebConf venue bid process (draft 3) in short: /me likes! Thanks _a lot_ for working on this. I'm really happy about how well this process is already defined, even with the shortcomings there still are. But in general, this is really good and

Re: [Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > I'm (very much) fine with this. (Though I notice there is no explicit > topic "global team / interested people ask the bids questions" - I think > there should be one, even if short, and even if the time for asking question > has been the las

[Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, so we had a long thread how to deal with DebConf/Debian money handled at ffis e.V., whether we make it a Debian account with DebConf people access rights, or a DebConf one with Debian people having access rights. So here is what I propose, which is actually what Richard proposed: I person

[Debconf-team] Call for help with DebConf12 decision (was Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March)

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
As an additional point, the recently delegated DebConf chairs are looking for one or two people from outside those currently most involved in DebConf organisation to help out if we can't get a DebConf12 venue decision by consensus. (We prefer consensus, but if there's a need to break a tie, we'd l

Re: [Debconf-team] Long-term accounting plans

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Richard, in short: awesome! On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Richard Darst wrote: > I'm looking for > feedback - this shouldn't be considered a proposal yet. *thats* a pity! ;) > Taking care of the past > === > > Go through past records as best I can. Try to figure out the ne

Re: [Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, Moray, thanks for following up on this topic and reminding us! On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Moray Allan wrote: > Agenda: > > * Introductions/questions > * Bid teams describe how their bid meets each of the points on the > priority list (http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PriorityList) > * Bid teams

Re: [Debconf-team] [DC11] Accommodation

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Velimir Iveljic wrote: > The hotel prices are still being negotiated.. But what's the current status? The final prices were going to come 'tomorrow' -- are the hotels just being slow, or do they not want to reduce significantly? > We are expecting some more info

Re: [Debconf-team] [DC11] Accommodation

2011-03-20 Thread Velimir Iveljic
Hi, On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Moray Allan wrote: > Hi DC11 local team, > > Did you succeed in getting some better prices for the hotels, as you > hoped to do last week? > > It would also be helpful to post here some more details about the > student residences.  As I understand it, we can u

Re: [Debconf-team] Question for DebConf12 bids: Costs

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: > Unfortunately we could not get the alternative place we were looking for, so > the prices on the BID page are the best prices we could get. If you were chosen for DebConf11, would you be able to find a different alternative ven

[Debconf-team] [DC11] Accommodation

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
Hi DC11 local team, Did you succeed in getting some better prices for the hotels, as you hoped to do last week? It would also be helpful to post here some more details about the student residences. As I understand it, we can use them for free, and they're about 1.5 km away from the planned main

Re: [Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
Just an additional reminder to the DebConf12 bid teams in preparation for this meeting: Please prepare material in advance for these agenda points: * short description of how your bid meets the priority list items * the weak points in your own bid * the strong points in the other bid. You are

[Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-20 Thread Moray Allan
Reminder: The DebConf12 venue decision meeting will take place on Tuesday 22 March 2011, starting at 20:00 UTC, in #debconf-team on irc.debian.org. Everyone interested in where DebConf will happen in 2012 is encouraged to read through the competing bids' documents and attend the meeting. The lat

Re: [Debconf-team] the 4000 or so EUR cash form dc9

2011-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jimmy, On Sonntag, 20. März 2011, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > I'm happy to deposit this into SPI's Chase account, and I already have the > necessary access. I will do so within the next week and reply to this > thread once it is done to let you know the exchange rate we got. great, thanks! (And