At 02:12 AM 7/23/00 -0400, Steve Schear wrote:
>At 07:30 PM 7/21/00 -0400, David Honig wrote:
>>At 07:00 PM 7/21/00 -0400, Tim May wrote:
>>Indeed. And the solution to both is crypto: wear disguises in public,
>>and use anonymity.
>>
>>I was thinking about laws making masks illegal. Can you tur
David Honig wrote:
> >there's a difference between this and a database system. almost all laws
> >on privacy (where such exist) realize that.
>
> Really? What's to stop me from 'gargoyling' (to use a _snow crash_ term):
> running a few VCRs on my surroundings as I wander in public, later indexing
Tim May wrote:
> As for Tom Vogt's claim that European privacy laws have exemptions
> for the things cited in the discussion, this is false. Companies with
> even small data bases are required to register. (We had a discussion
> of this a few years back. Someone who does business in the U.K.
> rep
Tim May wrote:
> By the way, it seems very likely that the DejaNews data base would
> run afoul of the Data Privacy Laws in many or most European
> countries. Getting permission from all of those millions of persons,
> offering to let them examine what had been compiled on them, etc.
you should r
"Benjamin M. Brewer" wrote:
> Could someone write an encryption algorithm that made the text into some
> sort of non-english looking language, without making it obvious that the
> information had been encrypted? How secure could such a algorithm be?
as secure as you want, if you don't mind blowin
Jim Choate wrote:
>
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Tim May wrote:
>
> > As Judge Bork correctly noted, there is no "right to privacy."
>
> Both of you are wrong, simply ignoring the 9th won't make it go away.
>
> Amendment IX
>
>The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not
At 04:39 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote:
>David Honig wrote:
>> >there's a difference between this and a database system. almost all laws
>> >on privacy (where such exist) realize that.
>>
>> Really? What's to stop me from 'gargoyling' (to use a _snow crash_ term):
>> running a few VCRs on my s
At 12:42 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Reese wrote:
> >>Japan may not have the US constitution, but their current constitution
> >>was written by the US government in 1946. The American concepts of
> >>civil rights are most definitely a part of the Japanese constitution.
> >>For those who may be interested:
Sunday a note appeared in the LA Times
that the BBC was releasing Monday an interview
with a UK cabinet minister who admits she authorized
the Gerry Adams car bugging last year. (Adams found
the bug) Anyone heard the interview yet?
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/2723/t69193.html
Ex-Official Admits She OKd Bugging of
Sinn Fein Car
N. Ireland: 'Lives were being
lost,' and
the 19
At 11:20 AM 24/07/00 -0400, David Honig wrote:
>At 12:42 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Reese wrote:
>> >>Japan may not have the US constitution, but their current constitution
>> >>was written by the US government in 1946. The American concepts of
>> >>civil rights are most definitely a part of the Japan
I guess this confirms the info Mike Shaver mentioned the June Toronto
Cypherpunks meeting.
now with part of the code "out"...i'd like to hear what people have to say
(good & bad) about it.
regards
robert
--On July 24, 2000 11:52 AM -0400 cypherpunks-digest
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>From: "Esteban Gutierrez-Moguel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> a solution that problem could be a cipher where a key (K1) decrypts the
>> ciphertext to the real text and a key (K2) decrypts the ciphertext to a
>> meaningful text, but not the real one. In that way if the police requires
>> the key you ca
Bill Stewart wrote:
> And US public schools can ban funny-colored hair,
Has this actually happened?
Tim May wrote:
> Well, the best way to increase signal is to--drum roll--increase signal.
...
> I don't want to belittle you, but it is passing strange when folks
> who aren't contributing signal then complain that there is not enough
> signal!
I sympathise a bit with people who don't really want
An Metet wrote:
>
> Cryptome.org seems to be unreachable for several days. The host is
> responding to pings, but WWW doesn't work. Same for jya.com. What's
> wrong?
See the list traffic for the past day or two. (It's archived on
http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/ in case you're a new member.)
At 2:06 PM -0400 7/24/00, Steven Furlong wrote:
>Tim May wrote:
>> Well, the best way to increase signal is to--drum roll--increase signal.
>...
>> I don't want to belittle you, but it is passing strange when folks
>> who aren't contributing signal then complain that there is not enough
>> sig
Anonymous wrote:
>
> Bill Stewart wrote:
>
> > And US public schools can ban funny-colored hair,
>
> Has this actually happened?
Short answer: Yes.
One kid when I was in high school (early '80's) was forced by the
school administration to shave his head after he dyed his hair (blue?)
(green?)
At 2:40 PM -0400 on 7/24/00, Steven Furlong wrote:
>
>Cryptome seems to be slashdotted, and drudged,
Drudge got the URL for JYA's page wrong which means its been busy
doing nothing but generating error messages for those connecting from
Drudge's site which have prevented it from serving legit
David Honig wrote:
> >said difference? namely the one between manual and automatic data
> >processing.
>
> That's the implementation detail I'm varying in this gedankenexperiment,
> but since when does implementation matter for law/morality?
for the german privacy law: ever since it was made. ac
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From: "Anon User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > In light of the above it is interesting and instructive to note the
thoughts
> > of the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzche in his work Beyond Good and
> > Evil:
>
> The name is Nietzsche.
I just forwarded that, I copied it verbatim
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From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >At 9:59 PM -0400 7/22/00, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> >On the contrary, I thought her post was quite informative. You seem to
> >have confused impartial reporting with sympathy. Just because she didn't
> >do the "Tim May style racist call fo
At 06:03 AM 7/24/00 -1000, Reese wrote:
>At 11:20 AM 24/07/00 -0400, David Honig wrote:
> >At 12:42 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Reese wrote:
> >> >>Japan may not have the US constitution, but their current constitution
> >> >>was written by the US government in 1946. The American concepts of
> >> >>civil r
At 2:04 PM -0400 7/24/00, Anonymous wrote:
>Bill Stewart wrote:
>
> > And US public schools can ban funny-colored hair,
>
>Has this actually happened?
Many times. Many places. Dress codes.
--Tim May
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> You say you received it, which list node are you subscribed to? Did
> anyone else receive it?
I did, about 10 copies. I am subscribed to openpgp.net.
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 12:10:17PM -0400, Robert Guerra wrote:
> I guess this confirms the info Mike Shaver mentioned the June Toronto
> Cypherpunks meeting.
>
> now with part of the code "out"...i'd like to hear what people have to say
> (good & bad) about it.
Hard to believe it takes an open
Jim Choate wrote:
> Yes. There is a school district north of Texas which has succesfully
> thrown a kid out for wearing a shirt with 'Fuck' on it.
That was not my question. Obviously most if not all public schools impose
"dress codes" upon their wards.
Hair seems something of a different matte
At 10:13 AM 24/07/00 -0700, David Honig wrote:
>At 06:03 AM 7/24/00 -1000, Reese wrote:
>>At 11:20 AM 24/07/00 -0400, David Honig wrote:
>> >At 12:42 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Reese wrote:
>> >> >>Japan may not have the US constitution, but their current constitution
>> >> >>was written by the US gov
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