RE: serial ports

2006-04-21 Thread David Christensen
Oliver Vecernik wrote > I'd like to use the serial port from perl on my notebook. Try the Win32::SerialPort Perl module: http://members.aol.com/Bbirthisel/SerialPort.html I used it in the past and it worked great, but I had to use ActiveState Perl rather than Cygwin Perl. HTH, David --

ntsec

2006-04-21 Thread Robert Thomas beau Hayes Link
Greetings, I've poked around in the faqs and other docs but have not been able to solve my proble, which is that for the first time in serveral cygwin installs I a not able to chmod 755 any of my files. I believe this is an ntsec issue, but just haven't been able to get my head around exactly wh

Re: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Jay Abel
I'm sorry, I can't tell if the problem you have below is with connecting to the file to be printed or to the printer itself. What follows is a workaround for getting to the printer if windows or cygwin complain about the printer share name. In my case, the printer is on the network, and I use

Re: Cygwin increasing windows timer resolution

2006-04-21 Thread Brian Ford
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Steven Hartland wrote: > It appears that cygwin is increasing the timer > resolution on windows. Does anyone know the reason > behind this as it does have a significant impact > on the cpu usage of applications. IIRC, current versions no longer do. By current, I don't rememb

Makewhatis problem in Man 1.5p-1

2006-04-21 Thread Bruce Jones
Version info: Windows XP Pro SP1 CYGWIN_NT-5.1 1.5.19(0.150/4/2) 2006-01-20 13:28 Man 1.5p-1 The makewhatis shell script generates an error message when $PWD contains a space, e.g. "/cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/username" The message is: /usr/sbin/makewhatis: line 380: cd: /cygdrive/c/Docu

RE: How to prevent duplicate cron jobs?

2006-04-21 Thread Jerry D. Hedden
> I have a cron job running perl and it is taking a very long time -- > sometimes over 24 hours. > > How can I have cron schedule my job daily, or even hourly, and have > the perl code exit if a previouse instance of the job is still > running? Use Proc::Daemon in conjunction with Proc::PID::

RE: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Rockefeller, Harry
>I've looked at the trace. Nothing obvious comes to mind, but I did think >of something else: on my machine, running "net use" on the shared printer >helped enable it -- try "net use '\\NTSERVER1\sw-txt1'" and see if that >lets you print. Though the error I was getting before "net use" is >differ

How to prevent duplicate cron jobs?

2006-04-21 Thread siegfried
I apologize if this is sent twice. I sent it once a couple of hours ago and did not see it appear so I am sending it again. I have a cron job running perl and it is taking a very long time -- sometimes over 24 hours. How can I have cron schedule my job daily, or even hourly, and have the perl c

Re: network interface names

2006-04-21 Thread René Berber
Ian wrote: > How does cygwin's eth(whatever) relate to the windows interface names? > > For example, on my laptop, eth0 is tied to my wireless network > connection and eth1 is tied to my wired local area connection. > > I'm developing DHCP software for cygwin, and I need to be able to derive > t

Re: Launch APP over SSH

2006-04-21 Thread René Berber
Wesley Smith wrote: > I don't want to use it, I just want to have it run. Can't I just > launch it? I don't need to interact with it at all. Only if the application allows it, i.e. has a mode that does not need to interact with the window manager, something like "run in the background". Also i

RE: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Igor Peshansky wrote: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Rockefeller, Harry wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Igor Peshansky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:41 PM > > > To: Rockefeller, Harry > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Again,

RE: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Rockefeller, Harry wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Igor Peshansky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:41 PM > > To: Rockefeller, Harry > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Again, . Thanks. > > Subject:

RE: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Rockefeller, Harry
> -Original Message- > From: Igor Peshansky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:41 PM > To: Rockefeller, Harry > Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid > > Ugh, top-posting... Reformatted. > > On Fri, 21 Apr 200

Re: Support for older OS's

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 15:09, Charles Wilson wrote: > Corinna said [in thread entitled "Windows 95 support ?"] > > Just the setup tool has some problem, apparently. Cygwin still runs on 95, > > which will probably change at one point, since it's getting incredibly > > awkward to support it. > > I've a relate

Re: network interface names

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 13:49, Ian wrote: > How does cygwin's eth(whatever) relate to the windows interface names? Grab the Cygwin sources, unpack and have a look into the file winsup/cygwin/net.cc, functions get_2k_ifconf, get_nt_ifconf and get_95_ifconf. It's basically just enumerating as the interfaces come

Re: ITP: rxvt-unicode-X

2006-04-21 Thread Van Sickle, Gary
rg/stable/x11/rxvt-unicode > > > > How about a GTG, anybody? > > > -- > Chuck - Packaging looks good FWICS. - "man urxvt" looks good. - Installed from local disk on this machine with no unusual issues. - This machine is running: CYGWIN_NT-5.1 SICKLG1-D1 1.5.20s(0.1

Re: make $(wildcard) not working with samba shares

2006-04-21 Thread Eric Blake
> I'm having a problem with cygwin make and the $(wildcard) function. I've > attached a Makefile which demonstrates the problem. The gnu make > documentation indicates that the wildcard function should only return files > or directories that exist, but in certain circumstances it is returning >

Re: Launch APP over SSH

2006-04-21 Thread mwoehlke
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU Wesley Smith wrote: I'm trying to run a program called MaxMSP. [snip] Even though I won't be graphically interating with it, I still want to be able to launch it this way. One really cheap way would be to write an app that sits around and waits for a message t

Re: Launch APP over SSH

2006-04-21 Thread Wesley Smith
I don't want to use it, I just want to have it run. Can't I just launch it? I don't need to interact with it at all. wes On 4/21/06, René Berber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wesley Smith wrote: > > > I've been reading previous posts on this topic, but I haven;t been > > able to get cygwin to do

Re: Launch APP over SSH

2006-04-21 Thread René Berber
Wesley Smith wrote: > I've been reading previous posts on this topic, but I haven;t been > able to get cygwin to do what I need. I tried: > > $ cygstart notepad > > from a remote SSH login and nothing happened. > > Then, I tried the same command from the Cygwin shell on that computer > and it

Re: Launch APP over SSH

2006-04-21 Thread Wesley Smith
PS I also get the message WARNING: terminal is not fully functional . How do I get rid of this? thanks, wes -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ:

Re: Launch APP over SSH

2006-04-21 Thread Wesley Smith
So here's the scenario... I'm trying to run a program called MaxMSP. It does all kinds of great things like networking, video processing, audio processing etc. I'm trying to setup a remote machine that captures video from a firewire camera and transmits it over the network to the machine in the

Re: Launch APP over SSH

2006-04-21 Thread mwoehlke
Wesley Smith wrote: I've been reading previous posts on this topic, but I haven;t been able to get cygwin to do what I need. I tried: $ cygstart notepad from a remote SSH login and nothing happened. If you'll pardon a stupid question, why would you want to do such a thing? (Or, "what good w

Launch APP over SSH

2006-04-21 Thread Wesley Smith
Hi, I've been reading previous posts on this topic, but I haven;t been able to get cygwin to do what I need. I tried: $ cygstart notepad from a remote SSH login and nothing happened. Then, I tried the same command from the Cygwin shell on that computer and it worked. How can I get it to work r

Support for older OS's

2006-04-21 Thread Charles Wilson
Corinna said [in thread entitled "Windows 95 support ?"] > Just the setup tool has some problem, apparently. Cygwin still runs on 95, > which will probably change at one point, since it's getting incredibly > awkward to support it. I've a related question: how "pleasant" must the user experience

RE: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Igor Peshansky
Ugh, top-posting... Reformatted. On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Rockefeller, Harry wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Corinna Vinschen > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Thanks. > > Sent: Frida

Re: cp problem w/ snap 04-18 from remote (solved)

2006-04-21 Thread Shaffer, Kenneth
> The inode numbers of both files are identical. But in theory, cp should > only see both files as the same, if the inode numbers as well as the > device numbers are identical. You seem to suffer from a very seldom > situation, that the volume serial numbers (which are used as device > numbers)

Re: Cygwin and Interix interoperability?

2006-04-21 Thread mwoehlke
Corinna Vinschen wrote: I don't get it. We're using .lnk symlinks for quite some time and open works transparently with them. Sorry; clarification (again): open() in Windows, outside of Cygwin. I.e. if I try to open a path in Notepad that contains a symlink, it doesn't work with Cygwin's .ln

make $(wildcard) not working with samba shares

2006-04-21 Thread Ken Cecka
Hi All, I'm having a problem with cygwin make and the $(wildcard) function. I've attached a Makefile which demonstrates the problem. The gnu make documentation indicates that the wildcard function should only return files or directories that exist, but in certain circumstances it is returning pa

Redirecting bash stdin

2006-04-21 Thread Dave
I'm trying to get a mingw GUI application to pipe commands to cygwins bash by redirecting its stdin as described here . This nearly works. 1. Start app. 2. Spawn bash with redirected stdin. bash process visible in process explorer. 3. Send command1 to

network interface names

2006-04-21 Thread Ian
How does cygwin's eth(whatever) relate to the windows interface names? For example, on my laptop, eth0 is tied to my wireless network connection and eth1 is tied to my wired local area connection. I'm developing DHCP software for cygwin, and I need to be able to derive the cygwin network inte

RE: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Rockefeller, Harry
I erased much of the previous email. Here is the context: $ lpq -Sntserver1 -Psw-txt1 Windows 2000 LPD Server Printer \\192.83.227.33\sw-txt1 Owner Status Jobname Job-IdSize Pages Priority ---

Re: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 12:02, Rockefeller, Harry wrote: > I can open and view the security tab on the properties section > of the Windows share. > > I created a desktop shortcut to the printer and searched all > files for *servername.lnk but only the desktop link shows up. > I interpret this to mean that Cygwi

Re: Cygwin and Interix interoperability?

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 11:38, mwoehlke wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >They are not understood by Windows, and that's documented. They are > >just translated into the file type they are pointing to by the NFS > >client and then presented as file or directory to Windows clients. > > Sorry for the confusion

Re: perl reading ^M on text mounts

2006-04-21 Thread Dave
Have you tried setting the environment variable PERLIO? I'm not a heavy PERL user, but I tend to have PERLIO=crlf if I'm likely to see CRLFs. Dave. Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-IOM1 wrote: Considering the usual speed of answers in this group and the persistent silence on this one may I ask again?

RE: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid

2006-04-21 Thread Rockefeller, Harry
> -Original Message- > From: Igor Peshansky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:22 PM > To: Rockefeller, Harry > Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Can't print because .lnk makes printer name invalid > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Rockefeller, Harry wrote: > > > I

Re: Cygwin and Interix interoperability?

2006-04-21 Thread mwoehlke
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Apr 20 16:42, mwoehlke wrote: True; it might require linking against Interix (yuck), which is only feasible with SUA 5.2. There is nevertheless a very real chance that I I don't think that's feasible for Cygwin, though. Interix is not just a Win32 DLL as Cygwin, it'

Re: cp problem w/ snap 04-18 from remote

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 20 17:01, Shaffer, Kenneth wrote: > I get > > cp: `//svtreboot3/logs/customer_logs.cfg' and `./customer_logs.cfg' are > the same file > [...] >91 47307 [main] cp 424 stat_worker: > (//svtreboot3/logs/customer_logs.cfg, 0x22EB10, 0, 0x61161E2C), > file_attributes 32 >96 47403 [

Re: perl reading ^M on text mounts

2006-04-21 Thread Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-IOM1
Considering the usual speed of answers in this group and the persistent silence on this one may I ask again? Perl doesn't seem to deal well with CRLF text files as demonstrated below. Is that a known problem, any fix coming or am I missing something? Thanks for any insight, Michael Lemke, Mi

RE: cp problem w/ snap 04-18 from remote

2006-04-21 Thread Shaffer, Kenneth
> I get > > cp: `//svtreboot3/logs/customer_logs.cfg' and `./customer_logs.cfg' are the same file > > when copying from a remote to a local machine. > > strace output is in attached file cp_problem.txt, and I've also attached the cygcheck -svr output in the .out > file. I forgot to mention that .

Please don't cross-post between cygwin-talk and cygwin (was Re: Pageheap.exe)

2006-04-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:23:58AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 05:42:53PM -0500, Tom Rodman wrote: >>not sure if this is a new tool..: >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;286470 > >Whether it is or not, cygwin doesn't directly use the Window

Re: Pageheap.exe

2006-04-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 05:42:53PM -0500, Tom Rodman wrote: >not sure if this is a new tool..: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;286470 Whether it is or not, cygwin doesn't directly use the Windows heap so I doubt that it would be useful for debugging cygwin apps. cgf

Re: useradd & user ids

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 11:11, Igor Peshansky wrote: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > On Apr 21 01:15, Igor Peshansky wrote: > > > Besides, the default mapping is to take the last 4 digits of the SID > > > for the UID for local users, and 1 + the last 4 digits of the SID > > > for domain

Re: useradd & user ids

2006-04-21 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 21 01:15, Igor Peshansky wrote: > > Besides, the default mapping is to take the last 4 digits of the SID > > for the UID for local users, and 1 + the last 4 digits of the SID > > for domain users, > > Nope, it takes the complete RID as uid

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 16:58, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Lars Munch, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 16:48:31 +0200, a écrit : > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 04:32:37PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > That's a problem with the code you're working on. If it relies on the > > > fact that int32_t resp. uint32_t are typedef'ed

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lars Munch, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 16:48:31 +0200, a écrit : > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 04:32:37PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Apr 21 14:11, Lars Munch wrote: > > > My code still gives me warnings due to a problem with stdint.h. > > > > > > The Xint32_t typedef's uses long instead of int: > >

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Lars Munch
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 04:32:37PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 21 14:11, Lars Munch wrote: > > My code still gives me warnings due to a problem with stdint.h. > > > > The Xint32_t typedef's uses long instead of int: > > > > >From stdint.h: > > > > typedef long int32_t; > > typedef un

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 14:11, Lars Munch wrote: > My code still gives me warnings due to a problem with stdint.h. > > The Xint32_t typedef's uses long instead of int: > > >From stdint.h: > > typedef long int32_t; > typedef unsigned long uint32_t; > > I think they should be: > > typedef int int32_t; > typed

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 15:02, Lars Munch wrote: > You missed one. See attachment. Thanks, applied. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscr

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Lars Munch
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 02:49:08PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hi, > > Lars Munch, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 14:27:40 +0200, a écrit : > > > That's on purpose: on windows, ints are 16bits. > > > > How can that be when sizeof(int) returns 4 with cygwin gcc on a 32bit > > windows? > > That depends on

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Lars Munch
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:00:00PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 21 11:25, Lars Munch wrote: > > Hello > > > > I have noticed that the types of the functions htonl, htons, ntohs and > > ntohl differs from standard (and linux): > > > > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/95399/functi

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Lars Munch, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 14:27:40 +0200, a écrit : > > That's on purpose: on windows, ints are 16bits. > > How can that be when sizeof(int) returns 4 with cygwin gcc on a 32bit > windows? That depends on the compiler. Regards, Samuel -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#un

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Lars Munch
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 02:17:13PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Lars Munch, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 14:11:51 +0200, a écrit : > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:00:00PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > On Apr 21 11:25, Lars Munch wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > I have noticed that the types of

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lars Munch, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 14:11:51 +0200, a écrit : > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:00:00PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Apr 21 11:25, Lars Munch wrote: > > > Hello > > > > > > I have noticed that the types of the functions htonl, htons, ntohs and > > > ntohl differs from standard (and

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Lars Munch
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:00:00PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 21 11:25, Lars Munch wrote: > > Hello > > > > I have noticed that the types of the functions htonl, htons, ntohs and > > ntohl differs from standard (and linux): > > > > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/95399/functi

Re: Windows 95 support ?

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 12:59, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Chris January, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 11:56:23 +0100, a écrit : > > On 21/04/06, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Chris January, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 08:51:07 +0100, a écrit : > > > > On 20/04/06, Christopher Faylor > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at

Re: Windows 95 support ?

2006-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chris January, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 11:56:23 +0100, a écrit : > On 21/04/06, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Chris January, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 08:51:07 +0100, a écrit : > > > On 20/04/06, Christopher Faylor > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:42:14PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > >I

Re: Windows 95 support ?

2006-04-21 Thread Chris January
On 21/04/06, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Chris January, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 08:51:07 +0100, a écrit : > > On 20/04/06, Christopher Faylor > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:42:14PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > >I tried to install cygwin on win95 this afternoon, but setup.exe can't > >

Re: Windows 95 support ?

2006-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chris January, le Fri 21 Apr 2006 08:51:07 +0100, a écrit : > On 20/04/06, Christopher Faylor > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:42:14PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > >I tried to install cygwin on win95 this afternoon, but setup.exe can't > > >start, because it is linked with MSVCRT.DLL,

Re: htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 11:25, Lars Munch wrote: > Hello > > I have noticed that the types of the functions htonl, htons, ntohs and > ntohl differs from standard (and linux): > > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/95399/functions/htonl.html > > Cygwin uses: > > unsigned long intntohl(unsigned lo

Re: useradd & user ids

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 01:15, Igor Peshansky wrote: > Besides, the default mapping is to take the last 4 digits of the SID for > the UID for local users, and 1 + the last 4 digits of the SID for > domain users, Nope, it takes the complete RID as uid or gid, even if it's > . Corinna -- Corinna Vinsc

Re: Cygwin and Interix interoperability?

2006-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 20 16:42, mwoehlke wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >We're already having two different symlink types, one of them U/Win > >compatible. I'm, too, not really interested in adding another one(*), > >especially when there's no documentation and, TTBOMK, no Win32 API. > > True; it might requ

htonl, htons, ntohl and ntohs types

2006-04-21 Thread Lars Munch
Hello I have noticed that the types of the functions htonl, htons, ntohs and ntohl differs from standard (and linux): http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/95399/functions/htonl.html Cygwin uses: unsigned long intntohl(unsigned long int); unsigned short int ntohs(unsigned short

Re: Windows 95 support ?

2006-04-21 Thread Chris January
On 20/04/06, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:42:14PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >I tried to install cygwin on win95 this afternoon, but setup.exe can't > >start, because it is linked with MSVCRT.DLL, which is not available > >under windows 95. > > MSVCRT.DLL or its vari

Using CTRL-C

2006-04-21 Thread Angelo Graziosi
I do not know if the following is the correct behaviour. I observe this: click on Cygwin.bat (i.e. the bash shell in DOS window) $ startx & (i.e. starting XWin and xterm) Now if I start something in xterm, e.g. 'tar -xzvf foo.tar.gz', and in bash shell (Cygwin.bat) some othe