Re: [Computer-go] sgf file for recent handicap games of pros vs programs

2018-01-23 Thread David Ongaro
And as Hideko Kato already mentioned yesterday, you've to do some sanitation after extraction. E.g. with sed -i 's/KM\[\(.\)50/CA[utf-8]KM[\1.50/' *.sgf (assuming GNU sed here, but should work similarly with BSD sed in Mac OS) Am 01/23/2018 um 01:58 PM schrieb David Ongaro: > It's a zip file: >

Re: [Computer-go] sgf file for recent handicap games of pros vs programs

2018-01-22 Thread David Ongaro
It's a zip file: david@belle:~/Downloads$ file FineArt_A-2hcp.sgf FineArt_A-2hcp.sgf: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract Am 01/23/2018 um 12:52 PM schrieb Ray Tayek: > is anyone collecting the sgf file for these games? > > i get the stuff below when i try to download. > > thanks > > > C:

Re: [Computer-go] sgf file for recent handicap games of pros vs programs

2018-01-22 Thread Xavier Combelle
Tygem files are not sgf but gib:here dome convertor https://senseis.xmp.net/?GIB Le 23 janv. 2018 06:21, "Ray Tayek" a écrit : > is anyone collecting the sgf file for these games? > > i get the stuff below when i try to download. > > thanks > > > C:\Users\ray\Downloads>od -c FineArt_A-2hcp.sgf |

[Computer-go] sgf file for recent handicap games of pros vs programs

2018-01-22 Thread Ray Tayek
is anyone collecting the sgf file for these games? i get the stuff below when i try to download. thanks C:\Users\ray\Downloads>od -c FineArt_A-2hcp.sgf | head 000   P   K 003 004 024  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0   < 005   5 L  \0  \0 020  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0 017  \0  \0  \0 F

Re: [Computer-go] sgf files for world go championship games?

2017-03-24 Thread Ray Tayek
On 3/24/2017 9:55 AM, Ray Tayek wrote: any one got a pointer to these? ... thanks for all the links! -- Honesty is a very expensive gift. So, don't expect it from cheap people - Warren Buffett http://tayek.com/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Compute

Re: [Computer-go] sgf files for world go championship games?

2017-03-24 Thread Sorin Gherman
SGFs here: http://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=14117&hilit=World On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Ray Tayek wrote: > any one got a pointer to these? > > thanks > > > -- > Honesty is a very expensive gift. So, don't expect it from cheap people - > Warren Buffett > http://tayek.com/ > >

Re: [Computer-go] sgf files for world go championship games?

2017-03-24 Thread Michael Alford
I just checked, they are also here: http://www.worldgochampionship.net/english/ On 3/24/17 9:55 AM, Ray Tayek wrote: any one got a pointer to these? thanks ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman

Re: [Computer-go] sgf files for world go championship games?

2017-03-24 Thread Michael Alford
All the games are still available at WBaduk On 3/24/17 9:55 AM, Ray Tayek wrote: any one got a pointer to these? thanks ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] sgf files for world go championship games?

2017-03-24 Thread Marc Landgraf
if you have an account at go4go, you can view them there, e.g. the Zen games are here: http://www.go4go.net/go/games/byplayer/1776 2017-03-24 17:55 GMT+01:00 Ray Tayek : > any one got a pointer to these? > > thanks > > > -- > Honesty is a very expensive gift. So, don't expect it from cheap people

[Computer-go] sgf files for world go championship games?

2017-03-24 Thread Ray Tayek
any one got a pointer to these? thanks -- Honesty is a very expensive gift. So, don't expect it from cheap people - Warren Buffett http://tayek.com/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/co

Re: [Computer-go] SGF

2017-01-05 Thread Andries E. Brouwer
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 01:28:34PM -0700, Anders Kierulf wrote: >> It would be good if your document would clearly state which properties >> are part of the FF[4] standard and which ones you’re adding. >> For example, JD (Japanese Date) is not in FF[4], yet is listed as >> “standardized in this do

Re: [Computer-go] SGF

2017-01-02 Thread Andries E. Brouwer
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 11:42:30AM -0800, David Fotland wrote: > I think the character set property just refers to the contents > of comments and similar fields. The sgf format itself is entirely > in the common characters in UTF-8 and US-ASCII. > There is no need to assume a character set before

Re: [Computer-go] SGF

2017-01-02 Thread David Fotland
node, it should apply to a root comment, even if it comes earlier in the properties in the root node. From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Clark B. Wierda Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:35 AM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] SGF

Re: [Computer-go] SGF

2017-01-02 Thread Clark B. Wierda
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Dave Dyer wrote: > > Character encoding (usually UTF8 these days) ought not to be part of > the standard, it ought to be up to the containing file to describe the > encoding at that level.Likewise, nothing in the standard ought to > require support for particu

Re: [Computer-go] SGF

2017-01-01 Thread Andries E. Brouwer
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 01:28:34PM -0700, Anders Kierulf wrote: > It would be good if your document would clearly state which properties > are part of the FF[4] standard and which ones you’re adding. > For example, JD (Japanese Date) is not in FF[4], yet is listed as > “standardized in this docume

Re: [Computer-go] SGF

2016-12-30 Thread Dave Dyer
Character encoding (usually UTF8 these days) ought not to be part of the standard, it ought to be up to the containing file to describe the encoding at that level.Likewise, nothing in the standard ought to require support for particular character sets. Rather, if a sgf record contains an uns

Re: [Computer-go] SGF

2016-12-30 Thread Anders Kierulf
Thanks for documenting current usage, Andries. It helps to know which properties are being used and how. However, your focus on games gives a skewed picture of many properties that are crucial to SGF. Also, replacing prescriptions with recommendations is not the right direction: If we’re trying

[Computer-go] SGF

2016-12-30 Thread Andries E. Brouwer
The SGF format is wildly successful. It is virtually the unique format in the West, and one of the major formats in the East. However, there is no precise definition of the format. In particular, FF[4] is not precise and where it is precise it is too strict to follow. One troublesome area is that

Re: [Computer-go] sgf reader/editor/write in java?

2015-03-11 Thread Ray Tayek
On 3/11/2015 6:40 PM, Dave Dyer wrote: Read and Write is easy, I have some classes I use for all my games that I've distributed several times. please send me a copy. can it read that big joseki dictionary? Edit implies a full gui, which is a little more complicated. I have a fairly primitiv

Re: [Computer-go] sgf reader/editor/write in java?

2015-03-11 Thread Dave Dyer
Read and Write is easy, I have some classes I use for all my games that I've distributed several times. Edit implies a full gui, which is a little more complicated. I have a fairly primitive board widget I've distributed in the past. If your goal is a fully featured go gui, with replay and revi

[Computer-go] sgf reader/editor/write in java?

2015-03-11 Thread Ray Tayek
hi, i need a java program that lets me read, write and edit an sgf file. thanks -- Honesty is a very expensive gift. So, don't expect it from cheap people - Warren Buffet http://tayek.com/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org h

Re: [computer-go] sgf format for non-quadratic board sizes ?

2008-09-19 Thread Urban Hafner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ingo Althöfer wrote: > Hello, > > does there exist a generalisation of the sgf-format > for rectangular board sizes? What exactly do you mean by generalization? You can use SZ[1] to define the size of your rectangular board. And then your are done, a

[computer-go] sgf format for non-quadratic board sizes ?

2008-09-19 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hello, does there exist a generalisation of the sgf-format for rectangular board sizes? The background of my question is that I would like to try how MCTS works on small boards, and there are not so many quadratically ones... (For instance, I am eager to see what happens on 7x5-board.) By the wa

Re: [computer-go] sgf standard

2008-08-04 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Ray Tayek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 01:58 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: >> >> ... had a burst of activity >> related to the addition of new properties to the standard. >> >> The properties relate to the representation of common subtrees. > > i just dusted off an old

Re: [computer-go] sgf standard

2008-08-03 Thread Ray Tayek
At 01:58 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: ... had a burst of activity related to the addition of new properties to the standard. The properties relate to the representation of common subtrees. i just dusted off an old sgf parser/merger in java. i can eat the example file ok. where are the new prope

[computer-go] sgf standard

2008-07-29 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Hello This is just a quick email to let you all know that the very low volume sgf-std mailing list has recently had a burst of activity related to the addition of new properties to the standard. The properties relate to the representation of common subtrees. If you externalise your search trees t

Re: [computer-go] SGF naming convention.

2007-11-01 Thread Jason House
On 11/1/07, Joshua Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aye, saw some mentioning of it during the XML/sgf thread... That's exactly it. So SGF starts and top left corner and skips I as well? Little > confusing but a little code can always remap it.. Thanks :) SGF does not skip "i". ___

Re: [computer-go] SGF naming convention.

2007-11-01 Thread Joshua Shriver
Aye, saw some mentioning of it during the XML/sgf thread... So SGF starts and top left corner and skips I as well? Little confusing but a little code can always remap it.. Thanks :) -Josh On 11/1/07, Jason House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This craziness was subject of some long threads recent

Re: [computer-go] SGF naming convention.

2007-11-01 Thread Jason House
This craziness was subject of some long threads recently. a1 notation starts in the lower left and skips "i". pd notation starts in the upper left. On 11/1/07, Joshua Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm writing a SGF parse and was wondering, the moves are listed as > [pd] [dd], instead of

Re: [computer-go] SGF naming convention.

2007-11-01 Thread David Doshay
no. a1 and aa are in different corners. Cheers, David On 1, Nov 2007, at 8:02 AM, Joshua Shriver wrote: I'm writing a SGF parse and was wondering, the moves are listed as [pd] [dd], instead of a1 m10. Does the letters correspond to the number equivalent, taking into account you skip I? So

[computer-go] SGF naming convention.

2007-11-01 Thread Joshua Shriver
I'm writing a SGF parse and was wondering, the moves are listed as [pd] [dd], instead of a1 m10. Does the letters correspond to the number equivalent, taking into account you skip I? So I = 9 or J=9? -Josh ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@compu

Re: [computer-go] SGF Viewer for Linux

2007-10-27 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
2007/10/28, Joshua Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Anyone recommend a free SGF viewer for Linux? I'd really like to find > something like SCID but for Go. I use qGo and Kombilo. -- Seo Sanghyeon ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [computer-go] SGF Viewer for Linux

2007-10-27 Thread Adrian Petrescu
Since you mention SCID, I assume you are looking for something with databasing features as well, instead of just a plain SGF editor. If all you want is just plain SGF editing, glGo, qGo, CGoban3 are all great on Linux. As for databasing apps, you can check out the still-relatively-new-and-under-de

[computer-go] SGF Viewer for Linux

2007-10-27 Thread Joshua Shriver
Anyone recommend a free SGF viewer for Linux? I'd really like to find something like SCID but for Go. -Josh ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

[computer-go] SGF Utility

2007-10-25 Thread Phil Garcia
Hi! I put together a small utility that converts coordinate encodings in SGF files to/from the official SGF specification and normal Go board coordinates and optionally format the file to be easier to read. One of the cool uses is to convert a SGF file to standard Go board coordinates, make c

Re: [computer-go] SGF format specification

2007-10-15 Thread David Doshay
We faced this when saving each of the SlugGo lookahead paths, one from each CPU. Getting the parens to all match up is critical. Cheers, David On 15, Oct 2007, at 7:13 AM, Jason House wrote: Is the text at http://www.red-bean.com/sgf/sgf4.html#ebnf-def correct? It seems to me that Game

[computer-go] SGF format specification

2007-10-15 Thread Jason House
Is the text at http://www.red-bean.com/sgf/sgf4.html#ebnf-def correct? It seems to me that GameTree = "(" Sequence { GameTree } ")" Is rather restrictive and should possibly be GameTree = "(" Sequence { GameTree } [Sequence] ")" Without a change like that, doing a local variation requires

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-12 Thread Ray Tayek
At 08:49 AM 7/9/2007, you wrote: ... Any help is appreciated, trying to write a parse in C you might try some of the people on the mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- vice-chair http://ocjug.org/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-11 Thread Phil G
> On this note, does anyone know of a collection of strange/unusual SGF > files to test a parser against? I have a SGF parser written in javacc > (think object oriented lex and yacc, outputting pure java) and while > it seems fast I've not really tested it much against corner cases. > > stuart I

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-10 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On 7/10/07, Jacques Basaldúa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Joshua Shriver wrote: >Any help is appreciated, trying to write a parse in C There is free source code for that: http://www.red-bean.com/sgf/sgfc/index.html and GnuGo http://www.gnu.org/software/gnugo/ If you want to do something minima

[computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-10 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Joshua Shriver wrote: Any help is appreciated, trying to write a parse in C There is free source code for that: http://www.red-bean.com/sgf/sgfc/index.html and GnuGo http://www.gnu.org/software/gnugo/ If you want to do something minimal for testing an engine, you only have to find: board si

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread David Doshay
Yes, without variations SGF is not hard. Unfortunately, doing it right when you want to look at lots of variations at each move is quite tricky. We need to do this to inspect what SlugGo is considering on each of the many CPUs we are using, and every now and again we need to revisit this code. Ch

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread Jason House
On 7/9/07, Phil G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HouseBot (C++) http://housebot.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page More precisely, the HouseBot SGF code is available at http://housebot.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/housebot/branches/0.5/housebot/src/sgf/ It's freely available under the GPL v2 lic

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread Phil G
o as viewers. Phil - Original Message From: Joshua Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: computer-go Sent: Monday, July 9, 2007 8:49:48 AM Subject: [computer-go] SGF parsing Besides the original specification at http://www.red-bean.com/sgf/ anyone recommend an easier to read and go specific docum

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread Unknown
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 12:46 -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote: > Ok found some KGS games, and they make a lot more sense. With the > specification I can see what all of the OT, AP, TM, FF, etc commads > are. However I don't understand the way it sets the location, so far > nothing I've seen describes it.

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread alain Baeckeroot
Le lundi 9 juillet 2007 18:46, Joshua Shriver a écrit : > Ok found some KGS games, and they make a lot more sense. With the > specification I can see what all of the OT, AP, TM, FF, etc commads > are. However I don't understand the way it sets the location, so far > nothing I've seen describes it.

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread Don Dailey
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 12:27 -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote: > Do you have a good example of a regular Go game in sgf? You can download examples from CGOS. Nothing fancy, just simple game results. An here is an example of a pgn go file that my old autotester produces: [Event "Autotest Sequence"] [

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread Joshua Shriver
Ok found some KGS games, and they make a lot more sense. With the specification I can see what all of the OT, AP, TM, FF, etc commads are. However I don't understand the way it sets the location, so far nothing I've seen describes it. ;B[kr] for example. I thought Go boards used A..x 1..y notati

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread Don Dailey
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 11:49 -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote: > I really like the pgn format, just viewing it you can get a feel for > what is going on. I tried to figure out the SGF format by looking at > it, and have no clue what's going on. SGF has a real grammer associated with it and is technical

Re: [computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread Joshua Shriver
Do you have a good example of a regular Go game in sgf? A lot of the examples I found on the SGF spec site seem confusing, and not sure if they're even for Go or backgammon, etc. Also is there a command line go conversion program kinda like pgnextract that lets you modify sgf datasets. Like strip

[computer-go] SGF parsing

2007-07-09 Thread Joshua Shriver
Besides the original specification at http://www.red-bean.com/sgf/ anyone recommend an easier to read and go specific document for parsing sgf files? I really like the pgn format, just viewing it you can get a feel for what is going on. I tried to figure out the SGF format by looking at it, and h

RE: [computer-go] SGF-Questions

2007-04-10 Thread Anders Kierulf
>> Chrilly wrote: >> c) if one setup-ups a position and there is no KO-Point. >>Is it necessary to specifiy a non-existing KO-Point >>(e.g. as KO[tt] or KO[] ) or has one to setup the KO >>only if there is a "real" KO-Point. > > Anders replied: > Only add the KO property if there's a fo

Re: [computer-go] SGF-Questions

2007-04-10 Thread Chrilly
- Original Message - From: "Anders Kierulf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'computer-go'" Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: RE: [computer-go] SGF-Questions a) If one setups a position. Is there a property for the number of white and bla

Re: [computer-go] SGF-Questions

2007-04-10 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
2007/4/10, Chrilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: a) If one setups a position. Is there a property for the number of white and black captured stones so far. I don't think so. Though KM can be used to adjust the score. b) There is the property AE. The list of empty points. Is it necessary to setup also

RE: [computer-go] SGF-Questions

2007-04-10 Thread Anders Kierulf
> a) If one setups a position. Is there a property for the >number of white and black captured stones so far. No. (If you use Chinese scoring, that doesn't matter.) > b) There is the property AE. The list of empty points. >Is it necessary to setup also the empty points or is >it suffi

[computer-go] SGF-Questions

2007-04-10 Thread Chrilly
a) If one setups a position. Is there a property for the number of white and black captured stones so far. b) There is the property AE. The list of empty points. Is it necessary to setup also the empty points or is it sufficient to setup only the the black and white stones with AB and AW? c) if