Stus-List Bermuda1-2 lessons learned

2015-10-27 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi All, As I mentioned last spring as part of a question about life rafts, I had planned to sail my C&C33-1 solo to Bermuda and back (double handed) in the Bermuda1-2 race. I did, It was fun, it was terrifying, it was expensive to prepare for, and it was frustrating as I did not do well (dfl)

Re: Stus-List Bermuda1-2 lessons learned

2015-10-27 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
> > Answers for Patrick: > > > 3) > Is the exhaust hose looped up? Yes but not enough. Usually there is a > flapper valve on the exhaust but the reverse transom angle and the angled > cut of the exhaust make commercial ones unusable. > > 4) Does your fuel tank vent line not have a check valve in

Re: Stus-List Bermuda1-2 lessons learned

2015-10-27 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
gt; weather. > > Invest in an asym for a carbon spin pole. Asym is useless if more than > 140 degrees off the wind. > > Wish I could answer the hard questions! How did someone get a below deck > pilot in in the first place? > > Joel > 35/3 > Annapolis > > On

Re: Stus-List Bermuda1-2 lessons learned

2015-10-27 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
a bit inconvenient to get to. > > For (4) I recall a diagram of routing the vent through the base of a > stantion with some added venting high in that tubing. Complicates the > stantion base support. Not sure if that venting path is standards-compliant > but interesting. > > Ed &g

Re: Stus-List Bermuda1-2 lessons learned

2015-10-27 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
gt; Martin DeYoung > > Calypso > > 1971 C&C 43 > > Seattle > > > [image: Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David > Paine via CnC-List > *Sent:*

Re: Stus-List Bermuda1-2 lessons learned

2015-10-27 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
27;d be concerned about forgetting to open the seacock or ball valve. > > Mark > > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > - George Santayana > > On 2015-10-27 3:50 PM, David Paine via CnC-List wrote: > > Hi All, > > As I mentioned las

Re: Stus-List Bermuda1-2 lessons learned

2015-10-28 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Thanks David! On the topic of Solent stays, I think I have two options. (1) A true removable Solent supported at the top of the mast by the backstay and at the deck near the bow fitting or (2) possibly, a staysail stay supported at the spreaders (one set) by the aft lowers and at the midforedec

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Ox Meets Practical Sailor

2015-11-17 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Coincidently, the Practical Sailor test C&C 33 -1 that Bob mentions is my boat. Just about everything they wrote about doing 25 years ago has been redone. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:44 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > That would be great, although PS had a 33-1 as a

Re: Stus-List Barient 28ST on EBay

2016-01-25 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
wow, $800 each seems steep. I bought a set of two Barrient two speed self tailing model 21-33 winches (plus a complete helm) that came off a wrecked person 33 for $300. BTW, I know I have the model number because it's inscribed on the top of the winch but I can't find the service manual anywhe

Re: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for A&H small hatches?

2015-03-25 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Patrick, What you want is: http://www.mcmaster.com/#foam-cords/=wgxej0 I just bought 1/2" cord for my A&H foredeck hatch. My friend has A&H side ports on his Alberg and he bought the 3/8" cord to fit into the groove. David On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List < cnc-list

Re: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for A&H small hatches?

2015-03-25 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
EDPM smooth surface cord: http://www.mcmaster.com/#foam-cords/=wgxi0l On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:01 PM, David Paine wrote: > Patrick, > > What you want is: http://www.mcmaster.com/#foam-cords/=wgxej0 > > I just bought 1/2" cord for my A&H foredeck hatch. My friend has A&H side > ports on his

Re: Stus-List lf38 hatch seals

2015-03-26 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
But, if you go to the McMaster site via the link scroll down to the EDPM cord which is an exact replacement and not the other stuff listed on that page. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Here's the stuff. Seems the galley and head hatches

Stus-List C&C 33 - I aft lowers

2015-05-05 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi All, C&C 33 - 1 with two sets of lowers: forward and aft. They attach at two attachment points on the mast, one slightly higher than the other and both just below the spreaders. Do the forward lowers attach at the highest point or the one 2 inches lower? Thanks! David _

Stus-List Lazy Jacks

2015-05-05 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
I am planning to install lazy jacks on my C&C 33-1. Something simple with rings instead of blocks. The two top most lines attach ... where? I'm aiming for half way between the spreaders and the top of the mast. How long should the top piece be (ie where does the first split occur? Appreciate an

Re: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1

2014-11-12 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
In my 1975 C&C 33-1, I was able (many years ago) to get my daughter (when she was 11) to squeeze into that space (twice) once to remove the old exhaust and again to put a new one back on. We did this by removing the engine control panel and both screw-on access ports to reduce claustrophobia. I

Stus-List C&C 33-I Spreaders?

2014-12-03 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi All, I just took my mast down (original mast on a 1975 C&C 33) for some work and was horrified to find that one of my spreaders is cracked in a not-good way. Ideally, I'd like to replace it -- does anyone know where such a part could be found? It's an airfoil shaped section that tapers toward

Re: Stus-List C&C 33-I Spreaders?

2014-12-04 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Thanks, I'll give Klacko a try! Then, if they don't have it or if the cost is insane, I'll try to fix it. For the record (and because someone asked), the crack is really more like a split along the leading edge. Welding or reinforcement might be possible. Thanks all, David On Thu, Dec 4, 201

Stus-List Life rafts

2015-01-08 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi All, Here's a cold day topic ... I am aiming to compete in the 2015 Bermuda 1-2 race in my vintage C&C 33-1. (my boat won't be the only old C&C). My pretentions are modest -- think Eddie the Eagle rather than Moitessier, but I have sailed to Bermuda and back several times and I have done the

Re: Stus-List Life rafts

2015-01-08 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
n Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:38 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > I'll jump on that offer! You may want to check the cost of re certifying > a Winslow 6 man offshore before offering! Feel free to contact me off > list. I'm in NJ > >

Stus-List Cunningham

2015-01-25 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi All, I'm buying a new mainsail and I am going to ask a ridiculous-sounding question. Do you have a Cunningham grommet in your mainsail? I do not in my current sail but that is because Hood made the sail with a jack line (or lace line) which serves the purpose. My new sail definitely won't

Stus-List reefing line

2015-02-24 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Quick question for the List: I've had "my" sail maker put three reefs into my mainsail (C&C33-I). Most of the time I sail with the reef-line not run through the clew grommets. For an upcoming sailing adventure, I will need to have all three reefs rigged and ready to go. What line should I use?

Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 C&C30 MK1

2015-02-24 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Great points, I'm in the middle of doing the same refab job: My questions are: (1) 0.5 " diameter circular cross-section neoprene gasket (for the hatch seal onto frame) but what harness neoprene? (2) Does anyone know where to get a replacement aluminum hatch handle (the round one that allows th

Re: Stus-List Autohelm

2015-03-03 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Burt, I can say that I have a below deck actuator in my C&C33 so in your case (with a tiller) there should be plenty of room. In my case I bolted a below deck tiller and mounted it athwartships just above the quadrant (I have wheel steering). The actuator runs fore-and-aft and is mounted in the

Re: Stus-List Stove

2015-03-06 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi John, I've grown to love (or at least respect) my Hillerange pressure OH stove. The key is to heat the delivery pipe that runs over the top of the burner without setting the boat ablaze. My usual procedure is to open the valve, look for liquid (small amount) in the pan below the burner then c

Stus-List C&C33-1 -- Shift cable attachement at engine stringer

2016-04-14 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi all, I have to replace the shift cable on my C&C33-1 and it is proving to be troublesome. I have the original atomic 4 with the v-drive so the transmission is located in the front. The red jacket 64CC series cable comes from the helm, under the cockpit sole and beneath the engine and attach

Re: Stus-List C&C33-1 -- Shift cable attachement at engine stringer

2016-04-15 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
because I could not find a replacement. >> >> >> >> There is more fun at the other end (cockpit) when it’s time to attach and >> adjust the cable. I disassembled the cable “tubes” from the binnacle to >> accomplish this. >> >> >> Rod Randow >

Re: Stus-List C&C33-1 -- Shift cable attachement at engine stringer

2016-04-15 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Apr 15, 2016 at 7:45 PM, bobmor99 . wrote: > >> Hi David, >> My only (marginally useful) advice is to use a Dremel instead of a >> hacksaw. >> It's really tight down there. >> --Bob M >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 7:26 PM, David Paine via C

Re: Stus-List C&C33-1 -- Shift cable attachement at engine stringer

2016-04-18 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
< cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Wow. I'd love to see some details of that arrangement. > --Bob Moriarty > Ox 33-1 > Jax, FL > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 8:57 PM, David Paine via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Bob, My below decks ardui

Stus-List Below deck autopilot -C&C 33

2016-04-19 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Someone, a while back, asked in another thread how I fit a below decks autopilot in my c&c 33-1. Here is a picture looking back from the starboard cockpit locker showing the Al-tiller arm mounted on the rudder post just above the quadrant. A cable that runs to the cockpit is used to engage the au

Re: Stus-List C&C Mk2 solar panel mounting

2016-05-05 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Nice! On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:10 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I made a solar panel bimini. > It's been tidied and beefed up a bit since the pic was taken. > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0btSA_J8otua091R1dRbDFWMDA > > Bob M > Ox 33-1 > Jax, FL > > On Wed,

Stus-List Wheel Turns

2016-05-23 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
I've been messing with my steering and the placement of the wheel stop on the quadrant. My question is, how many turns (or partial turns) of the wheel past midships does your steering system allow? Thanks, David ___ This list is supported by the gener

Re: Stus-List Wheel Turns

2016-05-23 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Thanks for the info -- my wheel used to do three turns stop to stop but I reconfigured my below decks tiller arm (that sits above the quadrant -- quarter circle) in a way that, unintentionally, will reduce it to 2 turns. I suppose I really should ask what a reasonable maximum rudder angle would b

Re: Stus-List Crack at trailing edge of lower spreader on LF38

2016-06-16 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Bob, I had the same spreader problem (wear from a previous owner not tying off the steel cable halyard). In the end the best solution was to remake the spreaders. Bay sailing equipment, 986 cherry street, Fall River, Frank: 508 678 4419 has the original C&C extrusion and did the work. It

Re: Stus-List Plumbing Related

2016-07-26 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Just for the record, you do not want to be dependent on the head pump to keep your boat afloat as the valves in these things can and do fail. Sea water overflowing the bowl probably means that there is a siphon between the head and the though hull (or worse). Replacing the pump just delays sinki

Re: Stus-List Re-routing cockpit drain lines

2017-08-02 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi Barbara, I have a 33-1 with the same configuration. I don't see any need to change it as It works well for draining small amounts of water. However, when you need to empty the cockpit in a hurry, say when its been filled after being pooped by a breaking wave, you need more drain cross-sectio

Re: Stus-List Big Boat on my property C&C 33 mk1

2017-08-30 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi Joe, Sorry to hear that your project has come to an end. I've been there on other projects! I have, and actively cruise, a C&C 33 mark 1 1975.Is your boat, by chance, diesel powered? If so, I could imagine a scenario where I would be interested in acquiring your boat. Best, David On W

Re: Stus-List Irma 1 : Ox <1

2017-10-05 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi Bob, I'm very sorry to hear that the mighty Ox has fallen! I'm a fellow C&C33-I owner. I hope this isn't too crass, but if you have a bimni for Ox, I would be interested in it. Also, (and this is really a stretch), I have been thinking of rebuilding my rudder. If the boat goes to the dumps

Re: Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

2018-03-23 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi Denis, I went to a window building place and went through their samples of spline and found one that fit perfectly. I then went to Amazon and ordered the shortest roll I could get (100 ft). Here is what I bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G0Y5EA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=

Re: Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

2018-03-23 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
the outside facing side worked then? I assume > the second groove went under the frame and was not visible? > > Dennis C. > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 6:00 AM, David Paine via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hi Denis, >> >> I went to a

Stus-List Tearing out (parts of) the interior (33-i)

2017-01-24 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Someone stop me before I go too far I'd like to rebuild/insulate the ice box on my C&C 33-1 in preparation for the installation of a AB cold machine that I acquired recently. To to insulate properly, I am going to have to pull the ice box cabinet apart and possibly create and install a new,

Re: Stus-List Tearing out (parts of) the interior (33-i)/insulating with expanding foam

2017-01-25 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
s. My buddy with a > sister boat pulled the rails and cut the countertop under the rails to > remove the icebox in order to add insulation. > > Depending on how your icebox is made, I'd think long and hard before > tackling adding insulation. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 3

Stus-List internal rudder structure?

2017-03-23 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
I know that my rudder leaks and, every year I drill a drain hole to empty it. Rusty water comes out. Of course I will do my best to seal the rudder post where it enters the rudder but I am toying with the idea of cutting into my C&C 33-I's rudder to examine the state of the weld that holds the

Re: Stus-List internal rudder structure?

2017-03-23 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Thank very much!That's helpful. I shall study this a bit more but it's approximately what I am planning to do. How did you deal thje rudder stock? On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Patrick Davin wrote: > When the yard did this for me last year, they just used a ~3" hole saw and > aimed for

Re: Stus-List internal rudder structure?

2017-03-24 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
yes, thanks, that's what my garbled text meant! I'm going to with the dig-a-groove around the rudder post/stock and fill it with 5200 approach. Thanks again. On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Davin wrote: > Do you mean what was done around the rudder stock to prevent water > intrusion?

Re: Stus-List Window spline options (CnC 33-1)

2019-09-26 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
I have a 1975 33 - I and I did the following: I went to a window building place and went through their samples of spline and found one that fit perfectly (ie, it closely matched the old spline thickness). I then went to Amazon and ordered the shortest roll I could get (100 ft). Here is what I bo

Stus-List Installing a 3YM30 in a C&C 33-I

2019-11-28 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Does anyone out there in C&C land know of a 33-1 with an installed Yanmar 3YM30? I ask because I am considering repowering my C&C 33-1. I love my atomic 4 but last summer's cruise of over 1000 nm to Cape Breton and beyond (and back) became a logistics challenge due to limited fuel range and stora

Re: Stus-List Cruising guides for Nova Scotia

2020-02-25 Thread David Paine via CnC-List
Hi Mike, Last summer we sailed up to Nova Scotia (from RI) and, when we got there, we used the CCA guide. It seemed adequate for the harbor hopping that we did from Shelburne to St Petes, Bras D'or Lakes.It is bare bones though -- mostly narrative and none of the illustrated charts that are c