In my opinion that traveller over the tiller looks a bit Frankensteiny (;-)
There was a number of C&C 24 that were converted to cockpit traveller (my old
boat including). The traveler goes about 1.5 foot aft of the companionway
entrance (forward of the lazarette openings). That arrangement works
I just reviewed your note below and the article writer’s legal conclusion about
PFBC legal authority (sometimes called “jurisdiction”). For clarification, my
understanding is that the PFBC’s authority to regulate boats extends to
navigable waters of the Commonwealth, while the USCG authority ex
Matt — it’s my understanding that the federal government has sole authority
over the Great Lakes Inland Waterways for purposes of navigation. Are you
saying that’s not the case?
From a US DOJ site which includes parts of the US code:
> Great Lakes Jurisdiction
>
> Also included within the "sp
State and local authorities often patrol the exact same waters as USCG,
enforcing state and local laws. State and Local laws are not permitted
to exceed or countermand Federal laws. Also note that in many places,
the Federal Government has officially ceded control of Federal navigable
waters to
The Father Guido Sarducci lesson on preemption:
1. Federal law trumps state law where they conflict
2. Federal law does not prohibit concurrent state law on the same subject
matter unless
a. Congress says so
b. The rules are in such conflict that both can't co-exist.
Thus, California has
I would think it would be similar to the intra-coastal water way. The US
Coast Guard has authority over the ICW. For example, for various reasons they
will close sections, like just before, during and after major storms. Here in
Florida, our FWC(the boat staties) have the authority to stop an
I'll bet you can count the number of documented vessels in Colorado on one hand
!
Bill
Original message
From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Date: 1/25/18 17:35 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Randy Stafford
Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Ce
(trying to be a good list citizen here and use appropriate subject lines and
trim posts)
Ha ha Bill, you’re probably right :)
Pueblo Reservoir is open year-round and has boats to 40 feet, so there may be
some down there.
So far at Chatfield I haven’t been stopped and boarded by the Park Ranger
Things are coming along with a snag or two. Wouldn’t be a boat otherwise.
Thing one is I cannot get the CP180 to display AIS targets. It is driving me
nuts. It even went back to S-H and that didn’t help. More to come, I got a
diagnostic mode setup from them to try.
The other thing is out of my 3
Fred:
Yes, I’m saying that’s not the case – at least in Pennsylvania.
Without getting into a huge legal discussion about the Supremacy Clause and
federal preemption, there are a lot of subject matters where the Feds and the
State have what they call “concurrent jurisdiction.” I don’t l
Joe,
Glad you are making progress! I keep forgetting to test out my WiFi module
on my AIS. I know it is transmitting, but the app to display AIS is on the
iPad which usually stays in the house. My Navionics app on my phone does
not show AIS.
How old is the antenna cable?
Joel
On Fri, Jan 26,
One additional note, Fred: for certain navigation issues, like the color,
style, and placement of channel markers, there may well be preemption. I doubt
States are free to alter the uniform Federal scheme.
Clear as mud.
From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 9:3
Damn — my “sea-lawyering” has been beaten by a “real” lawyer… :^)
I stand corrected.
— Fred
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Fred:
>
> Yes, I
I normally stand down for such things, but I did not want Bill’s reproduced
article to give everybody a false sense of righteousness when the Fish Cops
show up.
On a related note, there is currently a case working its way through the PA
appellate court system on whether the PA Fish and Boat Com
Matt,
Is someone arguing that the 4th Amendment applies on the water? Don't tell
the CG!
Joel
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I normally stand down for such things, but I did not want Bill’s
> reproduced article to give everyb
What $30 WiFi link are you talking about?
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Things are coming along with a snag or two. Wouldn’t be a boat otherwise.
>
> Thing
The newest ones on the boat would be from the early 90s. The cable up the mast
is from the 80s and that’s the one that tests perfect. Go figure.
I keep meaning to swap that one because it is the oldest but it shows 1.2 VSWR,
which is pretty good!
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mai
We have a Colorado registered Columbia 50 in our marina. While the sailboat
should have been registered in Florida by now, I was told by the owner that he
did not pay sales tax to register the vessel in Colorado (his home state) but
he would have to pay about $5k in taxes to register it in FL.
Yes, and he won against the PA Fish and Boat Commission (currently on appeal).
I used to lecture locally on this subject with respect to both the PFBC and the
U.S. Coast Guard. My co-presenter was an Assistant U.S. Attorney, who
obviously had a different view than mine.
Once upon a time, the U
Lots of legal issues today. Most States have enacted a Sales Tax/Use Tax
scheme to stop the avoidance of sales tax. The PA statute, which follows the
common pattern, charges “use tax” for items that are used in PA and for which
no sales tax was paid. If sales tax was paid, the use tax is the
AFAIK the USCG was taken all the way to the Supreme Court and won there on the
ability to do searches for any reason they felt like back in the 1790s.
An old complaint for sure!
Joe
Coquina
IANAL
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Fred,
I think that if you kept your boat only on the waters of the Great
Lakes, you could get away without state registration. As soon as you
put into port however, you just entered State controlled waterways. I
guess you could anchor offshore and go into port with a registered dingy
but th
There was another one...in the 1970s, I think, when the CG prevailed I. Their
desire to do searches anytime any place. A fellow named Kennedy (I think) took
it to the Supreme Court.
Andy
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtser
I’m aware that I have to register in the state, and have faithfully done so
since I bought my first sailboat up on Lake Superior. But the whole argument
of displaying registration numbers on a documented vessel is something that I
don’t think is legal for a state to require, as it would (as I u
I friend of mine kept a Hylas for a time on the East Coast. He was a Colorado
resident but took delivery of the vessel in Florida and the vessel’s hailing
port was Port Townsend, WA where his company was located. Within 90 days after
delivery he needed to move the boat from Ft Lauderdale or ri
Lots of people travel from Florida to Georgia quarterly for that reason.
Also, if your boat is listed with a Florida broker you can get a sticker
and avoid the tax.
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I friend of mine kept a Hylas for a
There was a 1983 U.S. Supreme Court case that was Customs-related. I attempted
to send a pdf copy of the recent PA Superior Court case that summarizes PA and
Federal law, but it got hung up due to size (about 150kb). Perhaps Stu will
cut it loose for the group.
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-Lis
Link to the case:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16139861775048620606&q=search+%2B+boat&hl=en&as_sdt=4,388&as_ylo=2014
Joel
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> There was a 1983 U.S. Supreme Court case that was Customs-
Hi All,
Any one used this Battery Equalizer solution?
https://www.batterystuff.com/battery-restoration/fluid/BE12oz.html
Snake oil or useful?
Thanks, Lee
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every one is g
Recommend it for batteries you can top up deep cycle or starting. Not snake oil
in my experience.
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> On Jan 26, 2018, at 3:17 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Any one used this Battery Equalizer solution?
> https://www.batterystuff.com/battery-res
Hello everyone:
I have a bit of an issue on my 1973 C&C 30 Mark 1. my forward water tank
underneath the v-berth has two small pieces of copper pipe protruding from the
tank, originally it had a hose attached to it that would lead to the pump and
the faucets. I would like to change out the hose t
Look at the sharkbite fittings. They seem to work on everything. Any Home
Depot/Lowes/hardware store should have them
Joel
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 2:46 PM, T power via CnC-List wrote:
> Hello everyone:
> I have a bit of an issue on my 1973 C&C 30 Mark 1. my forward water tank
> underneath the
The price is outrageous for what it contains. This will help an old
dying battery serve for a little while longer, but it will not really
"renew" it. You can do the same thing with very cheap Epsom Salt from
the drug store. If you battery needs this, you are at a pont where you
should be pricin
A second on Sharkbite. I used them for the first time on a home plumbing
project last weekend and they worked perfectly. I had to disassemble some
older fittings, which came apart easily even without the special tool
(adjustable wrench trick on YouTube). Cut Pex with hacksaw rather than speci
Lowe’s has a competitive fittings (the same principle, lower cost), as well. I
don’t recall the name, but they work as well.
Marek
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 14:55
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Plumbing help
Look at the sha
I have used these in the garden for water lines, and they will pop off when
exposed to hard weather. Beware, and be sure to get good ones. My son is a
plumber and swears by them, but his must have been a better quality than the
ones I bought.
Best regards,
David Miles
From: CnC-List [mai
I had some old beat up batteries from a back which had reached its end of
life. 2 were straight bad and the third was taking and holding a charge
but low amp-hr capacity. I decided to try the epson salt on all of them.
It had no positive effect on any of the batteries whatsoever.
Josh Muckley
S/
Fred,
I agree. That is why I renewed the documentation on Corsair when
Michigan declared the use of number boards no longer met the
registration number display requirements. I also did display my
Michigan Registration sticker (separate decal from reg numbers) on the
mast (each side).
Mich
Another choice for connectors are Flair-It connectors. They are inexpensive,
require no special tools, and easy to work with.I purchased these
connectors at an Ace Hardware store.
Take a look the write up on replacing the plumbing on my LF38.
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label
Yeah, I wouldn't bother. Any possible improvement will be slight, and
short-lived. I sure wouldn't pay $24! =-O
Bill Bina
On 1/26/2018 4:26 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
I had some old beat up batteries from a back which had reached its end
of life. 2 were straight bad and the third w
you can also get Copper Tube x Pex Barb fittings and use the pex
clamps. It's a smaller, cleaner fitting in my opinon.
I'm about to switch my whole boat over to pex for the water supply
Danny
On 1/26/2018 4:49 PM, Paul E via CnC-List wrote:
Another choice for connectors are Flair-It connecto
One time I was way down at the southern end of the Grenadines, off Petit St.
Vincent, and I saw this beautiful navy blue Hylas 60 whose hailing port was
Telluride, CO :) What a strange thing that was.
Cheers,
Randy
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> I
I love Flair-It! Not sure they work on copper...
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jan 26, 2018 4:50 PM, "Paul E via CnC-List"
wrote:
Another choice for connectors are Flair-It connectors. They are
inexpensive, require no special tools, and easy to work with.I
purc
No luck :(
The CP180 will NOT take data into port 1 or 2 no matter what. To make matters
worse, the cabling goes through the pedestal and winds all over to the chart
table. Taking the splice apart would be a project.
I think I am going to cough up the $18.00 and get another data cable to test
Back in 2013, one of the Florida Wildlife Nazis explained to me that Florida
law requires that, if your vessel is not registered in your home state (and
documentation doesn't count) it had to be registered in Florida. IIRC, the
grace period for getting it registered was 30 days in state. I found it
Lee,My experience with stuff to make something last longer is nothing but snake
oil. Works for a short time then failure. Being a mechanic, my saying has
always been. Pay me now or PAY me more later.
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