Stus-List Winterizing the engine

2024-11-20 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
After winterized my boat I got to thinking about the process of pumping antifreeze through the engine and water tank system. Some people winterize their house water system by blowing all the water out of the lines instead of pumping in antifreeze. If you did the same with the seawater side of

Re: Stus-List winterizing a 29-2

2019-11-24 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
to" (on the hard for a month) Ottawa, ON -Original Message- From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Steve Thomas via CnC-List Sent: 24 November, 2019 10:53 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing a 29-2 I run engine coolant antifreeze through the engine and th

Re: Stus-List winterizing a 29-2

2019-11-24 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
I run engine coolant antifreeze through the engine and the head. Alcohol-based antifreeze is hard on rubber parts and seals. I used to use plumbing antifreeze (rated for potable water systems) in the onboard water supply system but found it difficult to eliminate the smell/taste afterwards.

Re: Stus-List winterizing a 29-2

2019-11-24 Thread Thomas Perison via CnC-List
Bev- I normally put the raw water intake hose into a gallon of antifreeze - closing thru -hull first! - turn on engine. Repeat. Takes a bit over 1 Gal to run thru the 2GM. I haven’t used the onboard water for years - but have done similar by putting into tank and running the pumps until “pink

Re: Stus-List winterizing a 29-2

2019-11-23 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
As a starting point, there are these two checklists on the C&C Photo Album Home Page: *Fall Check Out List* *: *http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/fallchecklist/fallchklist.htm *Winterizing Checklistt*

Stus-List winterizing a 29-2

2019-11-23 Thread Bev Parslow via CnC-List
This the first time a 29-2 has to be put up on the hard for the winter. Does anyone has a winterizing program that we can use. The engine is a 2gmf.___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly app

Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-20 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi Marek, We don't worry about it. The pink stuff is the backup for the backup... I run 2 "True North" heaters with one set at the lowest "No Freeze" setting in case the main one fails. The Pink stuff is in case both stop because of extended power failure that could caused by a bad spell of fre

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-20 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
gato > Ottawa, ON > > *From:* robert via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 14:15 > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* robert > *Subject:* Stus-List Winterizing water system > > I try to keep it as simple as possibledrain the fresh water tank, > hot water

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
, November 19, 2018 14:15 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Stus-List Winterizing water system I try to keep it as simple as possibledrain the fresh water tank, hot water tank into the bilge and then close up...keep the pressure water system on and blow as much of the water from the

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I never do anything but run the water out and then run pink stuff through. Drain both tanks, add 2 gallons of pink to each, and run it through the lines. One year I wanted running water all winter and just left the cabin heat turned up to 70. It was fine until a hose out in the unheated cockpit

Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-19 Thread robert via CnC-List
I try to keep it as simple as possibledrain the fresh water tank, hot water tank into the bilge and then close up...keep the pressure water system on and blow as much of the water from the hoses/taps/ hot WT/showerpour approx 2 gallons of RV or Plumber's AF into the fresh water tank and

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
via CnC-List Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 12:14 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Francois Rivard Subject: Stus-List Winterizing water system Hi All, Pretty straightforward here: Emptying the tanks: I Just run the tanks dry by running the water thorough the faucets normally then clean / dry the

Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-19 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi All, Pretty straightforward here: Emptying the tanks: I Just run the tanks dry by running the water thorough the faucets normally then clean / dry the tanks using paper towels through the access ports. Adding the pink stuff: There's a "T" fitting after the pump (Alleviates having to run alcoh

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I pump my tanks dry, then use a shop-vac to blow into the hotwater tank drain. The drain is branched off of the cold water inlet to the heater so this perfectly pressurizes the hot and cold system. I systematically open each faucet on hot and cold until all the water is gone. Then I go to the af

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:08 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system Shop vac has worked good for me. I found the rv alcohol antifreeze left a residual taste that was hard to clear, and I suspected that it was hard on rubber parts in the pump

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-19 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Shop vac has worked good for me. I found the rv alcohol antifreeze left a residual taste that was hard to clear, and I suspected that it was hard on rubber parts in the pump. Same idea as compressed air I guess, but suck instead of blow. Still have to pay attention to potential blockage by pumps

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-18 Thread Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List
I agree for the tank. Just letting it drain should be fine. It’s the running antifreeze through the rest of the system that’s throwing me. Today I did blast the tank with a compressor and more water came out so I like doing that. Just letting it drain wasn’t 100 percent, but likely good enough.

Re: Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-18 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I leave mine drained and dry with hoses disconnected and i don’t blow with compressed. 15 years no problems same pump and hw tank. I like simple On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:39 PM Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am trying to winterize my water system myself this y

Stus-List Winterizing water system

2018-11-18 Thread Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List
I am trying to winterize my water system myself this year. I have a C& 35 mk3. I took the intake and output hoses off of the hot water tank, the lower connection was a T, I think that was the cold water input. I attached the hot to the cold water T, and let the water drain out of the tank. I pla

Re: Stus-List Winterizing checklist?

2018-09-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
There are spring, fall and winter checklists in the DIY section of the photoalbum. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ Dennis C. On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 4:20 PM jay hackney via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a handy checklist for winterizing your boat (and the > Atomic en

Re: Stus-List Winterizing checklist?

2018-09-24 Thread Chris Price via CnC-List
Get hold of the Moyer Marine Atomic Four manual. Very clear instructions fo winterizing the engine. Chris Price with a 45 year old A 4 still running like a clock. On September 24, 2018 at 5:19 PM jay hackney via CnC-List wrote:Does anyone have a handy checklist for winterizing your boat (and the A

Re: Stus-List Winterizing checklist?

2018-09-24 Thread Stu via CnC-List
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com//doityourself/fallchecklist/fallchklist.htm Stu --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatl

Stus-List Winterizing checklist?

2018-09-24 Thread jay hackney via CnC-List
Does anyone have a handy checklist for winterizing your boat (and the Atomic engine)? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciate

Re: Stus-List Winterizing for Liveaboard in the North Atlantic

2017-12-05 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Great method. Great video. Thanks. > On December 5, 2017 at 10:57 AM Dan via CnC-List > wrote: > > I've posted a new DIY video of how I used Vapour Barrier to cover the > boat for winter this year (in the water) - I have a pretty nice green house > going on right now, should be able to s

Stus-List Winterizing for Liveaboard in the North Atlantic

2017-12-05 Thread Dan via CnC-List
I've posted a new DIY video of how I used Vapour Barrier to cover the boat for winter this year (in the water) - I have a pretty nice green house going on right now, should be able to sit out in January with my coffee and maybe even grow some tomatoes? :) https://youtu.be/_n4Ii1-aZ34 Dan S/V Brea

Stus-List Winterizing

2017-10-10 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Here's a link to BoatUS Boaters' Guide to Winterizing: https://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/winter/winterizing.pdf?utm_source=membership&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=coop-eline-1017 -- Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ The bills

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Diesel Engine Raw Water

2017-08-05 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I do similar except I run clear plastic tubing from the bucket on deck and shove it into the raw water intake port on the outside of the hull. I start with plain water to make sure water is being sucked in and then switch to a bucket with 50.50 antifreeze until it is all gone and I see green co

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Diesel Engine Raw Water

2017-08-05 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I have a sea flush and use it. It works but is not necessary. Like others I have installed a tee. It has a garden hose fitting and cap to allow easy connections. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yYURDZGRKWWhpdzA/view?usp=drivesdk With this orientation the tee provides the ability to

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Diesel Engine Raw Water

2017-08-05 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
, August 5, 2017 9:01 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Diesel Engine Raw Water Ron, I just close the intake through hull, take the top off the strainer, and pour in antifreeze with engine running..done. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater Mi Sent

Stus-List Winterizing Diesel Engine Raw Water

2017-08-05 Thread robert via CnC-List
My raw water strainer is deep inside the engine compartment and too inaccessible to easily pour antifreeze into it. I put a 5 gallon bucket in the cockpit with 2 gallons of antifreeze (50% - 50%) in it.disconnect the raw water intake hose from water pump..connect a hose from the bucket

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Diesel Engine Raw Water

2017-08-05 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Ron, Having done the same struggle for years, in 2015 I installed a tee valve under that same floorboard. It was from this company: http://www.quickflushvalve.com/how-it-works.html I also added a long enough hose to reach the helm, so now, when winterizing, I close the thru hull, change the te

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Diesel Engine Raw Water

2017-08-05 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
Ron, I just close the intake through hull, take the top off the strainer, and pour in antifreeze with engine running..done. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater Mi Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Saturday, August 5, 2017 Ron Ricci via CnC-List wrote: Each year, I struggle with pulling a hose off my r

Stus-List Winterizing Diesel Engine Raw Water

2017-08-05 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Each year, I struggle with pulling a hose off my raw water strainer to flush anti-freeze through the system. I've considered installing a tee in the line. Recently I came across an adaptor (Sea Flush) that fits in the top of most any raw water strainer but it didn't look like there was enough ver

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Home Hardware sells pure propylene glycol. Search for Cryo-Tek concentrated antifreeze. 18.9 liters ( 5 US gallons ) is $135. It may be that glycerin based antifreeze is the best choice for winterizing an engine block though other than in sprinkler systems it has not caught on. Michael Brown Wi

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread John Sandford via CnC-List
Joe [mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:07 PM To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F I have had my boat since 1977. If pink antifreeze was harmful to rubber parts I would have bought a TON of impellers and joker valves by now! Joe Coquin

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Yes. Environmental considerations aside, engine antifreeze is better for both the raw water cooling system and the head, but not suitable for potable water systems. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON Persuasion37 via CnC-List wrote: Doesn't the engine anti-freeze contain rust

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
; -Original Message- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Thomas via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:44 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Steve Thomas > Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F > > You might th

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
d overboard. Joe Coquina Still two months away from antifreeze :) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Winte

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 1:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F There is a school of thought that maintains that the impeller might deteriorate in the antifreeze, especially, since most of the AF

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F Joe, I think you are right. And I read the same about how poisonous the two are. I am using the pink stuff for winterisation and cross my fingers that the rubber parts don’t mind it. The two primary concerns are the

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
is that I replace either or both every so often. Compared to other expenses of operating a sailboat these are acceptable. Marek From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 14:50 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
t; -Original Message- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Thomas via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:44 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Steve Thomas > Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F > > You might think

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
antifreeze :) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F You might think that, but it is not

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
oun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 1:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F There is a school of thought that maintains that the impeller might deteriorate in the antifreeze, especially,

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 1:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F There is a school of thought that maintains that the impeller might deteriorate in the antifreeze, especially, since most of the AF is Ethylene Glycol. IIRC,

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
about water diluting the AF. Marek 1994 C270 “Legato” Ottawa, ON From: David Platt via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 10:37 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Platt Subject: Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F Tim I am curious about why you advocate taking the impeller out. Won&#

Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread David Platt via CnC-List
t-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave S via CnC-List *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 8:36 PM *To:* C&c Stus List *Cc:* Dave S *Subject:* Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F Hi Doug, Third GTA winter coming up and I have not yet run the red stuff through windstar's engine. (IIRC the m

Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-13 Thread Tim Sippel via CnC-List
boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 8:36 PM To: C&c Stus List Cc: Dave S Subject: Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F Hi Doug, Third GTA winter coming up and I have not yet run the red stuff through windstar's engine. (IIRC the manual doe

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
-List" To: "cnc-list" , "Neil Gallagher via CnC-List" Cc: kwalt...@speakeasy.net Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:24:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 I have the Moyer FWC cooling system on my A4 which needs no winterization (as it and the bl

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I agree draining may not be the best option. Touche's raw water cooled AT4 had been idle for years (at least 8-10 to my knowledge). When I pulled the side plates to clean the water chamber area around the cylinders, I discovered the sealing surface of the block around the side plates had thinned

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Ken via CnC-List
I have the Moyer FWC cooling system on my A4 which needs no winterization (as it and the block are filled with automotive type antifreeze). To winterize the seawater side of the FWC, seawater pump and wet exhaust  I pull a hose off the seawater strainer, put it in a bucket of the pink stuff (non t

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
When I first put fresh water cooling on my A4, I did drain the block and pump every year, but then it occurred to me that I was leaving the interior of the engine filled with air and moisture, not the best combination. Taking the side plate off in my case would be difficult. I now make sure m

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
When I bought Touche' in 1999, it had an AT4. It had the drain plug extension. When I finally got it started, the drain plug extension leaked. As I recall, it was corroded at the threads at the cap. When I went to replace it, it fell apart. I think it's just a 1/8 or 1/4 pipe nipple. Just som

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
 I have the extension pipe installed between the distributor and the alternator belt. There is just a cap on the end that I remove to drain the block. It is easy. The two drain plugs on the block are simple to get to. The drain plug on the bottom of the water pump is a bit fiddly to start back in,

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
*Josh Muckley *Subject: **Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4* *Date: *October 10, 2016 at 10:27:53 PM EDT *To: *"C&C List" You can plumb in auxiliary suctions that will let you draw glycol straight out of the jug. If you haul the boat you can stuff a tygon hose up the through h

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread phorvati . via CnC-List
U have to drain the block. Side inspection plate will leak if you dont drain it. Its fragile as it is. It doesnt take too much freezing to develop leaks. Block drain plug is under distributor, just aft of side inspection plate. It's pita. Moyer sells extention to make this easy. On Oct 11, 201

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
My atomic 4 is raw water cooled, I have drained the engine and water pump using the drain plugs and not used any antifreeze. That has worked in Toronto for the last nine years. I did experiment with a thin tube and suction pump the first year to see how much water was left in the block. I doubt i

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
This is how I do it with my diesel. Always on the hard. I warm up the engine first, using fresh water into that bucket. Marek From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:48 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
after the pump. Probably the best would be to drain the muffler first, push the water out and drain it again? Marek From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:54 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 Marek, the worry

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
be done in or out of the water. Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:50 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 Marek,

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 07:25 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Kevin Deluzio *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 My first haul-out with a new-to-me 1980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I like the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you con

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Kevin Deluzio Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 My first haul-out with a new-to-me 1980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I like the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you connect that to the same location - at water intake hose disconnected

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I > like the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you connect > that to the same location - at water intake hose disconnected from seacock ? > > Kevin > > > > > *From: *Josh Muckley > *Subject: **Re: Stus-List Wi

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
h a new-to-me 1980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I like the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you connect that to the same location - at water intake hose disconnected from seacock ? Kevin *From:*Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> *Subject:**Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Kevin Deluzio via CnC-List
gt; > Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 > Date: October 10, 2016 at 10:27:53 PM EDT > To: "C&C List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > > > You can plumb in auxiliary suctions that will let you draw glycol straight > out of the jug. If you haul

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-10 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
From: RANDY via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: October 10, 2016 21:50 To: cnc-list<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: RANDY<mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net> Subject: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 My first haul-out with my 30-1 (purchased in January) is coming u

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-10 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
I just disconnect the intake hose from the seacock and stick it into a bottle of antifreeze. I'm running without thermostat however so it's simple. If you're new with the A4 a great resource is moyer marine. The forums there are really helpful. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 a

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
You can plumb in auxiliary suctions that will let you draw glycol straight out of the jug. If you haul the boat you can stuff a tygon hose up the through hull and beer bong the glycol into the engine. Or you can try the seaflush. I have one and it works, though it might be a bit over priced. I l

Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-10 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
My first haul-out with my 30-1 (purchased in January) is coming up in a few weeks, sadly. The PO advised me to just run antifreeze through the raw-water cooling system until it comes out the exhaust. My main question is how to get the antifreeze into the raw water intake. I've seen a gadget made

Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-10 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
+ (UTC) From: To: C&C List Subject: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F Message-ID: <1911996305.1436982. 1476131695...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It's my first year with the 2GM20F and it's almost time to winterize it. Is there anythin

Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-10 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
7 - whitby) Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 20:34:55 + (UTC) From: To: C&C List Subject: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F Message-ID: <1911996305.1436982.1476131695...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It's my first year with the 2GM20F and it'

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2016-10-10 Thread johnr via CnC-List
Check with your yard re any heater. Many will not allow an unattended live electrical hook up for stored boats. John McL Falcon C&C29-2 -Original Message- From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2016 6:25 pm Subject: Re: S

Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Are you hauling it out? If not, you should consider disconnecting the exhaust elbow so that the water lift muffler doesn't draw moist air in and out of the engine as the boat rocks fore and aft. Obviously wait till you're done running glycol through. Many people choose to change the oil/filter a

Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-10 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
It's my first year with the 2GM20F and it's almost time to winterize it. Is there anything I need to do other running anti freeze through the fresh water intake until it comes out the exhaust?  Cheers,Doug Celtic Knot33-2___ This list is supported by t

Re: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank

2015-11-20 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
] On Behalf Of David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:00 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank Do people worry about emptying the holding tank for winter storage? Both boats I have bought had stuff left in the hol

Re: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank

2015-11-20 Thread Don Newman via CnC-List
Years ago we had a power boat in our marina that was renamed The Busted Flush after their half full holding tank froze and burst over the winter. Even with room for expansion ice will put extra pressure on the tank that may or may not withstand it. I prefer not to take the chance. -- Don Newman

Re: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank

2015-11-20 Thread johnr via CnC-List
Pump out is inexpensive and should be done. Yes you do want anti-freeze in the lines. John McLaughlin "Pyewacket" -Original Message- From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Robert Boyer Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2015 8:58 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing the Ho

Re: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank

2015-11-20 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
, 2015 8:00 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank Do people worry about emptying the holding tank for winter storage? Both boats I have bought had stuff left in the holding tank when I took ownership, and there was no damage, so I have

Re: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank

2015-11-20 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
Why take a chance? Why not get a pumpout? Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame > O

Re: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank

2015-11-20 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
, November 20, 2015 8:00 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank Do people worry about emptying the holding tank for winter storage? Both boats I have bought had stuff left in the holding tank when I took ownership, and there was no damage

Re: Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank

2015-11-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I suck mine out and refill a few times with fresh water. Then a shot of bleach down the toilet to clean the lines and then some more flushing. All of this is completed with a shot of glycol. I have a vacu-flush so vacuum tank and lines are longer and more critical. Once glycol is in the tank I

Stus-List Winterizing the Holding Tank

2015-11-20 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Do people worry about emptying the holding tank for winter storage? Both boats I have bought had stuff left in the holding tank when I took ownership, and there was no damage, so I have presumed that with plenty of expansion room in the tank, it won’t be a problem. I have flushed some antifree

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-10-03 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
mp;C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Douglas Mountjoy" Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:20:29 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake Edd, This is

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake Tee

2015-09-30 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: September-29-15 23:06 To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list Cc: Chuck S Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake Tee Read somewhere to add a bronze tee to the thruhull. This allows you to easily check or clear a blockage while cruising and easily

Re: Stus-List Winterizing raw water intake

2015-09-30 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Len I agree with you and do basically the same - though I have a piece of dedicated hose with a male / male barb fitting in one end which I simply put into the hose that I remove from the through hull. Takes a little bit of quick moving to get to the engine panel to stop the engine before the an

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake Tee

2015-09-29 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
28, 2015 8:42:28 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake What am i missing here? For 20+ years all I’ve done, is close the engine raw water in, run the engine while pouring a couple of gallons of antifreeze in through the top of the raw water strainer. When it comes out pink

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Edd, Here is a picture of my fittings. They still need fully tightened. Most if not all of them are made by Banjo and are glass reinforced polypropylene. I'll admit that it is not specifically Marlon (I searched high and low) but the specs and materials are as close a match as possible. Josh O

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-29 Thread Rick via CnC-List
I don't think the thermostat has anything to do with raw water (salt water in my case). I guess it could be a couple of gallons or more in the system (intake, heat exchanger, and then wet muffler and exhaust) so you could pump several (even 5 gal) before you see it exit the exhaust. I will ne

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-29 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
ner via CnC-List > *Sent:* September-28-15 17:20 > *To:* CnC CnC discussion list > *Cc:* Don Wagner > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake > > > > I’ve used David’s technique if I’m on the hard. It works great. > > > > If I’m still in the

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-29 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David Knecht <mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake My solution is simpler. I found a tubing size at the hardware store that fit snugly into the outside opening of the raw water intake. I g

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread Don Wagner via CnC-List
iver MD From: robert via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 8:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake Don: I have witnessed your 'in water' engine winterizing process under taken 'on the hard'..on the ha

Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread robert via CnC-List
My raw water strainer is in my engine compartment on the starboard side.I can reach it from in front of the engine with my left hand, but just barely ...it would be impossible for me to pour antifreeze into the strainer bowl let alone start and stop the engine. The bucket in the cockpi

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi John- The way I do it, it is a one person job and I am on deck for the whole job. No running back and forth between the cabin and the transom. That way, I can keep an eye on the bucket and the color of what is coming out the back at the same time. Dave On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:42 PM, John Pe

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Fair enough - just wanted to make sureI wasn’t being stupid again! John > On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hi John > For some of us the idea of doing contortions to be able to pour antifreeze > into my raw water strainer... I'll go with other solutions.

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List
Hi John For some of us the idea of doing contortions to be able to pour antifreeze into my raw water strainer... I'll go with other solutions. My back hurts thinking about that. My strainer is not easily accessible. My solution is similar to Rob's, but I just use a couple of feet of hose

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
What am i missing here? For 20+ years all I’ve done, is close the engine raw water in, run the engine while pouring a couple of gallons of antifreeze in through the top of the raw water strainer. When it comes out pink at the exhaust end I stop. Once on the hard I open the raw water intake and

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread robert via CnC-List
David: I do the same on the 'hard'remove the raw water hose in front of the raw water pump.connect a hose to the pump to a 5 gallon bucket in the cockpit with a running fresh water hose into the bucket...flush the engine of salt water with fresh water .heat the engine up.stop

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread robert via CnC-List
m> *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2015 1:56 PM *To:* CnC CnC discussion list <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Cc:* David Knecht <mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake My solution is simpler. I found a tubing size at the hardware store

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread svpegasus38
rick Davin via CnC-List Date: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 13:11To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Patrick Davin;Subject:Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake I thought most people in the PNW don't winterize. Doug, I'm curious why is it on your list? (especially with a heater going inside it see

Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake

2015-09-28 Thread Don Wagner via CnC-List
the Spring. Winterizing the water tanks is another story. Don Wagner C&C 41 CB Der Baron West River MD I From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 1:56 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing -- Raw Water Intake My solution is si

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