Stus-List Rob Ball

2022-09-14 Thread Novabraid via CnC-List
List folks, As you all have heard, Rob Ball is no longer with us. I was very fortunate to know Rob and his family quite well as he and I worked together at Edson, we raced together on various C&C's and Etchells and shared numerous dinners and glasses of wine over the past few decades. His family

Stus-List Rob Ball obit

2022-09-11 Thread Motion Designs Limited via CnC-List
Robert Wilson Ball, age 79 (August 24, 1943 – September 9, 2022) loved life and lived it to the fullest. He was an engaged husband, father, grandfather, brother and friend who cared deeply for the people in his life. Rob caught the sailing bug early and devoted much of his life to the sport -

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-11 Thread Dave via CnC-List
cc: > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 12:39:15 + > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness" > Earlier C&C’s had the bulkheads ‘floating’ in the headliner groove, and as we > got into larger sizes (bigger loads) those tie downs were the solution. > > On

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Thanks Nathan and Rob for the details on these. Unfortunately, mine are completely gone, and it's hard to tell where they once were, although under the right light I can see a few clues on the deck. I'm a bit done with boat projects now after 4-5 months, but maybe next winter I'll investigate more.

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
those > earlier boats? I wasn't sure if the liner could take it or if some work > would need to be done to grind out the liner and fiberglass directly to the > hull laminate, which would be more involved and error prone. > > ------ Forwarded message -- > From: Rob

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
r and fiberglass directly to the >>> hull laminate, which would be more involved and error prone. >>> >>> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: Rob Ball mailto:r...@edsonintl.com>> >>> To: Shawn Wright mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>&

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
David, Thanks, Never saw that piece of insight.  I have no idea how accurate the 47 year old backstay gage is.  Those are relative settings that feel right.  Have not folded the boat in half nor driven the mast thru the keel  - yet! Don Kern /Fireball,/ C&C35 Mk2 Bristol RI On 6/10/2020 10:

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread david--- via CnC-List
>> hull laminate, which would be more involved and error prone. >> >> -- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Rob Ball >> To: Shawn Wright , "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 12:39:15 +0

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
My MKII 35 too On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:51 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > My 35 MK I has been a bit flexible and creaky for 47 years now, so it > seems to have worked out. Thanks for that explanation! > > > > > > *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I* > > *www

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
To: Shawn Wright <mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 12:39:15 + Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness" Earlier C&C’

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
One strange looking keel... https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rHnWif-WO_I/WpMjx2P9d-I/AAABsVM/j0JahatW9CgQfrQN7O-a7GTWgDUx_fgDgCEwYBhgL/s1600/Wave%2BTrain%2B-My%2BShadow%2B%2B3.jpg Ken H. On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 16:59, Rob Ball via CnC-List wrote: > But it had a Super Duper Brit Chance keel . . .

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
But it had a Super Duper Brit Chance keel . . . . . . ? Rob BallC&C 34 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contrib

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
. Risch (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Ken Heaton via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 3:33 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Ken Heaton ; Bailey White ; Rob Ball Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness" Hi Rob, I recall C&C did that at the factory for W

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hi Rob, I recall C&C did that at the factory for Watt Webb's 37R "Wave Trane". There is a drawing for the boat showing the addition of a waterproof crash bulkhead forward, all interior bulkheads tabbed to the deck above, an upgraded deck and bulkhead construction, and a weird custom Britt Chance

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
I sailed on a 40 and we cut the headliner back about 4 inches from the bulkhead – and taped the bulkhead to the deck. Then used wood to fill in the headliner afterwards . . . Not that hard, but labor intensive . . . . Rob Ball C&C 34 ___ Thanks ever

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Bailey White via CnC-List
prone. -- Forwarded message -- From: Rob Ball To: Shawn Wright , "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 12:39:15 +0000 Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness" Earlier C&C’s had the bulkheads ‘floating’ in

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
My 35 MK I has been a bit flexible and creaky for 47 years now, so it seems to have worked out. Thanks for that explanation! Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Earlier C&C’s had the bulkheads ‘floating’ in the headliner groove, and as we got into larger sizes (bigger loads) those tie downs were the solution. On the C&C 40, there were a lot of warranty claims for those leaks, and eventually it was decided to stiffen up things to prevent this. The first

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-09 Thread Nathan Post via CnC-List
Shawn, On my 34 the deck to bulkhead fittings also leaked and as I found out were installed through cored laminate that had rotted so they were not doing much good. I recored the deck and used a piece of ~6x6” 1/2 inch thick g10 fiberglass in place of balsa where the tang bolts. Planning on cutt

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-09 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Our 35-2 has plenty of creaks but she still feels tough. I understand the grid reinforcement that C&C and most others switched to in the late 70s/early 80s is responsible for a lot of the stiffness of the later boats. In our case, the tangs holding the top of the forward bulkheads to the deck were

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-09 Thread Glenn Henderson via CnC-List
I have driven our 41 mercilessly. Not because I want to abuse the boat, she seems to thrive in it. She just feels very tough. We have no creaks or groans except for the forward cabin door that came loose because of the motion. The 41 is an impressive design. Glenn and Lindsey Henderson C&C 41 WeGo

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-27 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Randy, I worked one summer while going to Michigan, and started at Cuthbertson and Cassian in 1969 when I graduated . . . In 1973, Big George wanted to retire early, and he handed me the Chief Designer job (much to my surprise). The C&C 30 was very much a development of the C&C 27, and I did the

Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-27 Thread robert via CnC-List
Ken: Thank you for the correctionI said I was no C&C authority.did some homework after my incorrect post.Rob Ball became C&C's Chief Designer in 1973 according to the Photo Album site. Rob On 2018-09-27 10:40 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote: Robert H. Perry Interviews Rob Bal

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-27 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
*RB: The 33 was (my first design as chief designer), I guess. I became in charge here in 1973 and that was the first boat that was all my design.* On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 10:40, Ken Heaton wrote: > Robert H. Perry Interviews Rob Ball - *C&C Yachts, Chief of Design.* > > *Quote: **http://www.cncph

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-27 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Robert H. Perry Interviews Rob Ball - *C&C Yachts, Chief of Design.* *Quote: **http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/archive/ballinterview.htm * *Rob Ball:* I started working part time in 1966 and I started full time in 1969. We had four people then,

Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-27 Thread robert via CnC-List
Randy: I shouldn't but in here because I am no authority on the C&C history but I doubt the 'initials in the Drawn block' for your C&C 30 MK I are those of Rob Ball as the 'designer'..I believe George Cuthbertson designed 30 MK I.   I think Rob Ball joined the C&C company in the early 1980

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-27 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
ell them. When painting this he always took care of the dimple Thanks for sharing your albums Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 5:09 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Randy Stafford Subject: Stus-List Rob Ball

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-26 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Thanks Shawn. The boom is longer than the main’s foot because of the way the outhaul works. It’s a screw-drive with a little hand crank on the aft end of the boom, taking some 12” of E dimension. It works that way because the boom was originally designed for roller-reefing - there’s a crank n

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-26 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
A great story, and a beautiful boat! Thanks for sharing. I notice your main does not extend to the end of the boom. Is the longer boom primarily to allow for the traveler on the transom, or is there an alternate mainsail? On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 1:10 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-l

Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C&C 30 MK I?

2018-09-26 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Hi Rob, Since we’re discussing the 30 MK I on the mail list today, I thought I’d share a blast from the past - a drawing of the sail plan for the 24’9” LWL Auxiliary Sloop (i.e. the 30 MK I), dated Dec. 22, 1970. See https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LNnF3ohhpfxYPndc528aTh6uvJHhPOel

Stus-List Rob Ball

2018-09-05 Thread David via CnC-List
Congrats Rob!Hope to see you on the Bay. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 Corsair >From my Android ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - us

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift

2013-02-25 Thread Dave Godwin
rson? I've thought about a > half model of my C&C 30 mk 1, but don't know who to contact or the > approximate price. > Thanks > Ron > Wild Cheri > STL > > > --- On Mon, 2/25/13, Andrew Burton wrote: > > From: Andrew Burton > Subject: Re: Stus-Lis

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift

2013-02-25 Thread Andrew Burton
pproximate price. > Thanks > Ron > Wild Cheri > STL > > > --- On *Mon, 2/25/13, Andrew Burton * wrote: > > > From: Andrew Burton > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 10:31 AM > > >

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift

2013-02-25 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Andrew, could you get me in contact with that person?  I've thought about a half model of my C&C 30 mk 1, but don't know who to contact or the approximate price.ThanksRonWild CheriSTL --- On Mon, 2/25/13, Andrew Burton wrote: From: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob Bal

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift...News Update!!

2013-02-25 Thread David Risch
. Rob races that boat locally. So...fund raising can focus on the Etchells half hull. Any interest out there? David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:30:29 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift Dave, I

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift

2013-02-25 Thread David Risch
Andrew, It could be the same guy. Stay tuned. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:30:29 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift Dave, I know a local model maker who is a C&C owner who will contribu

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift

2013-02-25 Thread Andrew Burton
I implied but wasn't clear that it would be free. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Andrew Burton wrote: > Dave, > > I know a local model maker who is a C&C owner who will contribute a model > of a 35 Mk III for Rob. > This is a 27, but it gives you the idea. Let me know when you need it. > > [im

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Gift

2013-02-25 Thread Andrew Burton
Dave, I know a local model maker who is a C&C owner who will contribute a model of a 35 Mk III for Rob. This is a 27, but it gives you the idea. Let me know when you need it. [image: http://www.tridentstudio.com/models/images/CC27MKII.jpg] Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:25 AM,

Stus-List Rob Ball Gift

2013-02-25 Thread David Risch
All, I had a discussion with Rob Ball and it seems his half-hull model collection has a gap. He is missing the C & C 35-III. Any interest in we all contributing to get this to him? I do not know the logistics of how we do this, but there is a local model builder who is willing to do this a

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball and the 37+/40

2012-09-24 Thread Edd Schillay
Tom, I did. Great story. Will write it up once I get home and connected to real Internet. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise Traveling Warp 6.1 20 miles east of Southport Harbor On Sep 24, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Tom B wrote: Edd Did you get

Stus-List Rob Ball and the 37+/40

2012-09-24 Thread Tom B
Edd Did you get to ask Rob Ball about the origin of the wholes"+" thing? Tom Buscaglia Alera C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com