Stus-List Keel Bolts torque

For many years I've been wanting to check my keel bolt torque and after a light grounding last year in anchorage, I acquired the tools and was shocked this last weekend to find all nuts measured 35-50 pounds of torque. For my '81 C&C34 with 1" rods in the keel, the torque should be closer to 35

Stus-List keel bolts

Keel: My boatyard did something similar when we replaced the keel. They prepped the joint surfaces with the intention of glassing the joint, ground a six inch bevel into the fiberglass stub, and the top edge of the lead keel. They cleaned out all the bolt holes, buttered the keel joint, lowere

Stus-List Keel bolts comment/question

Hi Charlie, In answer to your questions: Yes, keel bolts can be tightened while the boat is in the water or on a cradle. Intuitively, many have suggested that the boat needs to be on a cradle with the keel supported so the keel is not "hanging". However, a calculation of loads and forces i

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; > > > *From:* Ken Heaton > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2019 2:39 PM > *To:* cnc-list > *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com; bwhitmore ; Rob Ball < > r...@edsonintl.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Keel bolts comment/question > > > > We had our keel off once a few year

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019 2:39 PM To: cnc-list Cc: cenel...@aol.com; bwhitmore ; Rob Ball Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel bolts comment/question We had our keel off once a few years ago, to check the keel bolts, and to do some repairs to the the keel sump where there had been some excessive material removed in an earlie

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We had our keel off once a few years ago, to check the keel bolts, and to do some repairs to the the keel sump where there had been some excessive material removed in an earlier repair. Our keel weighs 7000 lbs but with the nuts off, hanging on it own weight on just the bolts it didn't move at all

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This was my experience when removing my keel. We had to “break it loose” when lifting the hull. Question for you Rob, my keel joint had epoxy for the keel stub/keel joint which I assumed was done by a PO when the bottom was peeled and epoxy coated. Was it actually done at the plant? Regards, D

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I have watched a number of keels removed from a hull. Most all the time the epoxy held the keel when the nuts were removed. In fact there are special wedges made to try to break it loose . . . . . It is a really tough job . . . . Bottom line, in my opinion, it will not matter whether the tor

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Hi Charlie, Sorry you have a leak. I believe you have a very unique centerboard version of the 34/36plus. I don't know if they ever made another. Anyway, can you see where the leak is coming from? Was the keel to hull joint showing when it was last on the hard? I would wait until the boat is o

Stus-List Keel bolts comment/question

I am not an engineer in any sense of the word but perhaps someone on the list can critique these thoughts of mine: Keel bolts can be tightened on the hard (while resting on the keel) or in the water while the keel is hanging from the bolts. I suspect the job would be considerably easier (assumin

Re: Stus-List Keel Bolts: To Lube or Not To Lube

If the keel bolts and nuts are stainless I'd use Tef Gel as a lubricant and lower the torque values 10% as Neil suggested. "The function of Tef-Gel in eliminating seizing galling and friction welding of stainless steel, inconel, and other nickel alloys. Tef-Gel applied to both mating surfaces of

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Lower all torque values by 10% if using any lubricant. Most torque values are for "clean and dry threads". Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C&C 35, Mark I) "Corsair" On 4/13/2017 10:18 AM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List wrote: I'm planning on checking the torque on my keel bolts this week-e

Stus-List Keel Bolts: To Lube or Not To Lube

I'm planning on checking the torque on my keel bolts this week-end. My boat is on the hard. I see the torque chart values on the C&C website, but it doesn't indicate whether or not to lubricate the bolts and what to use if you do lubricate. It's my understanding from a little research that the torq

Stus-List Keel bolts

Ahoy! Thanks Mike and Joe for your input. I am only thinking of the "what ifs". Boat has been on the hard in Portsmouth and Buffalo this year, and I recall all looked good. Or was my keel bleeding! Or was that another boat??? All my nuts and washers appear Bristol. She will be coming ashore

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Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel bolts Colin On a previous boat on keel bolt suffered from "Galling" (look it up). It was at the threads exactly where the nut is when tightened and resulted in the nut spinning and not tightening. Inside the keel there was no problem

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er problem. Mike Persistence Halifax, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Binkley via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Colin Binkley Subject: Stus-List Keel bolts Certainly there

Stus-List Keel bolts

Certainly there must be a way to flush and secure corroded keel bolts other than off to the foundry. Colin SV Lindsey Layne 71 C&C 40C #3 Presently in Great Lakes Sent from my iPhone ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members

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inal Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hoyne via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:18 PM To: Will Harris; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel Bolts Thanks for the advice: On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Will Harris via C

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List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hoyne via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:18 PM To: Will Harris; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel Bolts Thanks for the advice: > On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Will Harris via CnC-List wrote: > > I'

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Will, as someone who is going to be lifting the hull off of my keel in a month or so, thanks for sound advice. Happy Thanksgiving to you too. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit > On Nov 26, 2014, at 1:50 PM,

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Thanks for the advice: > On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Will Harris via CnC-List > wrote: > > I've been following the conversation about Keel Bolts and cracks. While we > didn't build your boats, I do have some general advice... > > Cracks - It is easy to think that a crack indicates somethi

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I've been following the conversation about Keel Bolts and cracks. While we didn't build your boats, I do have some general advice... Cracks - It is easy to think that a crack indicates something is breaking. Really, it means that something HAS BROKEN. A crack around the keel is potentially ver

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ject: Stus-List keel bolts Bill: You will get different advice on this issue, as you have noticed. I am no expert, but: 1. there should not be cracks in the bilge sump between the keel bolts, and 2. if there are cracks there, and you are quite confident that they are leaking water, get it checked

Stus-List keel bolts

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List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight > veinot via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 8:13 AM > To: Bill Hoyne; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List keel bolts > > Bill > > 1/2 cup per day is not really much water ingress...on my

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Stus-List keel bolts

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sterday. > > Forecast today is for 70 km/hr winds with gusts to 100 along the shore. > Docking would have been interesting to say the least. > > Michael Brown > Windburn > C&C 30-1 > > > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:12:03 + > From: mcrom...@bell.blackberry

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Bill Hoyne; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List keel bolts Bill 1/2 cup per day is not really much water ingress...on my 35MKII water does come down the mast when it rains and accumulates under the mast step...it can move slowly show into the bilge...are you certain that is not the source of

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ell.blackberry.net > <mailto:mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net>) >2. Re: keel bolts (Della Barba, Joe) >3. Re: Using 12v trickle charger to test components? > (Marek Dziedzic) > > > ------ > > M

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.com Subject: Re: Stus-List keel bolts Message-ID:     <134239895-1416841932-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1701521359-@b3.c5.bise6.blackberry>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" I have to agree. I had a small leak in my bilge two summers ago th

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t Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:00 AM To: Jim Watts; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Bill Hoyne Subject: Stus-List keel bolts Bill: I would tend to agree with Jim Watts.have someone knowledgeable inspect your boat. It is not normal to have cracks in the sump that are leaking water. I would

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I have to agree. I had a small leak in my bilge two summers ago that strangely enough didn't go away by itself and got worse this past summer. The PO had told me about a hard grounding. I got it surveyed this fall after haul-out by a surveyor with lots of C&C experience. Turns out I have hidde

Stus-List keel bolts

Bill: I would tend to agree with Jim Watts.have someone knowledgeable inspect your boat. It is not normal to have cracks in the sump that are leaking water. I would not simply cover up the cracks without knowing how significant they are. Did your boat experience a 'hard grounding'? R

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Sounds like a pro job to me. I would talk to Blackline and get their opinion. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 22 November 2014 at 12:02, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List wrote: > I blasted out to Victoria to escape the frigid Alberta cold for a week or > so. So I thought a little

Stus-List keel bolts

I blasted out to Victoria to escape the frigid Alberta cold for a week or so. So I thought a little biking and messing around in the bilge would be fun. The water in the bilge was a bit salty and the mild steel plates below the keel bolts were badly corroded so I replaced some of the plates with