Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-30 Thread Colin Kilgour
se. > Just, why?? Why leave a boat like this? :( > > Sander > > > ------- > From: Chuck S > To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself >

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Sander van der Moolen
--- Original Message - From: "Sander van der Moolen" To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:06:31 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself Okay, just to make the topic complete, click the link below to download a zip file with picture

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Bob Moriarty
Sander, Just curious. Would the CE label be expensive to acquire on a stripped out hull? What if the other parts arrived elsewhere in the EU? Could they be inexpensively added after the CE label was acquired? Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Sander van der Moolen wrote:

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Chuck S
tch than tackle that old hulk. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "Sander van der Moolen" To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:06:31 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself Okay,

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Sander van der Moolen
Okay, just to make the topic complete, click the link below to download a zip file with pictures. This is only the hull, I didn't take pictures of the rest of it. http://www.vpilot.net/images/candc25.zip ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Alb

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE
Might be making reference to 'marine plywood". I think the glue is somewhat water proof. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Sander van der Moolen wrote: Bob Dryer said: As far as I know, there is no such animal as "waterproof plywood" -- That's what I get when I try to transla

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Sander van der Moolen
: Frederick G Street To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself Message-ID: <846e1024-352a-4e91-b955-d99e28603...@postaudio.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Now we just need to find crew to sail her to the Netherlan

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Frederick G Street
I think we usually refer to this product as "marine plywood," meaning it has been constructed with water-resistant glue, and the veneers are often made of tropical hardwoods. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 29, 2013, at 1

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Sander van der Moolen
Bob Dryer said: As far as I know, there is no such animal as "waterproof plywood" -- That's what I get when I try to translate words literally from Dutch to English J It's a market name for this type of plywood, being "more resistant to water and weather than regular plywood

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Yeah I second shipping a boat. Up here in Ontario there are lots of C&C 25s on the market. Asking price starting is typically around 5k and I bet they sell for a lot less. I sold my own Mirage 24 (a C&C design) for $3700 and I was glad to get it. Steve C&C 32 Toronto On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:1

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Frederick G Street
Now we just need to find crew to sail her to the Netherlands. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Rick Brass wrote: > Sander; > > Where are you located? > > At the risk of crass commerciality, and wi

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-29 Thread Frederick G Street
TWO boats to work on -- AAARGH!!! :^) (Having just gotten back from a long weekend of boat work. At least the snow up there is starting to melt, although I did have to shovel out the cockpit when I arrived Friday night -- completely full to the coamings, and drifted up against the hatch boar

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-28 Thread Hoyt, Mike
very little From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of san...@vpilot.net Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:33 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself Hi listers, Thank you all again for helping me w

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-28 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Sander, Have you checked into the cost of shipping in a container?  If the prices are that high in Europe, it might be worthwhile. Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 STL --- On Sun, 4/28/13, Sander van der Moolen wrote: From: Sander van der Moolen Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for mysel

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-28 Thread Sander van der Moolen
Hiya Rick, In response to: Sander; Where are you located? At the risk of crass commerciality, and with apologies to the rest of the list, I will gladly sell you my 25 mk1, which I've owned for 19 years and have resisted selling until I can find someone who will love it as much as I do an

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-28 Thread randy
Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself Sander; Where are you located? At the risk of crass commerciality, and with apologies to the rest of the list, I will gladly sell you my 25 mk1, which

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-28 Thread Rick Brass
Sander; Where are you located? At the risk of crass commerciality, and with apologies to the rest of the list, I will gladly sell you my 25 mk1, which I've owned for 19 years and have resisted selling until I can find someone who will love it as much as I do and keep it in the condition it

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-28 Thread Gary Nylander
, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself If you're interested in sailing - run away screaming! If you're more interested in DIY buy it. I know a guy who is 8yrs into a 1yr restoration of a stripped Ericsson 30 hull like yours. he's into it for

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread D.Drake
Sander My C&C 26 which was complete and sailing the summer before took my wife and I ,every hour of every weekend and 3 weeks of vacation just to paint the topsides and deck . Every piece of hardware was removed and bagged with pictures . I knew the boat inside and out before I started That i

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Chuck S
90 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "Sander van der Moolen" To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:03:02 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself Thanks everyone for your advice! I have no experi

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Wally Bryant
Sander wrote: I have no experience rebuilding boats. Good call. It would be a good backyard project if you want to rebuild a boat but have another boat to sail. Wal ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com C

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
Well done, Sander. Sorry if you are disappointed, but it really is the right choice. Best wishes finding a good boat, C&C or otherwise. Cheers Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-27, at 15:03, "Sander van der Moolen" wrote: Thanks everyone for your advice! I have no experience rebui

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Sander van der Moolen
Thanks everyone for your advice! I have no experience rebuilding boats. And there's really no point in taking a boat only to deliver it to a scrapyard. Of course I'm a bit disappointed, I was looking forward to having something special.. C&C's are not common here. But this project is way over my

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself In the current market conditions the yard should pay you to take over the headache. You can buy a slightly neglected but in good condition boat for the same money as you will have to put into this. Yes, you'll have an almost new boat at the end of t

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Leslie Paal
In the current market conditions the yard should pay you to take over the headache.  You can buy a slightly neglected but in good condition boat for the same money as you will have to put into this.  Yes, you'll have an almost new boat at the end of the restoration, but this does not sound a sum

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread sam . c . salter
If you're interested in sailing - run away screaming! If you're more interested in DIY buy it. I know a guy who is 8yrs into a 1yr restoration of a stripped Ericsson 30 hull like yours. he's into it for about $80k and he'll be lucky to get $20 for it. ...and he never gets to go sailing! Buy the bes

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Chuck S
Advice is worth what you pay for it. My gut says walk away. There are so many complete boats for sale right now and "fix'er uppers" litter boatyards everywhere. I helped a guy fix up an O'Day 24 that took him 6 years to splash. He got the boat for free and spent $6000 on Interlux two part pain

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Steve Thomas
I would not offer more than $1000 based on your description, and then only if I really wanted to undertake a project of that magnitude. That is about what I estimate you might get for the lead in the keel, plus the rig, saildrive and other fittings if you scrap the boat. The fibreglass itself mig

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Jim Watts
I second Rich's first recommendation. There are lots of boats around going for peanuts, you don't have to buy a kit boat and spend the next two years rebuilding it and spending far more money than a good boat would have cost. Run away. On 27 April 2013 08:06, Knowles Rich wrote: > that's bow ca

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
that's bow casting. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-27, at 12:04, Knowles Rich wrote: > sure all the major lumps are there. Winches, now casting, Etc. etc. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com C

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
But, on second thought, I'm approaching your question from an old person's view. The mere thought of getting that boat operational from the kit stage it is in makes me tired. However, I guess if you are looking for a project and willing to invest the time and whatever unknown chunk of cash you w

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
My first thought: Run, Sander, run! Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-27, at 11:33, wrote: Hi listers, Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of days ago. Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the boat. It's defi