I would not offer more than $1000 based on your description, and then only if I really wanted to undertake a project of that magnitude. That is about what I estimate you might get for the lead in the keel, plus the rig, saildrive and other fittings if you scrap the boat. The fibreglass itself might be difficult or expensive to get rid of where you live. You can buy one in useable condition around here on the Great Lakes for 5-6 k$ at the right time of year.
One thing is that the Honda / saildrive combo might be a more reliable auxiliary, and easier to fix, than the 2 stroke Vires that most 25s were equipped with. It is almost impossible to find a mechanic around here who really knows how to fix a Vire gone bad. One of our club members with a Vire equipped C&C25 has given up after spending a couple of thousand dollars trying to get it fixed. He went with the outboard solution as the cheapest option. A friend of mine bought a yard - sitter, a Cal 25, for $300 on Ebay. I thought he was nuts, but he didn't have much money and he had lots of time and energy. In the end I have to admit that for him the project worked out ok, and I wound up spending several days helping him out with it. The big advantage with building or restoring a boat yourself is that you know every system, and every strength or weakness by the time you are done and ready to go sailing. It really depends on your particular situation and on what you want. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of san...@vpilot.net Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:33 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself Hi listers, Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of days ago. Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the boat. It's definitely a Mk1. Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested in seeing them. The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you mentioned. The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines. The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it. - Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that); - Full paint job, inside and outside; - Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom; - Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring); - Plumbing (sink, toilet); - All hardware needs to be cleaned; - Assembly of, well, everything; - Sail off into the sunset! The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is negotiable. But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work for a long period, not too far away from home. I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even consider buying it or would you run away screaming? I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even end up on the scrapyard :( I could really use some good advice. Regards, Sander
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