Advice is worth what you pay for it. My gut says walk away. There are so many complete boats for sale right now and "fix'er uppers" litter boatyards everywhere. I helped a guy fix up an O'Day 24 that took him 6 years to splash. He got the boat for free and spent $6000 on Interlux two part paint, a new outboard, and sails, safety gear, electronics, and hardware that was missing. After 6 years, he learned how to use West System Epoxy and paint, but he knew nothing about how to sail or manuever and had some awful crashes learning how to negotiate a dock in river current. He admitted he could have bought the boat complete for half of what he had in it. We didn't count the storage fees he was paying, or the loss of 6 years sailing time.
You should be able to find a boat that has been put away well, but the owner has lost interest. A boat that was cared for, but has been for sale for a couple of years, but is complete, and just needs some cleaning, some caulking and maybe some painting. But a boat that has enough stuff to get you on the water and out sailing. Buying new hardware like fittings or an engine, or a mast for an old boat can mean investing thousands to save a hull worth only hundreds and be a waste of money. Be aware that anything metal trippled in price between 1995 and 2005. The price for anything made for boats increases every year. Electronics lose value quickly, but good hardware installed properly on an older quality boat has full value, and becomes a bargain. If you must make an offer on the 25, I'm sure the owner would give it away to anyone willing to remove it from his yard. Right away you will need to buy stands or make a trailer and find a shed you'll have to rent. $$$ and no sailing. I suggest you look for a more complete boat that will get you on the water sooner. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: san...@vpilot.net To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:33:09 AM Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself Hi listers, Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of days ago. Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the boat. It's definitely a Mk1. Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested in seeing them. The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you mentioned. The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines. The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it. - Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that); - Full paint job, inside and outside; - Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom; - Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring); - Plumbing (sink, toilet); - All hardware needs to be cleaned; - Assembly of, well, everything; - Sail off into the sunset! The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is negotiable. But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work for a long period, not too far away from home. I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even consider buying it or would you run away screaming? I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even end up on the scrapyard :( I could really use some good advice. Regards, Sander _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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