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Milwaukee, WI
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:39 PM
To: Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
Rick, I really like this idea!
JT
Delaney
C&C
Rick, I really like this idea!
JT
Delaney
C&C 38 MK II
Oriental, NC
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From: Dennis C.
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
We used to have fundraiser regattas w
, February 28, 2013 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
As a competitor who is hopefully going to be entered in the event that you
are talking about. I would suggest that you pick a number, 12 or 15(it
doesn't really matter) and go with it. People who have the
#x27;s just cover for the trash talking at the post race party
James
Delaney
C&C 38 MK II
Oriental, NC
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From: Tim Goodyear
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
I
We used to have fundraiser regattas where the boats bought seconds. That was
always fun. To stimulate giving, sponsors donated stuff. Buy a bottle of
Bombay rum, get 21 seconds, etc.
We raced Touche' at a PHRF rating of 333 one race. Cost me a ton of $$$ and we
didn't win but it raised a
I would lend my support to the +15 seconds to their spinnaker rating for
non-spinnaker boats (unless an allowance was already given for asym only).
The PHRFNE standard is +12 seconds, but it is not usually enough on
windward / leeward courses. I'd think +15 would be good for you
considering the d
As a PHRF racer, I realize that assigning a single rating for a boat sailing in
various conditions of wind, waves, etc. is a very poor substitute for a more
complicated and more expensive solution such as IRC, etc. etc.
Adding modifications to this single number to account for sail configuratio
rating than a spin rating, usually a 3 second difference.
Gary Nylander
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From: Rick Brass
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
Just for clarification, the race in questi
Rick, there is no fair way. I am the messenger from the area that has both 10
and 15% adjustments. Neither is perfect, and the deviation from perfect depends
on the wind.
Our Wednesday racers give a 10% adjustment for no spin. Our venue (you've been
here, so you know) is a long, rather narrow r
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Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
Agreed Dwight. I can't envision a way that this would turn out well. Seems
like you need two fleets or a course that has little or no downwind legs.
You could also just say no handicap for non-spin or just not allow any
spinna
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Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
Sounds like your trophy winners will be determined by the math you use.OK if
everyone understands and accepts that.Spinnaker boats and non spinnaker
boats in the same race is about as bad as racing gets IMHO.might as well a
-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
Agreed Dwight. I can't envision a way that this would turn out well.
Seems like you need two fleets or a course that has little or no
downwind legs. You could also just say no handicap for non-spin or just
not allow any spinnakers. I'm thinkin
Agreed Dwight. I can't envision a way that this would turn out well.
Seems like you need two fleets or a course that has little or no downwind
legs. You could also just say no handicap for non-spin or just not allow
any spinnakers. I'm thinking very few, short, downwind legs is the best
answer i
Sounds like your trophy winners will be determined by the math you use.OK if
everyone understands and accepts that.Spinnaker boats and non spinnaker
boats in the same race is about as bad as racing gets IMHO.might as well all
just go sailing and draw numbers for the trophies
Dwight Veinot
C&C
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