Gary:
If a C&C 30-1 goes to a #3 at 20 knts true, my 32 needs to be there as
well with a #3.the 32 is in its comfort zone at about 15, maybe 20
deg angle, whatever sail is upany more than 20 degs, you are not
efficient. If I were not so lazy, or so old, I would do more sail
changes.
When I was in that size of boat, I always liked the Catalina 34-II. I
had a 33-II at the time and loved how it sailed, but envied the
Catalina at anchor.
On 10/8/13, Marek Fluder wrote:
> I am opened for C&C 99 but there are few and far between.
> As for 33-II the admiral would prefer somethin
Chuck,
Your pointing ability is a function of the sheeting angle. My #1 has the best
sheeting angle and therefore points the best. My #2 sheets about two feet
forward on the same genoa track, increasing the sheeting angle. Not good for
pointing. That’s one of the reasons I prefer a reef
I am opened for C&C 99 but there are few and far between.
As for 33-II the admiral would prefer something newer than the 80's, which
I do not oppose :)
Kind regards,
Marek
Sent from my iPad
On 2013-10-08, at 11:33 AM, "Richard N. Bush" wrote:
If you're looking at the 320, why not look at the
Chuck,
When I go from the #1 (150%) to # 2 (135%) boat still points fine as they are
still taking advantage of a well placed inboard track.
My # 3 (110%) however is another story. Boat gets creamed upwind with the #3
when sheeted to the track used for the #1 and #2. It is too far aft by 6-1
I had a chat with him afterwards.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Chuck S wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> Thanks for the videos. As you said before, Very flat sails.
> I still don't remember our boat rounding up, but I do remember not being
> able to release the mainsheet from the jamcleat when it was ful
With high aspect mains and masthead gennies, it's frequently fast to backwind
as much as 50% of the main before making changes to main or headsail.
My 30 isn't quite as bad as my IOR designed SJ 24, but I've carried a 160 and
full main in 15-20kts with 50% backwinded and the boat was fast without
Hi Eric,
Thanks for the videos. As you said before, Very flat sails.
I still don't remember our boat rounding up, but I do remember not being able
to release the mainsheet from the jamcleat when it was fully powered up. A fine
tune ended that problem and allows the trimmer or helmsman to releas
Eric:
You were sailing in 15 - 20 knts >>true<<, with gusts to 25
knts.looks from the video and the camera angle, your headsail was
your #3am I correct? Nice laminate sails, as well!
Quite crew as wellI have never crewed on a boat that quite..is
it because they know the came
Eric,
My crew has often heard me say "Crank harder! You can rest when you're
dead!", "Rain never killed anybody!" and "The beatings will stop when morale
improves."
Once, when pushing a crew to grind faster, I heard back, "Dammit Jim!
I'm a doctor, not a winch grinder." along
Yeah, my crew is soft...
I have only recently been able to get them out of the cockpit onto the rail.
Baby steps...
Eric
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Edd Schillay wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Great video!
>
> If I may offer a suggestion -- get your crew to get their heads and the
> top part of thei
Eric,
Great video!
If I may offer a suggestion -- get your crew to get their heads and the
top part of their bodies between the top and second lifeline when going up
wind. That extra outboard weight may make a difference.
All the best,
Edd
Chuck,
Here is some video from a regatta a couple weeks ago. It was blowing 15-20
with gusts to 25. We were light on crew so we raced non-spinnaker.
If you watch during the upwind leg, you will see when a puff hits and the
main trimmer doesn't ease fast enough, the boat will heel, then try to go
Always thought a smaller headsail will point higher than a big one?
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
- Original Message -
From: "David Risch"
To: "CNC CNC"
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:54:15 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34
Rob Ball told me to not let the 40
Thanks Eric,
I'd love to keep the boat that flat, but have found it hard when powered up to
stay under 25 degrees without a lot of rail meat.
I'm saving $$ for newer flatter sails. Can you expand on the rounding up issue?
I haven't run into that yet.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic C
>From my experience...
Here are the apparent wind ranges for my head sails--discussed and set with
sail-maker to attempt at minimize abuse the sails. Whether or not I change
down earlier depends on other things like how much crew I can put on the
rail, flat vs. chop etc. 34/36 likes to be flat so
If I uttered anything that remotely sounded like "sell" I would be sleeping on
it!!
Harry
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> On Oct 8, 2013, at 15:25, Andrew Burton wrote:
>
> Now that she's perfect, it would be a pity not to enjoy her for a few years!
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
>
>> On Tue,
My 35 MKII works best when close hauled if the first third of the mainsail
is luffing, so I mostly always have the first third of the main from the
mast back luffing, that is faster and less heel on Alianna, for good upwind
speed heel angle 15 to 25 degrees is good...the main works best upwind with
Andy
Honey is a 1975 C&C TM hull # 69, she is currently listed for USD
60,000.00.
She has: in 2013 a brand new Edson steering system, a brand new Furno 1835
Color radar, deck & non-skid paint, all 3 Fuller Brush (2 small & 1 large)
port lights replaced, all 12 Barient s/s winches rebuilt
Now that she's perfect, it would be a pity not to enjoy her for a few years!
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Harry Hallgring wrote:
> I know of a nice C&C Northeast 39 that's always for sale:)
>
> Harry
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6Beta
>
> On Oct 8, 2013, at 15:04, Richard Da
I know of a nice C&C Northeast 39 that's always for sale:)
Harry
Sent from my iPhone 6Beta
> On Oct 8, 2013, at 15:04, Richard Davis wrote:
>
> Have you thought about a bigger C&C !
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:07 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
>>
>> Have you thought about a Jeanneau?
>>
>>
What are you asking, Jack? One of my pals is looking to move up from his
C&C 36. He's thinking about a 40, but should probably consider the 39, too.
Andy
Peregrine
C&C 40
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:19 PM, wrote:
> **
> If you want a larger C&C you can always buy my 1974 39 TM
>
> Jack Fitzgerald
If you want a larger C&C you can always buy my 1974 39 TM
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
US12788
In a message dated 10/8/2013 3:05:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rdavis2...@me.com writes:
Have you thought about a bigger C&C !
On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:07 AM, _djhaughey@juno.com_
(mailto:djhaug.
Have you thought about a bigger C&C !
On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:07 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
> Have you thought about a Jeanneau?
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Marek Fluder
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking to upsize. (previously Volvo Diese
If your instruments won't give you VMG relative to the wind, set a waypoint in
your GPS 20 miles dead upwind of the windward mark. You can then use the GPS
VMG (which is actually WCV or waypoint closure velocity) to approximate wind
based VMG.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>__
012 I had not raced in 19 years but did a lot of level, phrf and
> long
>> distance racing in my 20s and 30s.
>>
>> Only problem is just like back then its eating up whole weekends and there
>> are other priorities these days . . .
>> The good news is my wife is enjoyin
<< If anyone is interested, I can provide more details and photos when I get
back.>>
Yes, I would be interested.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39 animated_favicon1
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dre...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:05 PM
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>
>
>Steve Hood
>S/V Diamond Girl
>C&C 34
>Lions Head ON
>
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I move the traveler to weather as well. The lowest batten should be
parallel to the centerline of the boat. If you don't have telltales on the
leach of the main you should add them at each batten pocket. When the main
is trimmed correctly, they will all stream straight back.
Cunningham and outha
The traveler on my 29-2 is almost always above centerline when going to
weather. Boom on centerline as mentioned by others.
John McLaughlin
"FALCON"
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Original message
From: Tim Goodyear
Date: 10/08/2013 9:54 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.
I can only speak to reputation. I have not sailed on one. They seem to be
well regarded as a nice boat for the money and they seem to hold their value
well. They are on my short list for my next upsize...LOL in like 10 years!
I'm sure there are some peeps here that have actually sailed on on
If you're looking at the 320, why not look at the C&C 99? or a nice 33-II ?
Richard
1987 33-II, Ohio River, Mile 584
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
502-584-7255
-Original Message-
From: Marek Fluder
To: cnc-list
Sent: T
Not that many of my desired size/vintage on Yacht World in North America.
How do they sail?
Marek
On 10/8/13, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
> Have you thought about a Jeanneau?
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Marek Fluder
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Loo
With genny cars back and hard trimmed to weather you will have a bubble in the
main.
John McLaughlin
"FALCON"
Sent from my Galaxy S®III
Original message
From: Bill Bina
Date: 10/08/2013 9:45 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How to limit b
Rob Ball told me to not let the 40 get beyond 22 degrees of heel.
That plus I will not let the rudder go beyond 5 degrees of angle.
Off the wind less heel is easier on all aboard and faster. Racing uphill I
push the upper limit of that number by keeping the biggest headsail for
pointing.
Steve,
Are you using GPS VMG? Just make sure you understand the difference between
GPS VMG and wind relative VMG. They are not the same.
If you are using GPS VMG to measure your upwind velocity it will be very
inaccurate up the course. As you approach the laylines, GPS VMG will tend to
z
No controversy. He was overpowered. 18 to 20 true is 24 to 26 apparent. A
big genoa and no reef is going to set the boat on its side, even with a
shoe!
I have the stiffest C&C, a 30-1. I drop to the number 2 (about 140) before
15 true, then reef. Then drop to the number 3 at about 20 true (I o
Steve:
I am going to throw one at the list that should raise some controversy.
There was a C&C 34 at our clubthe owner was a coastal cruiser, felt
the boat was a little tender for that purpose so he had a 'shoe added to
the keel' .
We were both in Halifax harborabout 18 to 20 knts t
Thanks, this is info I have available, just need to look at it. As someone
who always had their head out of the boat because that's where data came
from, I`m just figuring out what to watch on the chart plotter. I have the
marks waypointed and I set the new BTW course (bearing to waypoint) for the
Colin,
I would appreciate that.
Thanks,
Mike Fair
413.587.6535
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List WP30 wp300x
I might. I had a coup
I repowered with a Volvo d 1-30 and have been very pleased. It is a Perkins
block.
The few parts I have needed have been expensive but not much more than I
experienced with my old Universal. I bought a starter for the Universal before
I realized I could rebuild it. It cost $600.
Any Volvo in
I don't know why you think you are doing something wrong, unless it is just
because it is not pretty. My experience, and the
advice I've been given, is that there is always some backwinding of the main in
the sweet spot if you using a genoa and working to
weather. I am sure that the exact degree
David, you want the boom on centerline, not the traveler car for an initial
setting and adjust the sheet / traveler for twist to get the back of the
top telltale parallel with the boom (as Andrew said). You can maybe get
the boom above centerline in medium air / flat water if it doesn't make you
s
David,A "bubble" in the main isn't a problem. Boat might actually be faster with a bit of bubble. Use the cunningham to pull the max draft forward. Try to limit it to the forward third of the main. If you can't, chat with your sailmaker. :)Keep the boom on centerline and the top batten twisted
Some instrument systems will give you VMG to windward via the wind
direction/speed and boat heading/speed from the knotmeter. For a true W-L
course, VMG can then be used both upwind and down. IMHO this parameter is more
important than any other 'velocity'. Of course one must still keep their he
I believe the term you are looking for is "speed bubble" :-)
Bill Bina
On 10/8/2013 9:11 AM, David Knecht wrote:
The discussion of C&C 34 in heavy air reminded me of a problem I had
on my 34 and similar issue on my 34+. To me that means I am probably
doing something wrong with sail trim. I f
I sheet the boom right on centerline or even a little above. I try to have
the top batten parallel with the boom. Having the main fairly flat with the
maximum draft about 40% aft helps, too. If the main is too full, you will
get more backwind. If the genoa is old and the draft has moved back to the
The discussion of C&C 34 in heavy air reminded me of a problem I had on my 34 and similar issue on my 34+. To me that means I am probably doing something wrong with sail trim. I find that my mainsail is almost always backwinded by the genoa. If I leave the traveller on the midline and sheet in t
Steve
Different boat but similar problem when wind gets up. On Nut Case we
added a second forward jib track so that we could sheet a flatter
heavier jib more outboard when wind gets higher. Talking a #3 and also
a 27 .. J not C&C - sorry
Mike
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Ok, I get it, the outhauler will work - thanks!
I was thinking snatchblock to the toerail because that's how we sheeted the
headsail on the old 24.
Thanks for all posts, and reminders about leeway.
We do look at COG, SOG etc. during the race, VMG not so much but will start
to watch it closer to fi
Have you thought about a Jeanneau?
-- Original Message --
From: Marek Fluder
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking to upsize. (previously Volvo Diesel - opinions?)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:56:53 -0400
Thank you all guys for sharing your opinions.They are ap
This is one option:
http://tinytach.com/
Cheers,
Aaron R.
1979 30-MK1
Annapolis, MD
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:59 AM, "Al Serrato" wrote:
>
> The tach on my 1981 34 (with a 3GM yanmar diesel) stopped working shortly
> after I boat the boat last year. It was intermittent for a while and then
>
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