Thanks Eric,
I'd love to keep the boat that flat, but have found it hard when powered up to
stay under 25 degrees without a lot of rail meat.
I'm saving $$ for newer flatter sails. Can you expand on the rounding up issue?
I haven't run into that yet.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Baumes" <eric.bau...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:52:34 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34
>From my experience...
Here are the apparent wind ranges for my head sails--discussed and set with
sail-maker to attempt at minimize abuse the sails. Whether or not I change down
earlier depends on other things like how much crew I can put on the rail, flat
vs. chop etc. 34/36 likes to be flat so 15 deg okay getting to 20--bad.
Sail Lower Upper
#1 Light 0 12
#1 GP 5 17
#2 15 22
#3 18 25
The #3 rating is very conservative, and we have definitely carried it in 20+
true upwind but more than that and you are really just holding on.
I have a storm jib but have never used it.
With the main, we are still working out flattening and dropping the traveler
below center-line or twisting off. I can get my main really, really flat.
And generally we don't reef until we put up the #3--unless we are not in a
position to change head sails on a beat and have to ride it out. We will then
change down on the downwind leg.
In thing above 10kts the main trimmer is constantly playing the traveller in
puffs to keep the boat up right. if you can ease the before the puff you can
trim into it and gain speed. Too late and the boat rounds up and you lose alot.
My $0.02, which is probably worth substantially less than that.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM, David Risch < davidrisc...@msn.com > wrote:
Rob Ball told me to not let the 40 get beyond 22 degrees of heel.
That plus I will not let the rudder go beyond 5 degrees of angle.
Off the wind less heel is easier on all aboard and faster. Racing uphill I push
the upper limit of that number by keeping the biggest headsail for pointing.
All sail configs follow suit.
I doubt that figure is universal but it may help.
David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:28:45 -0300
> From: robertabb...@eastlink.ca
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: oldste...@sympatico.ca
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 34
>
> Steve:
>
> I am going to throw one at the list that should raise some controversy.
> There was a C&C 34 at our club....the owner was a coastal cruiser, felt
> the boat was a little tender for that purpose so he had a 'shoe added to
> the keel' .
>
> We were both in Halifax harbor....about 18 to 20 knts true and 3'
> seas.....I only had my 110% Sobstad up and he had a larger headsail (I
> count not be sure if it was a 135% or 150%) and his main sail.
>
> The wind was building.....he was coming in, I was going out. When we
> passed each other, he turned around to come back with me upwind.
> .....his boat was overpowered......flogging his main.....rounding up in
> the gusts.
>
> I constantly pulled away from him.....he hung in for about 20 minutes
> and then gave up.
>
> I can't speak for the 34 but my boat can not carry a 150% (plus a main)
> in 20 knts true.
>
> Let the fun begin.
>
> Bob Abbott\
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
>
>
> On 2013/10/07 10:23 PM, OldSteveH wrote:
> > That's a great list Dennis. I do most of those things but forgot about
> > moving the genoa sheet aft, that's a good one.
> > The other thing I do which is not on your list is to feather off the main
> > and carry some luff when we're overpowered, re-trimming as opportunity
> > allows. From now on I will ease the genoa car back first.
> >
> > Per other comment about heel the 34 seems to be comfortable carrying 20
> > degrees of heel and still point and keep up her speed. Guestimating the
> > performance at 25 to be similar to 15, I have generally decided to reef
> > when
> > I am constantly over 25 and there are no more sail trim adjustments
> > available.
> >
> > Last Sat we were able to keep the #1 up in 20 knots true (25-26 apparent).
> > I'm certain we could not have placed as well without it. BTW only 4 aboard,
> > not much railmeat to help out!
> >
> > Dennis, I have an inboard track and also a coach roof track for the #3.
> > I'm not seeing what advantage leading the #1 from the toerail will give
> > except to limit how close the sail can be sheeted, but also taking away my
> > ability to adjust the car position.
> >
> > Steve Hood
> > S/V Diamond Girl
> > C&C 34
> > Lions Head ON
> >
>
>
>
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