Re: Stus-List Going looking

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Brass
Mark; >From earlier discussions on the various C&C lists over the years, it seems that C&C built a lot of rudders with stainless rudder shafts and mild steel webs - and that a lot of these rudders had weep holes in them so they could dry out over the winter. It looks like the two spots might be

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread randy
Steve, seems to me this is your first season with the boat? Never ass-u-me, but if we allow the PO probably used it as a sail boat set up as is, the most common problem I've found is halyard tension. Probably because of no restrainer, it's more important, but there seems to be a sweet spot betwee

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Chuck S
Hi Dennis, The restrainer may be in my future. Right now I have a pemanent pendant at the head of my sail that positions the furler swivel correctly. Do you recommend any certain brand, or size? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "Dennis C."

Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Brass
The talk about Ultrafurl and Harken furlers on the list reminded me of something I'd been asked to do: A friend of mine had a Catalina 38 with an old Hood furler for which parts were no longer available. He bought himself a Harken furler (model unknown) with 50+ feet of luff extrusion to install o

Re: Stus-List Going looking

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Brass
Back about 12 years ago I was shopping for a bigger boat to replace my 25, and decided that the 33-1 was probably the best looking sailboat ever made - with the possible exception of the 62/63/65 foot Swan. Then again that was before I saw my 38. I can see the resemblance though, and Rob Ball did

Re: Stus-List Going looking

2013-07-15 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
Yes, I had noticed that rusty spot on the rudder. I've never had to deal with something like that in the past - anyone have ideas on cost? I'm assuming rust means the inner frame will be shot and it is not "fixable". Never seem rails attached like tha

Re: Stus-List Rudder post sqeak

2013-07-15 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
On my 30-1 we found the cups and associated grease exit hole so badly cruded up that we had to take out the cup and the fitting which was screwed into the fiberglass and clean it up. After that, we filled the cup and rotated a bit to get the grease out the exit and replaced into the rudder tube.

Re: Stus-List Going looking

2013-07-15 Thread sbrown
Hey Mark, I concur with Grahams comments and can attest to not encountering any issues with a boat drawing 6’5” in the local waters. Scott Brown Breezin’ C&C 35- III From: Graham Collins Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Going looking

Re: Stus-List Going looking

2013-07-15 Thread Graham Collins
Hi Mark Budget for a new rudder - the weeping out the sides of it are a clear sign. A good survey would find that - heck, a bad survey better find that. Also the wiring looks a bit amateur in the shot from inside looking aft. What is with the rails attached to the cockpit locker lids? It a

Re: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time

2013-07-15 Thread Jake Brodersen
Allan, You have a good recollection of the last 30-2. It was totaled after falling over on the hard in Annapolis. Not sure what happened to it after that. Maybe somebody fixed it up. It was a great boat. Greg is still racing, but on an Elliott 770 now. He helped me a lot when I got

Re: Stus-List Going looking

2013-07-15 Thread Bob Moriarty
I'd take a closer look at what's coming out of the rudder in pic #9. I'm no expert. Looks like rust. I'm curious what others think. Also, the listing states/implies that the hull is cored. "Regular" 33-1's have solid hulls, which might be preferable for a boat of this vintage. Again, I'm no expert.

Stus-List Going looking

2013-07-15 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
I'm setting up an appointment to go look at a C&C 33 tomorrow.  A few of the boats I've been watching have sold or have dropped off the market (presumably not getting near the asking prices). This C&C is local - Broker says it "needs an interior refresh" but is

Stus-List Ultra furl and Harken Mk IV

2013-07-15 Thread blhickson
>>> energy required to turn it is quite high, I have to go forward and >>> manually turn the drum to furl or unfurl the sail. How can I >>> troubleshoot this? I'm nervous that this will require some forestay >>> action but I'm hoping not. >>> Accor

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Dennis C.
Sam, A properly sized furling line shouldn't overfill the drum.  The furling line should exit the drum at 90 degrees to the forestay.  Too high and it will fill the top of the drum; too low and it will fill the bottom of the drum. Dennis C. > > From: "sam.c.

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread sam . c . salter
To stop furling lines binding up in the drum, de core the furling line that wraps around the drum. Leave the core in at the end of the line where you handle it. This will reduce the bulk on the drum by half. 

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Dennis C.
One of the most common problems is the second issue listed below.  I think Harken recommends a minimum divergence angle between forestay and halyard of 7 degrees.  If you have a Harken furler, please consider a halyard restrainer to create that divergence.  My buddy and I have installed several

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Dennis C.
Not for my boat.   Touche' has a Harken Mk III.  Love it. Nope, this is on a CS33.  My buddy and I install Harken furlers.  I'm the mast monkey. If the old furlers are not in too bad condition, I usually them for a couple hundred $$ on eBay.  Unfortunately, I tried to disassemble this Seafurl

Re: Stus-List Best C&C's of all time

2013-07-15 Thread Allan Rheaume
Jim, I've had a 30-2 for 14 years now, what I do know about them: first 4 built were 1987 models, they had plexiglass sliding doors for the galley storage and the panel behind the companionway steps was hinged opening to the aft cabin. The bulk of the boats were 1988 models. Some 1989 models had

Re: Stus-List Rudder post sqeak

2013-07-15 Thread Curtis
What grease should be used?? On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Jim Reinardy wrote: > Blair, > > There is an access panel in the ceiling of the very back of the aft berth. > Take those screws out and remove the panel. Mine also has an drain pan > above that. Once that is gone, you have a pret

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Bill Bina
Some troubleshooting tips from a Harken manual that may apply to others Sail will not furl or is difficult to furl. Jib halyard is wrapping around headstay because angle between mast and and halyard is too shallow See installation instructions regarding optimal halyard angle. It may be necessary

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Martin DeYoung
> We've also had experience where there was not enough backstay tension > causing the foil to sag giving the impression of 'stop, turn, stop' as you > fight the curve. With Calypso's Harken system both halyard and backstay tension have to be "tight" to avoid excessive resistance or halyard wrap.

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread HONEYSAIL
Swt. In a message dated 7/15/2013 12:20:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, capt...@yahoo.com writes: Coincidence. I'm dropping an old Hood Seafoil 2536 today. Close cousin of an Ultrafurl. Replacing it with a Harken Mk IV Dennis C Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:24 AM, "

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Dennis C.
Coincidence. I'm dropping an old Hood Seafoil 2536 today. Close cousin of an Ultrafurl. Replacing it with a Harken Mk IV Dennis C Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:24 AM, "Prime Interest" wrote: > We've also had experience where there was not enough backstay tension > causing the

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Prime Interest
We've also had experience where there was not enough backstay tension causing the foil to sag giving the impression of 'stop, turn, stop' as you fight the curve. Ed Prime Interest 1982 C&C 38 Landfall Toronto, Canada -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread HONEYSAIL
Halyard wrapping is the most likely culprit In a message dated 7/15/2013 9:22:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bushma...@aol.com writes: Steven that sounds like a halyard may be catching the furler at the top of the mast, and getting wrapped up in the sail...; Richard 1987 33-II; Ohio Ri

Re: Stus-List Questions I've been dying to ask Rob Ball - Mega

2013-07-15 Thread Della Barba, Joe
OTOH I have no interest at all in being able to get my boat on a trailer. I don't own a vehicle that could possibly tow it and have no plans to ever get one. AFAIK my boat has never ever moved anyplace on a trailer in 40 years. I think the overlap between people who want a trailerable sport boat

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Richard N. Bush
Steven that sounds like a halyard may be catching the furler at the top of the mast, and getting wrapped up in the sail...; Richard 1987 33-II; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Mess

Re: Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Bill Bina
It could be as simple as too much tension on the forestay. If you try and furl with your backstay cranked tight, that can make any furler bind. Bill Bina On 7/15/2013 9:08 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: Hi All. It seems the drum on my ultrafurl is sticking. I know that other C&Cs used this furlin

Stus-List Ultrafurl - sticking

2013-07-15 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Hi All. It seems the drum on my ultrafurl is sticking. I know that other C&Cs used this furling gear so I was hoping for some feedback from other ultrafurl owners. I dropped the swivel down and it is fine so I'm blaming the drum. It needs a lot of coaxing to turn and it will turn, then come to a s

Re: Stus-List Questions I've been dying to ask Rob Ball - Mega

2013-07-15 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Edd I would love to comment on this one. Over the past year I look at the interior of my 27. No not C&C but J. Is 27.5 LOA, 8.5 beam, 3800 disp and has a functional interior with long comfortable bunks but ridiculously cramped head and sitting not even stooping headroom. I go from there to th

Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Overhead Panels - Teak and alternatives

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Brass
Based on my experience with cabinetmaking and wood working, and with a lot of boat projects over the years, here are some comments and suggestions about obtaining teak and alternative hardwoods for your boat. You probably do not want to try to source “Door Skins” for a project on your boat. The