Re: Stus-List 35 mk-3 for sale ....

2013-01-17 Thread Tim Goodyear
Interior looks in reasonable shape - and new hatches, but old sails and 5'11" keel would be *odd* for this boat. $39k would be top of range, but not unheard of for a well sorted boat five years ago. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Custom

Re: Stus-List What else, the C&C smile and keel-bolt corrosion...

2013-01-17 Thread Jake Brodersen
Dave, I had no noticeable corrosion on my keel bolts after over twenty years in salt water. The forward keel bolt was leaking and had a lot of stagnant water trapped (black, smelly stuff). All the bolts looked great. I did replace the washers under the keel bolts. The original spacers had c

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread ELevert
Using Dennis' example, I must have been the atypical owner following Katrina. Proceeds from my over insured '71 C&C 27 were used to upgrade to a '71 C&C 30. Diesel, wheel, and solid deck core were a definite upgrade which I could not have afforded otherwise. Katrina damage to the fleet in the

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread Neil Ramsey
It may be sold. I contacted the seller and he said he would send photos. So far no photos and he hasn't responded to my follow up emails. Neil Ramsey LF38 wannabe On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Joel Aronson wrote: > There is a LF 38 on Cruiser's Forum: > http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread Joel Aronson
There is a LF 38 on Cruiser's Forum: http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f64/1979-38-c-and-c-landfall-96066.html On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jack Brennan wrote: > When I kept my C&C 25 on a mooring in Key Biscayne, the joke around the > marina was that as a hurricane approached, some ow

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay, Now used boat market

2013-01-17 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
yea, right up until the next boom time when every body and their cousin goes out and buys a 30' sundancer as their first boat! those were some scary times back in 2003ish. I remember pulling into north port after crossing long island sound in a 18 foot checkmate. There was absolutely no on

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay, Now used boat market

2013-01-17 Thread Martin DeYoung
Another factor in the used boat market is the aging demographics of sailing and boating in general. How many 30 somethings are looking to / can afford to buy a used boat and have time or interest in using it? My discussions with people in there late 20s and 30s indicate they are not interested

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread Jack Brennan
When I kept my C&C 25 on a mooring in Key Biscayne, the joke around the marina was that as a hurricane approached, some owners would be adding lines while other loosened theirs, hoping for an insurance settlement. I concur with the chorus about how expensive it is to fix up a neglected sailboat

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread Dennis C.
Seller's market? Perhaps. After Katrina I didn't see a strong market. Many owners took the insurance money and ran or bought smaller boats. Typical example: 41 footer destroyed; replaced with J22. Maybe Ed Levert can share more insight from the New Orleans side of the lake. Dennis C. Touc

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
I paid like 4x what I paid for the boat before I even got to splash!! DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson To: Frank , "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:28:25 -0500 Frank

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread HONEYSAIL
I expect that 80% or more are happy to sell the boats to the insurance companies. Unless this economy turns around rapidly I suspect that the current glut of used and new boats for sale will remain. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY C&C 39TM In a message dated 1/17/2013 1:48:18 P.M. Eastern Standard

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread Joel Aronson
Sandy will certainly have an impact from Boston to Annapolis, but you have to wonder how many boat owners will actually buy another boat when 80% of them hardly ever leave the dock. BoatUS reported that 65,000 boats were damaged or destroyed, but I have not seen a breakdown. If 10% were destroyed

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
You Know, I just read an article that talked about the boat market over this next year. It said that the market would favor sellers in that, Hurricane sandy destroyed so many boats, the market would be flooded with buyers. Couple that with the boat companies cutting production over the last se

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread Joel Aronson
Frank, I spent as much on upgrades as I did on my boat in the first 10 months! I paid to have some work done that I might have been able to tackle. but it was worth it to have everything done in time for launch. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Frank wrote: > I agree wi

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread Frank
I agree with Joe. My 1979 LF38 was headed for the dumpster when I rescued it. Good price but every system in the boat, and some that weren't, needed repair/fixed/replaced. Since I am pretty fair with glass good at diesel engines, and a past electronics technician, I figured I could fix eve

Re: Stus-List What else, the C&C smile and keel-bolt corrosion...

2013-01-17 Thread Dave Godwin
Joe, Thanks. I have the same issue in the bilge and will do as you did. However, I have rust seeping from the crack in the hull/keel joint forward. Not good. In my usual sunny, optimistic way I'm expecting to see something like that found in the second photo in the link: http://coxengineering.

Re: Stus-List What else, the C&C smile and keel-bolt corrosion...

2013-01-17 Thread Della Barba, Joe
The washer plates under the nuts were badly corroded on my boat. I replaced them with stainless steel ones and have had no more issues. The bolts themselves looked fine, but I am not sure how easy it is to tell visually. Joe Della Barba C&C 35 MK I Coquina 1973-2013 40 years old! -Original

Stus-List What else, the C&C smile and keel-bolt corrosion...

2013-01-17 Thread Dave Godwin
So, I’ve been reading the threads on purchasing the older LF38 needing work versus the cost of buying one in great shape and the other threads about buying a 35-3 with the infamous C&C smile and all the while wondering about what I may find this summer when I pull my boat and inspect the keel.

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread Della Barba, Joe
IMHO a LF38 is the wrong boat for a budget refurb operation. The hull is cored along with the deck, the rigging is rod, and the engine is a V-drive unit. A new engine, rod rigging, and sails are going to be very expensive. If the boat has really been let go, you might have hull issues to deal wit

Re: Stus-List 35 mk-3 for sale ....

2013-01-17 Thread Joel Aronson
Custom keel, old sails, old electronics, custom dinette table? Top dollar. Joel 35/3 The Office On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Prime Interest wrote: > I got notification of a new listing this morning for a 1984 35-3 … no > personal knowledge of the boat. > > ** ** > > http://www.boats.co

Re: Stus-List 35 mk-3 for sale ....

2013-01-17 Thread Prime Interest
I got notification of a new listing this morning for a 1984 35-3 . no personal knowledge of the boat. http://www.boats.com/boat-details/C%26c-35-3/141655861 ed From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Saur Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:37 AM

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread jtsails
I had much the same experience and result as Danny when I bought my boat last year. I looked at quite a few LF38's but don't think this was on of them. Every one of them that I looked at had enough problems that I didn't even consider making any offers. The boat that I did eventually buy was ve

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
All I know, is that when I was boat shopping. Everyine said great things about their boats and most of them turned out to be junk. Especially when trying to buy on a budget. Stay away if you can't feasably visit the boat. The only boat I had surveyed, I bought. ...and it still needed ever

Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay

2013-01-17 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Oh...I must have looked at 30 boats our more T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network - Reply message - From: "Neil Ramsey" To: Subject: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay Date: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 2:03 am I'm trying to buy a LF38 at a budget price.  This ad makes lots of claims but