Sandy will certainly have an impact from Boston to Annapolis, but you have
to wonder how many boat owners will actually buy another boat when 80% of
them hardly ever leave the dock.

BoatUS reported that 65,000 boats were damaged or destroyed, but I have not
seen a breakdown.  If 10% were destroyed, that's 6,500 boats.  How many
were power?  You are probably looking at no more than a couple thousand
unexpected buyers.

Is there an equivalent to Carfax for boats?

Joel
35/3
Annapolis


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:29 PM, djhaug...@juno.com <djhaug...@juno.com>wrote:

> You Know, I just read an article that talked about the boat market over
> this next year.  It said that the market would favor sellers in that,
> Hurricane sandy destroyed so many boats, the market would be flooded with
> buyers.  Couple that with the boat companies cutting production over the
> last several years and the used boat market would be set to heat up and
> raise prices on used boats.  It may not be the best time to be in the
> market.  However, if you were thinking of selling, it might be a good time
> to move ahead with that.  This spring should prove to be interesting.
>
> Danny
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Frank" <n...@comcast.net>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:22:31 -0800
>
> I agree with Joe.
>
> My 1979 LF38 was headed for the dumpster when I rescued it.  Good price
> but every system in the boat, and some that weren't, needed
> repair/fixed/replaced.  Since I am pretty fair with glass  good at diesel
> engines, and a past electronics technician, I figured I could fix
> everything on the boat and be ahead in the end.  After spending as much
> money on stuff to fix the boat as I spent buying the boat to date (10
> years) I still have several (expensive) things to do to it.    In fact, I
> am finding that I am now refurbishing parts of the boat that I repaired 10
> years ago.  I probably have averaged 30 hours a month working on the boat
> over the past 10 years.  Yes, I am retired.
>
> I was told that I was making a mistake buying a boat that needed this much
> work but of course, I knew better than all of them.
>
> Frank Noragon
> C&C LF38 S/N: 001
> Rose City Yacht Club
> Portland, OR
>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:56 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay
>
>
> IMHO a LF38 is the wrong boat for a budget refurb operation.
>
> The hull is cored along with the deck, the rigging is rod, and the engine
> is a V-drive unit.
>
> A new engine, rod rigging, and sails are going to be very expensive. If
> the boat has really been let go, you might have hull issues to deal with
> too.
>
> In today’s market a really nice one would likely be a better deal than a
> FREE boat that needed sails, rigging, engine, and interior.
>
>
>
> The one I looked at last year in Annapolis for $45K had a fuel leak, deck
> leaks, a moldy cabin, and the cabin windows had leaked to the point water
> in the core of the cabin side had frozen over the winter and split the
> fiberglass. This boat was advertised as a “great boat” too! WTF! I figured
> it was 50-80K away from being a great boat, so free might have been a
> better price to start off with. Also found the broker had never been on the
> boat.
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina.
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *
> jtsails
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:25 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay
>
>
>
> I had much the same experience and result as Danny when I bought my boat
> last year. I looked at quite a few LF38's  but don't think this was on of
> them. Every one of them that I looked at had enough problems that I didn't
> even consider making any offers. The boat that I did eventually buy was
> very barebones but in incredibly good shape. I'm slowly adding/replacing
> gear to get it equipped the way I want it to be.
>
> James
>
> Delaney 1976 38 mk11
>
> Oriental, NC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* djhaug...@juno.com
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:29 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay
>
>
>
> All I know, is that when I was boat shopping.  Everyine said great things
> about their boats and most of them turned out to be junk.  Especially when
> trying to buy on a budget.
>
> Stay away if you can't feasably visit the boat.  The only boat I had
> surveyed, I bought.  ...and it still needed everything, including a new
> engine.  I got it on the cheap but ended up investing up to, and maybe
> beyond, market value.  Just now I know how old everything is and it was all
> new.
>
> It took me nearly 2 years to find a boat.  However,  I had a boat so
> wasn't desperate to find one and was very cautious.
>
> Good hunting,
> Danny
>
> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Neil Ramsey" <ndram...@gmail.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List 1979 LF 38 on eBay
> Date: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 2:03 am
>
>
> I'm trying to buy a LF38 at a budget price.  This ad makes lots of claims
> but no real photos and no contact info.
>
> Makes it hard when your on the left coast.
>
>
>
> Neil Ramsey
>
> LF38 wannabe
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:
>
> The arse is out of her! Kinda devalues the entire breed.
>
> Rich Knowles
>
> Indigo. LF38
>
> Halifax
>
>
> On 2013-01-17, at 0:42, "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> eBay item 251215004259  start bid $18,500 with a reserve.
>
>
>
> <
> http://cgi..ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-C-C-Landfall38-/251215004259?pt=Sailboats&hash=item3a7d94c263#ht_500wt_975
> >
>
>
>
> There's a 29 and a 33 out there also.
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville. LA
>
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